Food for thought.

[Chobham]

I'm going to be posting a series of 'podcasts' here, comment as you will. And you can address the content as you will, or merely resort to attacking the presenter.

Jordan Peterson

 

[DeluxAuto]

If Peterson is the presenter, the food must be a vegetable.

 

[Lazaran]

That the OP considers anything JP says as "Food for thought" explains a lot.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Peterson posts here as "JohnEngelman."

 

[BluesDriver66]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Hl9P_RYVsDs/hqdefault.jpg

 

[Chobham]

About the intellectual response I expected from the cast of characters present.

Please note that not a single one addressed any particular subject, merely attacked Peterson for no reason at all. "So what you're saying is...."

Dildo's with dead batteries.

 

[phrodeau]

About the intellectual response I expected from the cast of characters present.

Please note that not a single one addressed any particular subject, merely attacked Peterson for no reason at all. "So what you're saying is...."

Dildo's with dead batteries.

Have patience. Denny’s isn’t open yet.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Peterson posts here as "JohnEngelman."

I listened to the beginning of his thread. I am a committed environmentalist. I think human caused global warming is an existential threat.

I never heard of the guy, but he strikes me as a pompous buffoon.

 

[Chobham]

I listened to the beginning of his thread. I am a committed environmentalist. I think human caused global warming is an existential threat.

Prove it, NO one cares what you "think."

 

[JohnEngelman]

I'm going to be posting a series of 'podcasts' here, comment as you will. And you can address the content as you will, or merely resort to attacking the presenter.

Jordan Peterson

You would be more impressive if you posted your own thoughts using your own words, using the internet only to document your factual assertions.

Anyone can find someone on the internet they agree with.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Prove it, NO one cares what you "think."

The last eight years have been the hottest on record​

By Josh Davis
First published 14 January 2022
Natural History Museum

The last eight years have been the hottest years ever recorded, according to NASA, with 2021 coming in at sixth place.
The latest figures from NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) show that global temperatures are 1.1°C above preindustrial levels, and creeping ever closer to the 1.5°C limit set by politicians in Glasgow last year.
The figures are in for how much the planet warmed during 2021.

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news...perature in 2020,on record, according to NASA.

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You won't care what NASA and NOAA think either.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Peterson posts here as "JohnEngelman."

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No he does not.

 

[Chobham]

The last eight years have been the hottest on record​

By Josh Davis
First published 14 January 2022
Natural History Museum

The last eight years have been the hottest years ever recorded, according to NASA, with 2021 coming in at sixth place.
The latest figures from NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) show that global temperatures are 1.1°C above preindustrial levels, and creeping ever closer to the 1.5°C limit set by politicians in Glasgow last year.
The figures are in for how much the planet warmed during 2021.

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2022/january/last-eight-years-have-been-the-hottest-on-record.html#:~:text=The average temperature in 2020,on record, according to NASA.

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You won't care what NASA and NOAA think either.

That only indicates that the climate is changing. It's always been changing. Fine, exactly how are any measures proposed going to make a difference? For example, you have to drive an EV for 100K miles to reach net 0 and that's assuming you have no major repairs along the way (the parts to repair will require even more energy mostly powered by diesel).

"Green" energy is a bullshit myth being sold to the public by individuals who will enrich themselves by the public buying into that notion. Paying attention to what's going on in Europe? Nah, you and the rest of the self-entered, virtue signaling, bitches don't have a clue. Want a clue? The Earth will be here long after the last human walks the face of the planet, that being a given you aren't saving the Earth, just you're sorry assed life.............and guess what" No one cares about you.

Energy makes the world go round, including the food you eat, So, EXACTLY, what are you going to give up to make this dream come true, being aware that those demanding you sacrifice aren't going to give up a damn thing? So unless you're willing to live the life of the mad bomber, and you're still here on-line, and you don't live in the dark, you're full of shit.

 

[Biggs_Darklighter]

Post Jordan Peterson and say dont attack him. LMFAO

 

[JohnEngelman]

That only indicates that the climate is changing. It's always been changing. Fine, exactly how are any measures proposed going to make a difference? For example, you have to drive an EV for 100K miles to reach net 0 and that's assuming you have no major repairs along the way (the parts to repair will require even more energy mostly powered by diesel).

"Green" energy is a bullshit myth being sold to the public by individuals who will enrich themselves by the public buying into that notion. Paying attention to what's going on in Europe? Nah, you and the rest of the self-entered, virtue signaling, bitches don't have a clue. Want a clue? The Earth will be here long after the last human walks the face of the planet, that being a given you aren't saving the Earth, just you're sorry assed life.............and guess what" No one cares about you.

