Is incest THAT popular?

[Rebelyell83]

As a reader, I first stumbled on the incest stories here in my teens over 20 years ago, and I read them as an outlet for my own fantasies at that time. Me honestly accidentally leaving one in my family printer lead to something slowly developing with a family member for real, so that section will always have a special place in my heart.

 

[Dr_Strabismus]

I don't read incest stories, mainly because none of my real family is hot, (except my hot cousin, who I do fantasize about fucking -- she's real tall, as tall as me). My brother is hot, but unfortunately he and I are both heterosexual.

 

[lovecraft68]

This is a link to the top 250 most favorited stories of all time. 9 of the top ten are incest. 15/5 of the top twenty and I imagine if you were to spend time counting out all 250 I/T is going to have the most of any category.

https://www.literotica.com/stories/favstoriesv2.php

 

[Pink5Frills]

This is a link to the top 250 most favorited stories of all time. 9 of the top ten are incest. 15/5 of the top twenty and I imagine if you were to spend time counting out all 250 I/T is going to have the most of any category.

https://www.literotica.com/stories/favstoriesv2.php

I like the saying about wolves and sheep.

 

[LoveLiving]

I don't read incest stories, mainly because none of my real family is hot, (except my hot cousin, who I do fantasize about fucking -- she's real tall, as tall as me). My brother is hot, but unfortunately he and I are both heterosexual.

I never had any interest in any of my family. They never appealed to me sexually. Just not interested or attracted. One cousin however, I would fuck forever. Very hot and sexy.

 

[Pink5Frills]

I never had any interest in any of my family. They never appealed to me sexually. Just not interested or attracted. One cousin however, I would fuck forever. Very hot and sexy.

I have a girl cousin who is a tomboy, and myself all girly-girl. We have made-out in her house and in the woods. Julie usually strips me naked, and she acts like the man.

 

[Rob_Royale]

Under age stories are not allowed on Lit. What makes you think it's okay in the forums?

 

[ElectricBlue]

Under age stories are not allowed on Lit. What makes you think it's okay in the forums?

It just got removed, that was quick.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

I have a girl cousin who is a tomboy, and myself all girly-girl. We have made-out in her house and in the woods. Julie usually strips me naked, and she acts like the man.

naked in the woods in december? are you fuckin' insane!

 

[lovecraft68]

and she acts like the man.

So she makes you act like a porn star then does nothing for you and its over in four seconds?

 

[lovecraft68]

Under age stories are not allowed on Lit. What makes you think it's okay in the forums?

Rape isn't allowed either, but apparently it can be promoted in the forums with no issue.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

So she makes you act like a porn star then does nothing for you and its over in four seconds?

seems legit...

 

[feather1892]

People love incest stories because the taboo is so strong. In the real world, it is said, that the vast majority of incest involves some level of abuse. Where one person has power or responsibility over another then it is almost automatically abusive. Generally this applies to a parent and child, and for physical reasons a man v a woman. For me there is a limit to which this reality can be suspended.

It is hard to imagine scenarios where a father/daughter relationship is not abusive, and I have to say I find this hard to overcome in literary fantasy.

For mother/son, provided the son is a proper adult (I.e. mature with real world experience not a ‘20 year old jock just back from college’) and the mother is not so old as to be infirm, a more even power balance is sufficiently possible for a story of consensual relations to be enjoyable.

A brother/sister relationship, provided they are close in age, can often have the most even balance. Where a brother is significantly older though that always carries the pang of abuse.

Same sex relations are generally more even, but age gaps are relevant, and again father/son is always inclined to suggest abuse.

I have only used Mother/son and brother/sister in any of my stories with incest themes for that reason (bar the Doppleganger story which effectively has twins going at it, but it’s sci-fi and not strictly incest). Does anybody else think like this or are you able to divorce reality from the fantasy fully?

 

[feather1892]

As a reader, I first stumbled on the incest stories here in my teens over 20 years ago, and I read them as an outlet for my own fantasies at that time. Me honestly accidentally leaving one in my family printer lead to something slowly developing with a family member for real, so that section will always have a special place in my heart.

I remember those days, printing off stories from lit so you could read them later. Ah the days before broadband.

Does anyone remember the first WAP enabled phones? You could count the cost of every page you loaded in the cents.

