Why lingerie?

So we all wanna fuck like...humans...lol, but absent visual cues, we females have to arouse the male of the species, and we all know visual cues work real well on males (yep, that old PGF2α receptor at work, guys) so rather than physical changes, we adorn ourselves with feathers LOL. Well, and lingerie, or clothes or whatever, and you guys respond as per cues, and its game on..... so when you eye a human female in a bikini and experience sexual arousal, its your genetic ancestry hard at work - thats the way males evolved, and thats the way females evolved. The actual variations on the display itself are mopre cultural, but the need to display and the arousal as a response to that display are deeply rooted in our common inter-species ancestry.

Your PGF2α receptor is now hard at work if you're a male.....

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Chloe, in the future I may need medical clearance before I look at your posts.
 
Meanwhile, men: “Let’s see. I shaved yesterday… Oh, jeez! I wonder if I have to wear a tie?” 🤔
Actually that's a bit unfair. I know a few guys who really pay attention to what they wear, perhaps not all the time, but they do care. Of course, there are plenty of guys who don't even understand that wearing ill-fitting clothes makes them look clownish, let alone consider things like colour, pattern, material, etc. For myself, there are the days when I'll be in the classroom in person when I take care over my clothes, matching things and contrasting others, and even when I'm teaching online I'm aware of colour and (particularly) pattern.

Overall, I'd suggest that reported increases in menswear purchases and men's grooming products over the last generation or so isn't just a factor of women buying things for them. I guess perception could be affected by age and location, but I certainly see guys (including among my friends) making a real effort, though to be fair I am in a national capital with millions of residents. Not that I'd suggest that any other than a small subset of men would go to the lengths Athalia suggests.
 
Actually that's a bit unfair. I know a few guys who really pay attention to what they wear, perhaps not all the time, but they do care. Of course, there are plenty of guys who don't even understand that wearing ill-fitting clothes makes them look clownish, let alone consider things like colour, pattern, material, etc. For myself, there are the days when I'll be in the classroom in person when I take care over my clothes, matching things and contrasting others, and even when I'm teaching online I'm aware of colour and (particularly) pattern.

Overall, I'd suggest that reported increases in menswear purchases and men's grooming products over the last generation or so isn't just a factor of women buying things for them. I guess perception could be affected by age and location, but I certainly see guys (including among my friends) making a real effort, though to be fair I am in a national capital with millions of residents. Not that I'd suggest that any other than a small subset of men would go to the lengths Athalia suggests.
I have again run aground on my own attempts at wit, for such was my intention. Sorry if I upset anyone,
 
There's a sense of ceremony and celebration attached to wearing lingerie. Being on the spectrum my first thought when given the opportunity of 'dressing up sexy' was 'Well, this is totally impractical when you need to pee'. I've learned that when you have time to run a bath, shave your legs, blend that eyeshadow to perfection, then the next step is surely wearing something pretty.

What a guy sees might be gift wrapping, what a woman experiences is self-love: giving herself confidence, feeling sexy and generally having 'me-time' that can turn a meal out into something memorable. It's a celebration of feeling good, when your body has given you permission to have fun instead of censoring you into compromise.

As others have said, a painting without a frame is unfinished, a roast chicken without the trimmings is just food. Sex without care is just fucking. Heaven knows, there's too much in life that is mundane, rushed, squalid or purely functional. A bit of magic and theatre makes all that breathing in and out worth while.
 
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I have again run aground on my own attempts at wit, for such was my intention. Sorry if I upset anyone,
There's no upset, please don't think there was. However, I do think we underestimate generational differences when we think about the original question and the questions that have arisen from it. So, how much more do younger guys care about their appearance compared to middle-aged guys? Is this a cultural shift or simply an age thing (it gets to be too expensive/too much effort)? And, of course, the same questions apply to women - I have no idea what early twenty-something women in general think about lingerie - is it a traditional uniform donned to achieve a particular object, or is it something worn for the sheer pleasure of it (surely there's a mixture of views going on)?

