First Ever Crime and Punishment Story Event - Official Support Thread

[ElectricBlue]

Question, co-authoring doesn't work here, right? I mean, you can't have the stories in both writers' lists?

Hmmm, I realise I misunderstood your question. I thought you meant can you have one story in two Story Anthology lists - no wonder poor old KeithD had a conniption.

Long answer short, yes, you can have the story in two author lists, having done it several times myself.

My collabs and I have done it by deciding which author will run the complete story, the "second" author then has a short intro (say the first 500 - 1000 words), with a link at the end to the complete story in the "first" author's listing.

The submissions need to be coordinated with Laurel, who will do the joining up links.

See this intro, for an example: Transgendence, a collaboration with StickyGirl.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Hmmm, I realise I misunderstood your question. I thought you meant can you have one story in two Story Anthology lists - no wonder poor old KeithD had a conniption.

Long answer short, yes, you can have the story in two author lists, having done it several times myself.

My collabs and I have done it by deciding which author will run the complete story, the "second" author then has a short intro (say the first 500 - 1000 words), with a link at the end to the complete story in the "first" author's listing.

The submissions need to be coordinated with Laurel, who will do the joining up links.

See this intro, for an example: Transgendence, a collaboration with StickyGirl.

I told her weren't doing a coauthored story for the event. We can do one that isn't in an event, has several chapters and links from one writer's list for the start, and other authors for the rest but not in an event or contest. She won't be on again until after Sabbath tomorrow at 6:00. Maybe not back till Sunday.

 

[Rustyoznail]

Hmm... I couldn't come up with a Spilanne type story, but this opens up many more possibilities. Lee Child's Reacher was way more randy in the recent tv series than he was in the books. There's options down that road.

 

[SimonDoom]

It sounds like a good idea, but one that inevitably will cramp the Spillane event. This one is broader and with more possibilities.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Hmm... I couldn't come up with a Spilanne type story, but this opens up many more possibilities. Lee Child's Reacher was way more randy in the recent tv series than he was in the books. There's options down that road.

I'm doing my best to get another Mickey Spillane tribute done for this year's anthology - I need to give Cap'n Simmons another cameo, he did well in my first story.

This Crime and Punishment theme's not really doing it for me right now - my eroticism tends towards the consensual and non-dramatic, neither of which quite fit. But never say never.

 

[PennameWombat]

Hmm... I couldn't come up with a Spilanne type story, but this opens up many more possibilities. Lee Child's Reacher was way more randy in the recent tv series than he was in the books. There's options down that road.

I’ve paid little attention to the Mickey Spillane event because it’s not anything that’s ever interested me sufficiently to read it in enough detail to be able to mimic it.

But I have a WIP that fits this broader theme. I’d considered ‘force fitting’ it into the Valentine’s Day contest… but it‘s a bit out there to mesh easily.

 

[Lifestyle66]

From the OP: "We all enjoy a good heist story, a murder mystery, a detective novel, a courtroom drama, police procedural, or even a prison romance. Throw in a healthy dose of eroticism and you have the First Ever Literotica Author's Crime and Punishment Story Event."

Nothing in this says it must be a detective story, like the Spillane challenge. This could include stories of the girl being pulled over by a cop for speeding, and how she gets out of a ticket. Or it might be a couple caught in the act by a park ranger or parking lot building security, and how they appease the law enforcer.

 

[lovecraft68]

Hmm... I couldn't come up with a Spilanne type story, but this opens up many more possibilities. Lee Child's Reacher was way more randy in the recent tv series than he was in the books. There's options down that road.

That series was excellent shows you just how bad the Cruise movies-and casting-really were.
They did spice it up a bit to help with the overall appeal, but it wasn't over the top to where it took away from anything else.
The fight scenes were amazing, and I'm a fight scene snob.

 

[lovecraft68]

Question, co-authoring doesn't work here, right? I mean, you can't have the stories in both writers' lists?

I ran a tag team challenge several years ago where participating author's names were drawn by someone not involved in the contest and paired up to write a story with the theme of team work. The stories were initially published under the name "The Odd Couplings" but once it was over, the authors had to decide who's page it went onto.

The one I wrote with XelliebabeX was moved to her name. It won a monthly and for a long time was a top story in novels and novellas.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in…

"In five years, the Corleone family is going to be completely legitimate."

 

[MillieDynamite]

The issue is, both Mickey S., and this event, are basically Noir. Which I love, and now I have to decide if I write two stories featuring Theodora Drummond or a different MC in one or both stories.

 

[KeithD]

The criteria of this exercise is right up my alley. The Spillane one is fine, but I have my own voice in mysteries and although sometimes that comes close to that pf the Spillane mood and I find that my voice often is nuanced by some other author I'm reading at the time, I don't really like trying to purposely mimic some other writer. I already have several works on the "to post at Lit." list that will fit this exercise. Sorry that it isn't occurring sooner.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

So I suppose that this kills the Spillane event (which was missing from the official events list last time that I checked), which is too bad since Spillane mandates something gritty and/or hard-boiled while the broader crime definition (which everyone seems to prefer) allows all towater down the noir or even straightup bypass the grit and deliver tacky plotless trope porn, like girl caught shoplifting gets naughty with security guard etc. That's a shame.

 

[KeithD]

So I suppose that this kills the Spillane event

Not unless the originator of the Spillane event has done so. I don't think it's anything Laurel's going to do.