 

[SimonDoom]

People love incest stories because the taboo is so strong. In the real world, it is said, that the vast majority of incest involves some level of abuse. Where one person has power or responsibility over another then it is almost automatically abusive. Generally this applies to a parent and child, and for physical reasons a man v a woman. For me there is a limit to which this reality can be suspended.

It is hard to imagine scenarios where a father/daughter relationship is not abusive, and I have to say I find this hard to overcome in literary fantasy.

For mother/son, provided the son is a proper adult (I.e. mature with real world experience not a ‘20 year old jock just back from college’) and the mother is not so old as to be infirm, a more even power balance is sufficiently possible for a story of consensual relations to be enjoyable.

A brother/sister relationship, provided they are close in age, can often have the most even balance. Where a brother is significantly older though that always carries the pang of abuse.

Same sex relations are generally more even, but age gaps are relevant, and again father/son is always inclined to suggest abuse.

I have only used Mother/son and brother/sister in any of my stories with incest themes for that reason (bar the Doppleganger story which effectively has twins going at it, but it’s sci-fi and not strictly incest). Does anybody else think like this or are you able to divorce reality from the fantasy fully?

I divorce fantasy from reality. I don't feel in any way bound by reality, so long as it's clear that the participants are adults. For personal reasons I have a little more difficulty with father/daughter, and to date I've dealt with that by making the daughter in my stories the instigating party.

 

[feather1892]

I divorce fantasy from reality. I don't feel in any way bound by reality, so long as it's clear that the participants are adults. For personal reasons I have a little more difficulty with father/daughter, and to date I've dealt with that by making the daughter in my stories the instigating party.

Ya, that makes sense, if the weaker party is the instigator that helps the fantasy (obviously this would not excuse a real life situation).

 

[DarkSollat]

Incest story is not something I'd personally write.

Yet, I sometimes read them, but not because of an incest. I mean, if it's good, I will enjoy, if it's bad, it won't become good on the sake of an incest alone.

 

[NoTalentHack]

I think there’s one other thing that makes I/T so compelling in the modern day: it’s the last forbidden romantic relationship. I don’t mean that in the “forbidden taboo” sense, but in the idea that if you want to use a lot of older tropes for forbidden love, it’s the only place to go. There’s nothing forbidden about an interracial romance anymore, or an LGBTQ+ one, unless you’re dealing with characters that lack agency in a major way (underage characters, which are not allowed on Lit; people in isolated communities; etc.). If you want to make a “we have to sneak around to get away with this” story, I/T is the last one with that baked right into the plot.

 

[Euphony]

It is hard to imagine scenarios where a father/daughter relationship is not abusive, and I have to say I find this hard to overcome in literary fantasy.

Speaks more to personal preference than the landscape of plausibility in erotic fiction. There are plenty of authors here who regularly write non-coercive, loving, supporting relationships between an (emotionally mature) daughter and father. Exception to the rule? Yes. But so too is the son approximation.

For mother/son, provided the son is a proper adult (I.e. mature with real world experience not a ‘20 year old jock just back from college’) and the mother is not so old as to be infirm, a more even power balance is sufficiently possible for a story of consensual relations to be enjoyable.

Seems odd an adult male can have the emotional faculties to be a supportive partner in a healthy relationship but not a similar female. And females are, by and large, more emotionally mature at the same age as a male. So, good for the goose not the gander? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That doesn't even touch on some of the most stomach churning abuse I've ever seen has been in the mother/son space. Society often thinks physical harm is far more than psychological but plenty of case studies out there show it can give physical pain a run for its money.

A brother/sister relationship, provided they are close in age, can often have the most even balance. Where a brother is significantly older though that always carries the pang of abuse.

Same sex relations are generally more even, but age gaps are relevant, and again father/son is always inclined to suggest abuse.

Brother/sister benefits from the built in assumption they are "peers." And parents, in general, shift from a parental relationship to peers as their children gain their emotional maturity and individuality as well. (in fact, society likes to bemoan *too* many parents are stuck "friending" their kids at ages they should still be parenting)

Same sex really is no different unless you buy some hold over religious propaganda that LGBTQ individuals are more sexually aggressive than hetero normative folk.

