Thoughts on breast implants...

[SlutAddicted]

I know you mean well, but this is so not the point. This may come off as very conceited, but I'm an attractive woman and I know I am. Sure, I'm not going to be everyone's cup of tea (who is?), but I never had any problem attracting men when I wanted to. I'm talking about wanting to be able to wear clothes I want to wear. It's not about attracting men or women or any of that. It's not about sources of beauty. It's much more personal than that.

I find it odd that people who want to lecture you about accepting your body as it is are ok with guys that would be turned off by implants. If you make the choice to get them that is part of who you are and any lover should accept that. If he is turned off by implants that is no more acceptable than being turned off by small breasts. Your reasons for wanting them are intrinsically valid because it’s your body. The only possible negatives I can see are any objective medical considerations which are beyond the expertise of most people commenting.

 

[CuriousTxGuy]

So, what are some thoughts on breast implants?

I think that a woman should post a picture of her breasts and upper body for comments. THis is a serious suggestion, no jerk off material intended. What one person this is "small " may be another's "large" and yet another's "perfect." There's also the matter of the relation of the breast size to the body shape and size.

 

[stickygirl]

I think that a woman should post a picture of her breasts and upper body for comments. THis is a serious suggestion, no jerk off material intended. What one person this is "small " may be another's "large" and yet another's "perfect." There's also the matter of the relation of the breast size to the body shape and size.

Nice try! Given the range of opinions about big/small/just right I'm not sure that would be an objective test!

 

[CuriousTxGuy]

Nice try! Given the range of opinions about big/small/just right I'm not sure that would be an objective test!

Sure, but the girl would have THAT EXACT range of opinions based on her actual anatomy. Just words doesn't work for this one.

"Show me how you look and how you think you should look."

Then, do guys agree?

Probably better if not just naked, swimsuits could work.

 

[SmokingFap]

My mom is the only woman I've ever known who had implants. They looked pretty fabulous to me!

 

[hanban24]

This may be in the wrong forum, but it probably works as well as any other.

I am a small breasted woman who from time to time seriously thinks about implants, and right now is one of those times. How small am I, you ask? I am going to resort to the "cup" size description, even though it is wildly inaccurate as cup size is a relative function of band size, not an absolute measure, and my actual cup size for my band size is different than the generic cup size scale most people use to discuss breast size rather than bra sizing (by the way, the cup size scale most people use to discuss size appears to be based on the 34 or 36 band sizes). Anyhoo, let's say I'm bigger than an 'A' and smaller than a full 'B'. Or we could say less than a handful. For me to achieve any real cleavage requires a torture device bra (although to be fair, I tried one on a few weeks back that was not very torturous and gave me about two cup size increase in appearance as well as some actual cleavage -- I almost bought that one). Thus, from time to time, I ponder implants. I would never go really big, but maybe a cup size and a half to get me to a full generic 'C'. And the fullness is as important as the size for me.

So, what are some thoughts on breast implants? Do you like women with them? Do you think they are disfigurements? Do you think they feel weird or off-putting (the ones I have felt were... different -- not off-putting to me, but it would take some getting used to; to be fair, it was just feeling -- I was not intimate with any of the women whose augmented breasts I have felt)?

If you have implants, do you like them? did they desensitize your breasts/nipples? Would you do it again knowing what you know? How large did you go and would you do that different?

Anyway, thank in advance for keeping your responses respectful and courteous.

I’ve always been more well endowed so I’ve never given any thoughts to getting implants. That said I know some girls who have gotten them to mixed feelings. Some of them love having larger breasts, some regret spending the money and think it wasn’t worth doing. As women, I think we all do things to try and make ourselves feel better about ourselves. I’ve always just thought that doing something surgically to achieve that was too much.

 

[policywank]

How do people feel about a woman getting a breast reduction? It seems like that is something that doesn't attract the same degree of public opprobrium. Why is that?

 

[stickygirl]

I’ve always been more well endowed so I’ve never given any thoughts to getting implants. That said I know some girls who have gotten them to mixed feelings. Some of them love having larger breasts, some regret spending the money and think it wasn’t worth doing. As women, I think we all do things to try and make ourselves feel better about ourselves. I’ve always just thought that doing something surgically to achieve that was too much.