 

[ElectricBlue]

So I suppose that this kills the Spillane event (which was missing from the official events list last time that I checked), which is too bad since Spillane mandates something gritty and/or hard-boiled while the broader crime definition (which everyone seems to prefer) allows all towater down the noir or even straightup bypass the grit and deliver tacky plotless trope porn, like girl caught shoplifting gets naughty with security guard etc. That's a shame.

No, the 2023 Mickey Spillane event is up and running.

Mickey Spillane 2023

 

[MelissaBaby]

So I suppose that this kills the Spillane event (which was missing from the official events list last time that I checked), which is too bad since Spillane mandates something gritty and/or hard-boiled while the broader crime definition (which everyone seems to prefer) allows all towater down the noir or even straightup bypass the grit and deliver tacky plotless trope porn, like girl caught shoplifting gets naughty with security guard etc. That's a shame.

Is there any reason the same story couldn't be submitted to both?

Frankly, I think the Spillane concept is too limiting. I participated last time, and did well, scoring a 4.68, but I have no interest in doing it again. To me, the Crime and Punishment theme opens up a lot of more interesting possibilities.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Don't be a hater, baby. Joe was cool, he isn't acting anymore, but he was cool. "Whatever you want, Leo gets, get it, Leo Getz gets."

He said he was retiring but he keeps working anyway. He's going to be in a television show co-starring Edie Falco, which seems like interesting casting.

Hard to believe he's 79 now! Born in Newark, NJ (like Tony Soprano) and raised in the next town up the road, Belleville. Both places seem to fit a guy like him.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Is there any reason the same story couldn't be submitted to both?

Frankly, I think the Spillane concept is too limiting. I participated last time, and did well, scoring a 4.68, but I have no interest in doing it again. To me, the Crime and Punishment theme opens up a lot of more interesting possibilities.

The Spillane Event is about Noir writing, and I used more of a cross between Raymond Chandler and Dashiell Hammett for my story. Some quippy banter and a tough broad detective, not a guy with a chiseled jaw. But yeah, the crime and punishment thing is a wide-open setup. "Look, Maw, I'm on top of the world." Really, really big bada boom at that point.

I see no reason you can't include the same tale in both.

 

[Rustyoznail]

So I suppose that this kills the Spillane event...

No, not at all. You could look at Chloe's event as a subset of the overall crime genre. I love the noir detective stories, but I couldn't come up with a story that came close to the darkness. This will let me dust it off.

 

[MillieDynamite]

The Spillane Event will continue on as long as the organizer, organizes! Gotta watch out for the cheap gunnzels with their heaters in shoulder hostlers. Yeah, you can see the bulge under the shoulder, and da lack of a bulge in the crotch. Dem is the give-a-ways, bulging arm pits, flat pants.

 

[Voboy]

I'm planning a story for this one, complete with noir elements and the kind of snaky characters certain to lead to a shitty score... but since I have no interest in writing in the style of Raymond Chandler, I'm not going to do the Spillane event. So, with gratitude and respect to Chloe and all the people who are planning to make that event a well-deserved success, I'll say I'm sure both these things can coexist happily on this site.

 

[RoperTrace]

Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in…

Haha, me too.

 

[RoperTrace]

Joe Pesci's one character he's played in multiple mob movies annoys me to the point I wrote the meathead into a commission story and just had someone knock him out with one punch which is what would happen to him in real life.

Have you ever noticed that some stars have played one character(mostly themselves) in multiple movie roles? John Wayne must hold the record for playing himself in 100's of films. One departure for the Duke was when he played a German Naval Captain who'd been demoted to a Capt. of a WWII freighter. LIke a lot of German officers he was anti-Nazi, and that was his punishment. So I can give Joe Pesci a pass on his one-character roles.

 

[lovecraft68]

Have you ever noticed that some stars have played one character(mostly themselves) in multiple movie roles? John Wayne must hold the record for playing himself in 100's of films. One departure for the Duke was when he played a German Naval Captain who'd been demoted to a Capt. of a WWII freighter. LIke a lot of German officers he was anti-Nazi, and that was his punishment. So I can give Joe Pesci a pass on his one-character roles.

See a lot of that. Not sure if its Hollywood thinking, okay, this guy is great in this mold so let's keep him in it. Or maybe the actor is completely one dimensional like a lot of action stars.

Pesci did play a lot of other roles, usually comedic, and I enjoyed him in all of them. The Mob movies were a departure for him, and for whatever reason he was the same guy in all of them.

 

[Duleigh]

Have you ever noticed that some stars have played one character(mostly themselves) in multiple movie roles?

Yes, that was back in the day where an actor or actress had something about them that drew audiences. Lee Marvin was always Lee Marvin, but he was Lee Marvin in different situations, and it sold tickets. Lee Marvin in Cat Ballou was hilarious! a big departure from his many tough guy roles, but he was still Lee Marvin. My all-time favorite movie and my all-time favorite Christmas Movie is and always will be Donovan's Reef - two classic tough guys in a comedy. John Ford grabbed a bunch of friends, sailed his yacht to Hawaii and said, "Let's have a party and shoot a movie together."

Just to be clear on the rules of Crime and Punishment - there must be a crime, but is punishment also required? and if it is, is it required for that particular crime? or can it be a kink used to spice up a slow Wednesday evening?