But also, how much more (or less) is lingerie import to younger guys as something to appreciate, or is it something that more middle-aged/older men have a thing about? And then we also have to consider the non-hetero aspect, too. So, how much is lingerie a turn on for gay/queer women? It's a fascinating question with myriad answers and from a writing perspective I find the answers hugely informative.
 
What a guy sees might be gift wrapping, what a woman experiences is self-love: giving herself confidence, feeling sexy and generally having 'me-time' that turns a meal out into something memorable. It's a celebration of feeling good, when your body has given you permission to have fun instead of censoring you into compromise.
I think this description is really valuable, not something applicable to everyone, of course, but something that more men really should be aware of, if only for a bit more mutual understanding.
 
OK, thanks for all the thoughtful responses. To keep it simple and staying with just women wearing something slinky, the responses seem to be in a number of general areas.

First, while very broad (it’s a billion dollar industry), the appeal is not universal. Got it. Bell-curves are acknowledged.

Women seem to enjoy wearing lingerie because it makes them feel sexier, mor confident. Properly-selected lingerie allows women to maximize what they feel are their better ‘assets’ and minimize attention on those aspects of their bodies they are less happy with. It provides women with a bit of a thrill (genetic ‘satisfaction’ per Chloe?) to be alluring to men. There’s a bit of a teasing aspect as well, but one with a known ending.

For men, it’s presentation, be it ‘framing’ or ‘gift-wrapping’ or ‘adornment’. It heightens anticipation and expectation. Having to remove it extends the experience. A woman wearing lingerie clearly has more confidence in her own desirability, which is itself a turn-on to a man. There’s the knowledge that she has gone out of her way to please him. Similarly, it’s very likely an acknowledgement of her desire for him. Akin to my point for women above, the bits and pieces draw men’s attention to certain things or areas.

Have I missed or misconstrued anything important?
 
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You've pretty much nailed it from both sides, I'd say.
 
Indeed. And these are exactly the people who are not excited about lingerie.
I respectfully disagree. I'm a nudist, and I love to see people in their natural state, and who are enjoying being in their natural state.

But I'm also excited about lingerie. Lingerie communicates a lot of feeling about how women like to adorn their bodies to maximum effect, and what they want me to see that emphasizes that communication.

There's a place for both nudity and lingerie in this world, like there's a place for prose and poetry.
 
Have I missed or misconstrued anything important?
One question I have is whether the feel of the clothing (to the person wearing it) has any effect.

Over time, an awful lot of 'special occasion' clothing was uncomfortable (ties, high heels, corsets, etc.) I imagine that reminded the wearer that they were indeed 'dressed up' for possibly multiple purposes and possibly multiple audiences.

If you are wearing a thong, say, often you are the only one who knows it. Does that knowledge, or that awareness (by feel) alter the impression?

This doesn't even get to the 'accidental' exposure part, a whole different topic.
 
Over time, an awful lot of 'special occasion' clothing was uncomfortable (ties, high heels, corsets, etc.) I imagine that reminded the wearer that they were indeed 'dressed up' for possibly multiple purposes and possibly multiple audiences.
Which is true, but also those same 'special occasion' clothes may have been everyday a generation previously, which may be an interesting factor to consider in a historical setting - thus a 1920s flapper might well view certain undergarments (e.g. a corset) very differently to her mother/maiden aunt, and might only submit to wearing them with ill-grace. Or OTOH, the mother/maiden aunt might be secretly joyful to ditch the stays whilst remaining outwardly very sniffy about the modern fripperies the young women wear.
 
Yowser, the way you have written that could refer to the emotional ‘feel’ vice what sensations a garment creates against one’s skin. Wearing something designed to be sexy is an entirely different thing than wearing an item which is merely ‘practical’.

If that is so, I would suggested that it plays very much into women saying above that lingerie makes them feel more confident, more sexy. In such cases, the garb could very well be a secret from those around her. Obviously, if she is with a special someone, the dynamic changes.