Exactly - there's going to be as many opinions as there are women. I hope Jenni's found that hearing those views has informed her decisions. We need to be certain that our choices are the right ones for any surgery, with the proviso that nothing is guaranteed and that happiness is not transferable.
I'm relieved to have made my choice. Sure, I still see outfits and think 'If only' but I can look at myself in the mirror and say 'not bad, girl, not bad!' I can live with that.

 

[CuriousTxGuy]

how about a photo or 3 ? dressed/covered, one in a bra, and a bare set...

That is pretty much required for intelligent discussion. I suspect that a lot of women believe that they could switch from being ordinary to having all eyes on her when she enters a room and in some cases that could certainly be true.

 

[lil_jenni]

How do people feel about a woman getting a breast reduction? It seems like that is something that doesn't attract the same degree of public opprobrium. Why is that?

I'd like to think people would be supportive, but I'm guessing it would be more of the "be happy with who you are/what you have" comments on here. Some responses will only focus on the preference of the responding party rather than that person's thoughts on the surgery (e.g., "I love bigger boobs"). Oh, and a handful who make the question about sex, and will explain how they have had great sex with large breasted women and how the breast size of those women didn't matter, even if the person asking the question in the first place never mentioned sex.

Or maybe that was just my experience from the opposite side...

To be fair, I have received some very thoughtful, helpful, awesome comments on this thread. But I would say that only describes about a third of the responses.

 

[stickygirl]

I'd like to think people would be supportive, but I'm guessing it would be more of the "be happy with who you are/what you have" comments on here. Some responses will only focus on the preference of the responding party rather than that person's thoughts on the surgery (e.g., "I love bigger boobs"). Oh, and a handful who make the question about sex, and will explain how they have had great sex with large breasted women and how the breast size of those women didn't matter, even if the person asking the question in the first place never mentioned sex.

Or maybe that was just my experience from the opposite side...

To be fair, I have received some very thoughtful, helpful, awesome comments on this thread. But I would say that only describes about a third of the responses.

There's actually some interesting threads on Mumsnet with mixed responses. Plenty of people who 'know a friend that...'

 

[lil_jenni]

That is pretty much required for intelligent discussion. I suspect that a lot of women believe that they could switch from being ordinary to having all eyes on her when she enters a room and in some cases that could certainly be true.

No, pictures are not required for "intelligent discussion." I purposely phrased my question to focus on what people think about implants, not about me. I gave size information as background, but never asked if people thought I needed larger breasts. Indeed, I do not give a crap about whether others think I need augmentation. Only one other person's opinion on that really matters to me, and he is supportive of my choice either way.

I doubt that many men will understand this, but breasts and breast size for a woman is not necessarily focused on getting attention. I've expressed many times on this thread that a lot of my issue is about clothes I can wear and feeling good in those clothes. I know some readers likely jump right to envisioning clothes showing cleavage, but that's only part of the equation. A lot of women's clothing is made for women who fall in the middle ranges of breast size. A lot of that clothing is too loose for me, and it's too small for women with larger breasts. But unlike some men seem to think, it's not all about attention getting clothes.

And one more thing. I'm the smallest breasted woman in my immediate family. I expected/hoped to look like my mother. That didn't happen -- I'm shorter, skinnier, and smaller breasted. She's vavavoom and I'm not, although our proportion are about the same if you consider me a 4/5s version of her... But my point is that for some women, not having the physical attributes you hoped for can linger and lead to some body insecurities, even if you know you can throw on a tight top with no bra and still attract a shitload of attention. That's because it's not all about getting fucking attention!

 

[jehoram]

How do people feel about a woman getting a breast reduction? It seems like that is something that doesn't attract the same degree of public opprobrium. Why is that?

I have seen many women whose breasts seemed oversized to me, and who didn't benefit from gravity once they got older. But if they felt fine with them, I had no reason to suggest that they have such surgery.

But I think that there are a lot of women who would be more comfortable with smaller breasts, either because the breasts got in the way of activities they'd like to do, or because their weight started giving the women back or posture problems. These would be legitimate candidates for breast reduction surgery.

And let's not forget the ones whose "breast reduction surgery" was forced on them by a mastectomy. I know a few who were distressed by it at first, but either got prosthetic surgery or simply became comfortable with their new condition.