Age difference struggles apply to most couples 10+ years apart. It's the same if it were conflicting religions or spending habits in "normies."

On the macro, real world media narratives and abuse statistics mirror much of what is said here. But we aren't in that macro, we write the micro of erotic fiction.

This is an important distinction because it's keeping authors from writing emotionally stable pairings in certain gender pairing/sexuality couples. And that only makes the problem of furthering the "it's almost always abuse" narrative" worse due to trope volume.

Authors should write what creatively inspires them. Generalizations stifle that creativity needlessly (even if we assume 100% correct statements, we are writing singular instances, couples, relationships.)

Less trope pairings are not inherently more interesting (people are people) due to biological dynamics or sexual mores, but because quality fiction and representation in the space in underserved.

I support those who take on those challenges in my words, actions, and in my voting.

 

[Euphony]

I think there’s one other thing that makes I/T so compelling in the modern day: it’s the last forbidden romantic relationship. I don’t mean that in the “forbidden taboo” sense, but in the idea that if you want to use a lot of older tropes for forbidden love, it’s the only place to go. There’s nothing forbidden about an interracial romance anymore, or an LGBTQ+ one, unless you’re dealing with characters that lack agency in a major way (underage characters, which are not allowed on Lit; people in isolated communities; etc.). If you want to make a “we have to sneak around to get away with this” story, I/T is the last one with that baked right into the plot.

I/T mostly has an agreement between reader and author that is straight forward and understandable without needing to be stated. It's an insta-fetish where much of the required scripting is done (by the reader) the moment the relationship is revealed.

Everybody's in on it. Authors can spend less time/mental energy on building a connection between the two leads and, instead, zip straight to the action (which many people are all about)

It also is less complicated to learn enough of its language to understand the "get your rocks off" point than say BDSM.

I find it fascinating so many assume the category popularity speaks volumes about huge swaths of people sexually desiring their actual family relations.

Much of what I've seen written here (as the bulk of submissions) suggest it's mostly b/c it contains an erotic shorthand people use to rush to the naughty teh sexors.

Also why the category often loses its shit over anything remotely outside of boring hetero-normative P in V.

It's the "dark" category that is, most of the time, grandma's down pillow soft.

 

[Pink5Frills]

~~ I like to write a story, of myself teasing my uncle, while his wife, ( my aunt ) is with mom in the kitchen. Or aunt seduces me to a night of lesbian lust, while her husband ( my uncle ) is out of town on business.~~

 

[Dr_Strabismus]

Basically you're a slut

 

[Magineer]

The perceived moral transgression is the hook, as quite a few have said.

The question for any writer is: how many barbs can you add to that hook? That the reader perceives it is generally a given. That the protagonists perceive it is another. That they engage therein despite this is perhaps one more. That they might (go on to) do so with a will, another. That elements of betrayal, infidelity, cuckolding, pregnancy - you name it - might be described, yet further sharp, little points on which to have your reader wriggling.

With many stories posted on Lit., the reader is left with scarcely a half-wriggle... the reason being, quality of writing and imagination quite to one side, the authors stop, self-satisfied, at barb #1 or #2.

 

[NoTalentHack]

Also why the category often loses its shit over anything remotely outside of boring hetero-normative P in V.

It's the "dark" category that is, most of the time, grandma's down pillow soft.

I will admit, I was very surprised that so many of the comments in my first I/T story were "anal ruined this." Gee, I'm sorry that my story about a brother and sister fucking with implied breeding and dom/sub fetishes upset you by including sex in the wrong hole.

 

[Euphony]

I will admit, I was very surprised that so many of the comments in my first I/T story were "anal ruined this." Gee, I'm sorry that my story about a brother and sister fucking with implied breeding and dom/sub fetishes upset you by including sex in the wrong hole.

I can't throw stones as I could be said to prefer "softie" incest myself but the category doesn't reward complex sexuality (relationships tho, yes) It's reductive to say it's fetish-lite for those who want to feel taboo but a large segment of the category really are.

I'm going to do relationship-y anal only one of these days to test my hunches but I imagine it'll do okay but not great and a lot of "he should've stayed vag" comments even when I specifically spend ridiculous amounts of time justifying why not.

Cloven hoofed babies it up, just don't go back door b/c that's the real tragedy.