If it’s the physical feeling, then lingerie offers a wearer (and hence a writer) so many sensations. The feeling of, say, silk drifting over sensitive skin is… special.
 
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Thongs are the work of the devil... unless you like the idea of having something finger your bumhole all evening. No wonder women are quick to get them off ... and what's this porn thing of shagging a woman without removing her under garment - like how is that comfortable for either party? A man could bisect himself if it was a manmade fabric
 
I suspect that a lot of Victoria's Secrets customers don't have sexual partners, and buy there because it gives them a thrill or a moral boost to dress that way.
 
I suspect that a lot of Victoria's Secrets customers don't have sexual partners, and buy there because it gives them a thrill or a moral boost to dress that way.
So you're saying I should hang around outside and accost any and all young (or not so young) ladies exiting with a full bag.

Not a strategy that I'd considered before, but I can't see how anything could possibly go wrong.

(Joking. Married)
 
TRC, you need to read my Story, Walmart or how to pickup women in 14 departments. :D
 
OK, I’ve written a fair bit of stuff highlighting the way lingerie appeals to men and am happy with the way they were received. Note that I’m not referring to the more extreme BDSM garb, but more those things which can also be v utilitarian - brassieres, panties, garter belts, stockings, bustiers, etc.

Yes of course, some bras (for instance) are more appealing than others. That’s more a matter of degree, I think, but it’s almost a given, I gather, that given a choice between a woman absolutely bare or the same woman wearing something slinky, for most men it’ll be Door No. 2 almost every time.

What I don’t really understand is the Why of it. I’m not judging and vive la difference, but why are a few scraps of silk or satin such a universal turn-on?

Yes, men are Visual creatures, factory setting, so to speak. That doesn’t explain the fascination of g-strings, negligées and such. Why isn’t nude tops?

Is it that women wearing such feel sexier and that mood carries over? Mystery? Gift-wrapping? Is it that, by donning such, women are openly acknowledging their sexuality?

Opinions and discussion would be welcomed.
Less is more I think. Being a bit mysterious appeals to men who are visual creatures . Different things appeal to different people.
 
But I'm also excited about lingerie. Lingerie communicates a lot of feeling about how women like to adorn their bodies to maximum effect, and what they want me to see that emphasizes that communication.

Exactly what I said (more or less).
There's a place for both nudity and lingerie in this world, like there's a place for prose and poetry.
Interesting way to put it.
 
Not a strategy that I'd considered before, but I can't see how anything could possibly go wrong.

For the same reason that those guys in Dogma hung around abortion clinics... they knew that their clients had done the deed, and might be good chances for pickups...
 
I suspect that a lot of Victoria's Secrets customers don't have sexual partners, and buy there because it gives them a thrill or a moral boost to dress that way.
Umm, not so much. They do a pack of 5 string bikini cotton and they are great for comfort wear.
 
I love to see women in lingerie, but beyond a short description, I hate to read about what the woman is wearing. Detailed descriptions of the fabric of the panties takes away from the story. If it needs to be added, tell how the woman walks out of the bathroom in a g-string and demi-bra and leave it there. If her nipples are poking out, then go for it. But don't get lost in a paragraph of how the fabric glistens etc.
 
For the same reason that those guys in Dogma hung around abortion clinics... they knew that their clients had done the deed, and might be good chances for pickups...

I haven't ever seen Dogma, so Lit is just a vein of solid gold tips this week.

Also, ew...
 
Why? Lingerie is pretty, lingerie is classy, lingerie is intimate. Pretty lingerie compliments the intimate areas of a lady. Lingerie is like an elegant female uniform of sexy times. Something about lingerie on a woman's body exudes feminine sexual confidence to me, and a woman expressing feminine confidence in her sexuality is... sexy. It's almost like seeing a naughty secret.

Plus the luxurious, lovely looking sheen of satin and silk just looks nice, soft, and comfy to touch. A red blooded man like me can't help but be tempted to run my fingers across and around. What else can I say?
 
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