 

[Will527]

I've heard the term, "the closer the bone, the sweeter the meat" referred to breasts. To me, how a woman feels about them is the most important thing. If she is happy with what she has, then treat them as she likes. Some women love having their breasts played with extensively, almost to the point of having an orgasm, others just like having enough to lure and satisfy a man, and yet others seemingly don't put much emphasis on breast play.
So, it doesn't matter to me how much she has, as long as I know what she likes me to do about it.

 

[CuriousTxGuy]

No, pictures are not required for "intelligent discussion." I purposely phrased my question to focus on what people think about implants, not about me. I gave size information as background, but never asked if people thought I needed larger breasts. Indeed, I do not give a crap about whether others think I need augmentation. Only one other person's opinion on that really matters to me, and he is supportive of my choice either way.

I doubt that many men will understand this, but breasts and breast size for a woman is not necessarily focused on getting attention. I've expressed many times on this thread that a lot of my issue is about clothes I can wear and feeling good in those clothes. I know some readers likely jump right to envisioning clothes showing cleavage, but that's only part of the equation. A lot of women's clothing is made for women who fall in the middle ranges of breast size. A lot of that clothing is too loose for me, and it's too small for women with larger breasts. But unlike some men seem to think, it's not all about attention getting clothes.

And one more thing. I'm the smallest breasted woman in my immediate family. I expected/hoped to look like my mother. That didn't happen -- I'm shorter, skinnier, and smaller breasted. She's vavavoom and I'm not, although our proportion are about the same if you consider me a 4/5s version of her... But my point is that for some women, not having the physical attributes you hoped for can linger and lead to some body insecurities, even if you know you can throw on a tight top with no bra and still attract a shitload of attention. That's because it's not all about getting fucking attention!

I don't know how to answer that, because (hypothetical) the same pair of breasts on a large vs a small frame woman would have to look completely different.

Help me out a bit here. What am I missing?

PS: You might want to look up the experience with breast augmentation of Mariel Hemingway, who was VERY flat chested and got the surgery to get some movie role. But then she had problems with silicon leaking, and had those removed and replaced with implants with saline. not a fun story.

 

[savmitch1038]

I personally think breast size is irrelevant, but I always prefer natural over implants!

 

[curl4ever]

No, pictures are not required for "intelligent discussion." I purposely phrased my question to focus on what people think about implants, not about me. I gave size information as background, but never asked if people thought I needed larger breasts. Indeed, I do not give a crap about whether others think I need augmentation. Only one other person's opinion on that really matters to me, and he is supportive of my choice either way.

I doubt that many men will understand this, but breasts and breast size for a woman is not necessarily focused on getting attention. I've expressed many times on this thread that a lot of my issue is about clothes I can wear and feeling good in those clothes. I know some readers likely jump right to envisioning clothes showing cleavage, but that's only part of the equation. A lot of women's clothing is made for women who fall in the middle ranges of breast size. A lot of that clothing is too loose for me, and it's too small for women with larger breasts. But unlike some men seem to think, it's not all about attention getting clothes.

And one more thing. I'm the smallest breasted woman in my immediate family. I expected/hoped to look like my mother. That didn't happen -- I'm shorter, skinnier, and smaller breasted. She's vavavoom and I'm not, although our proportion are about the same if you consider me a 4/5s version of her... But my point is that for some women, not having the physical attributes you hoped for can linger and lead to some body insecurities, even if you know you can throw on a tight top with no bra and still attract a shitload of attention. That's because it's not all about getting fucking attention!

I am in general concerned that people often overlook the risks of breast surgery, but as someone who’s into fitness and bodybuilding, I am completely supportive of a woman’s choice. Lots of other body parts can be shaped with diet and exercise, but surgery is the only tool to change breast shape. A woman’s choice is hers alone to make.

 

[jsmiam]

Don't go change them, to try and please me
They never let me down before, mmm
And don't imagine they’re too familiar
And I Won’t squeeze them any more

I would not leave them in times of trouble
They never could have come this far, mmm
I took the good times, I’ll take the bad times
I’ll take them just the way they are

Don't go trying some new implant
Don't change the size shape of your boobs, mmm
They always have my unspoken passion
And they always make me stare

I don't want cleavage conversation
I never want them squeezed that hard, mmm
I just want some boobs that I can talk to
I want them just the way they are

I need to know your boobs will always be
The same old bosom that I knew
Oh what will it take for you to leave them be
The way that I believe they’re you

I said I love them and that's forever
And it’s a promise from the heart
I couldn’t love them any better
I love them just the way they are

I don't want cleavage conversation, no, no
I never want them squeezed that hard, mmm
I just want some boobs, that I can talk to
I want them just the way they are

—-

So it’s not just me who says they’re beautiful no matter what. Billy J0EL agrees. You’re gonna disagree with Billy J0EL???

 

[Susscrofa]

This may be in the wrong forum, but it probably works as well as any other.

I am a small breasted woman who from time to time seriously thinks about implants, and right now is one of those times. How small am I, you ask? I am going to resort to the "cup" size description, even though it is wildly inaccurate as cup size is a relative function of band size, not an absolute measure, and my actual cup size for my band size is different than the generic cup size scale most people use to discuss breast size rather than bra sizing (by the way, the cup size scale most people use to discuss size appears to be based on the 34 or 36 band sizes). Anyhoo, let's say I'm bigger than an 'A' and smaller than a full 'B'. Or we could say less than a handful. For me to achieve any real cleavage requires a torture device bra (although to be fair, I tried one on a few weeks back that was not very torturous and gave me about two cup size increase in appearance as well as some actual cleavage -- I almost bought that one). Thus, from time to time, I ponder implants. I would never go really big, but maybe a cup size and a half to get me to a full generic 'C'. And the fullness is as important as the size for me.

So, what are some thoughts on breast implants? Do you like women with them? Do you think they are disfigurements? Do you think they feel weird or off-putting (the ones I have felt were... different -- not off-putting to me, but it would take some getting used to; to be fair, it was just feeling -- I was not intimate with any of the women whose augmented breasts I have felt)?

If you have implants, do you like them? did they desensitize your breasts/nipples? Would you do it again knowing what you know? How large did you go and would you do that different?

Anyway, thank in advance for keeping your responses respectful and courteous.

I've always found breast implants to be a turn-off. I want to touch flesh, not silicon or bags of saline.

And there are plenty of gorgeous small-breasted, well-proportioned women. Artificial large breasts on a slim frame even look unnatural, putting those who partake in the "uncanny valley" territory for me.

 

[Older_Pervert]

This may be in the wrong forum, but it probably works as well as any other.

I am a small breasted woman who from time to time seriously thinks about implants, and right now is one of those times. How small am I, you ask? I am going to resort to the "cup" size description, even though it is wildly inaccurate as cup size is a relative function of band size, not an absolute measure, and my actual cup size for my band size is different than the generic cup size scale most people use to discuss breast size rather than bra sizing (by the way, the cup size scale most people use to discuss size appears to be based on the 34 or 36 band sizes). Anyhoo, let's say I'm bigger than an 'A' and smaller than a full 'B'. Or we could say less than a handful. For me to achieve any real cleavage requires a torture device bra (although to be fair, I tried one on a few weeks back that was not very torturous and gave me about two cup size increase in appearance as well as some actual cleavage -- I almost bought that one). Thus, from time to time, I ponder implants. I would never go really big, but maybe a cup size and a half to get me to a full generic 'C'. And the fullness is as important as the size for me.

So, what are some thoughts on breast implants? Do you like women with them? Do you think they are disfigurements? Do you think they feel weird or off-putting (the ones I have felt were... different -- not off-putting to me, but it would take some getting used to; to be fair, it was just feeling -- I was not intimate with any of the women whose augmented breasts I have felt)?

If you have implants, do you like them? did they desensitize your breasts/nipples? Would you do it again knowing what you know? How large did you go and would you do that different?

Anyway, thank in advance for keeping your responses respectful and courteous.

I like small-breasted women and I’m far from alone in that. Perhaps you should consider a quarter cup bra, to give a little decoration but leave your nipples and tits exposed. They look very sexy under a thin, tight top

 

[lifeis2short2b]

Implants IMO are more for a woman. It seems woman are more unhappy with there size and feel self conscious. Bigger is not always better when it comes to implants. I like when they are suited for the woman, I'm pretty sure most woman just need a lift instead of implants. But what do I know ? I love you just the way you are

 

[policywank]

I'd like to think people would be supportive, but I'm guessing it would be more of the "be happy with who you are/what you have" comments on here. Some responses will only focus on the preference of the responding party rather than that person's thoughts on the surgery (e.g., "I love bigger boobs"). Oh, and a handful who make the question about sex, and will explain how they have had great sex with large breasted women and how the breast size of those women didn't matter, even if the person asking the question in the first place never mentioned sex.

Or maybe that was just my experience from the opposite side...

To be fair, I have received some very thoughtful, helpful, awesome comments on this thread. But I would say that only describes about a third of the responses.

I have seen many women whose breasts seemed oversized to me, and who didn't benefit from gravity once they got older. But if they felt fine with them, I had no reason to suggest that they have such surgery.

But I think that there are a lot of women who would be more comfortable with smaller breasts, either because the breasts got in the way of activities they'd like to do, or because their weight started giving the women back or posture problems. These would be legitimate candidates for breast reduction surgery.

And let's not forget the ones whose "breast reduction surgery" was forced on them by a mastectomy. I know a few who were distressed by it at first, but either got prosthetic surgery or simply became comfortable with their new condition.

I feel as though people are generally more supportive of breast reduction than they are of breast augmentation for the wrong reason - implicit judgment of a woman's motivation.

We all recognize and accept that most people take steps to make ourselves look attractive. There are no universally accepted measures of what constitutes normal and therefore fits within the realm of accepting ourselves as we are versus what constitutes going too far and implies we are not accepting ourselves as we are. Yet we can be surprisingly judgmental of things we think go too far and surprisingly presumptuous regarding what people's motivations are for the things that they do.

I think that people imagine breast augmentation is usually all about vanity. But how does that differ from every other measure we take to look good. Is brushing my hair or wearing lipstick about vanity? And people call out a woman who has had a mastectomy as an exception - she is justified in getting breast augmentation to get back to the C cup she used to have, but a flat chested woman is not?

Meanwhile when we contemplate a breast reduction surgery we seem to assume that it is about comfort or convenience. But it can just as easily be for aesthetics. Is that more or less vanity based than augmentation?

I think that there is also sometimes a visceral inclination to not take such a step if the goal is to appeal to a man or men in general. It is anti-feminist or it implies he doesn't love you for who you are or implies that a woman is needy/insecure, etc. There is this sort of silly presumption that for men bigger is always better so they would never want smaller breasts therefore breast reduction is more ok because it isn't likely to be for the purpose of pleasing a man. But somehow feeling insecure about a flat chest is wrong but feeling insecure about saggy boobs is understandable.

 

[BenHoping]

As you can see, dear OP, preferences are all over the board and particular to those responding. I imagine your IRL friends and admirers won't be any different. Some think you look fabulous the way you are, some would be impressed with a more chesty you. Those who deserve to be called friends will support you either way.

For my part, it's you who makes her breasts sexy, not the other way around!

Despite my age, I haven't been with many women.

The hottest, most erotic woman I dated was flat as a board! She only wore a bra to hold some padding; without filler material, anything but a "training bra" would have hung loose. She was gorgeous. The memory of seeing her nude for the first time still gets me going 50+ years later! Lithe, willowy, blonde and uninhibited. Wowser!

My wife was pretty generously built, and I liked those too! She wasn't the erotic soul that the other one was, but she was grounded, and I never felt the need to stray.

After losing my wife, I've had one long-term lover--curvy. I've enjoyed visiting some hands-on strip clubs too, and I can honestly say I've never had my hands (or lips) on boobs that didn't turn me on, though some more than others.

There was one stripper I was with both before and after. I much preferred the "before" look, small and saggy, to the after. Afterward hers felt like she'd had skin stretched tightly over a couple of apples--very unnatural and not very erotic.

To thine own self be true!

None of us writing about boobs will ever see you, so take all of us with a couple of grains of salt, OK? Please yourself!

 

[stickygirl]

Is it possible to delete your own thread?
Asking for Jenni

 

[lil_jenni]

Is it possible to delete your own thread?
Asking for Jenni

It's okay, really. I think most of the posters truly believe they are being supportive. And the vast majority have been polite and respectful (albeit in a frequently patriarchal manner), so that's better than a lot of threads on here.