Energy makes the world go round, including the food you eat, So, EXACTLY, what are you going to give up to make this dream come true, being aware that those demanding you sacrifice aren't going to give up a damn thing? So unless you're willing to live the life of the mad bomber, and you're still here on-line, and you don't live in the dark, you're full of shit.

NASA

Ancient air bubbles trapped in ice enable us to step back in time and see what Earth's atmosphere, and climate, were like in the distant past. They tell us that levels of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere are higher than they have been at any time in the past 400,000 years. During ice ages, CO2 levels were around 200 parts per million (ppm), and during the warmer interglacial periods, they hovered around 280 ppm (see fluctuations in the graph). In 2013, CO2 levels surpassed 400 ppm for the first time in recorded history. This recent relentless rise in CO2 shows a remarkably constant relationship with fossil-fuel burning, and can be well accounted for based on the simple premise that about 60 percent of fossil-fuel emissions stay in the air.

https://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/24/graphic-the-relentless-rise-of-carbon-dioxide/

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The lies are being told by the fossil fuel industry. We have experienced this before. For years the tobacco industry lied about the dangers of tobacco, until those dangers became too obvious to deny.

We need to impose massive taxes on the fossil fuel industry and spend the money on the Green New Deal.

 

[Chobham]

Post Jordan Peterson and say dont attack him.

That wasn't what I said, was it? I said was, "attack the content., not the presenter." Even Marx made cogent points in "Das Kapital."

 

[Chobham]

NASA

Ancient air bubbles trapped in ice enable us to step back in time and see what Earth's atmosphere, and climate, were like in the distant past. They tell us that levels of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere are higher than they have been at any time in the past 400,000 years. During ice ages, CO2 levels were around 200 parts per million (ppm), and during the warmer interglacial periods, they hovered around 280 ppm (see fluctuations in the graph). In 2013, CO2 levels surpassed 400 ppm for the first time in recorded history. This recent relentless rise in CO2 shows a remarkably constant relationship with fossil-fuel burning, and can be well accounted for based on the simple premise that about 60 percent of fossil-fuel emissions stay in the air.

https://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/24/graphic-the-relentless-rise-of-carbon-dioxide/

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The lies are being told by the fossil fuel industry. We have experienced this before. For years the tobacco industry lied about the dangers of tobacco, until those dangers became too obvious to deny.

We need to impose massive taxes on the fossil fuel industry and spend the money on the Green New Deal.

Once again you post the past, none of which I dispute........yet here we (humans) still are. And if you go back even futher into the paleo-climate you find that at one time the global temp was ~5C higher than it is today AND that period was one of the most bio-diverse periods in the planets history. Of course that was before humans were around which brings me back to the assertion that it's NOT about the planet, just about "ME."

The current rate of demographic projections indicate that by 2100 the human population will be 50% of what it is today and 'climate change' has nothing to do with that. That demographic collapse will bring with it a commiserate collapse in pollution of any sort.

Fine, you want to attack the fossil fuel industry. Precisely how is this transition made and how? What are the consequences for the lowest quintile of the global population as a result of your 'policies?' I can tell you're about to find out over the next year and little of it is going to have anything to do with any policy any government can concoct.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

Will Assmeal still be posting a "series" of podcasts here, or is the thread already sufficiently derailed?

 

[dkovic77]

Once again you post the past, none of which I dispute........yet here we (humans) still are. And if you go back even futher into the paleo-climate you find that at one time the global temp was ~5C higher than it is today AND that period was one of the most bio-diverse periods in the planets history. Of course that was before humans were around which brings me back to the assertion that it's NOT about the planet, just about "ME."

The current rate of demographic projections indicate that by 2100 the human population will be 50% of what it is today and 'climate change' has nothing to do with that. That demographic collapse will bring with it a commiserate collapse in pollution of any sort.

Fine, you want to attack the fossil fuel industry. Precisely how is this transition made and how? What are the consequences for the lowest quintile of the global population as a result of your 'policies?' I can tell you're about to find out over the next year and little of it is going to have anything to do with any policy any government can concoct.

Wow, didn’t know this was a marvel movie.

And the Earth has been stretched to its limits, you think the population will just implode in the next 80 years?

Well if it takes the dinosaurs with it instead of those who have a cavalier attitude about their dominance over things…then it will be win win.

As long as there are folks who don’t wear masks during a pandemic or they refuse to get vaccines since they “don’t work”, might not get to the 50% but they will count toward it.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

A fifty percent reduction in global population by 2100 is a huge stretch, and I don't know wtf Ishmael gets that forecast. But a twenty percent reduction is within the realm of plausibility.

 

[dkovic77]

Will Assmeal still be posting a "series" of podcasts here, or is the thread already sufficiently derailed?

He does sooooo well when being questioned.

Seems he likes his momentary domination by women, upon questioning.

He doesn’t seem to be able to hold up to even a little bit of questioning, much better just speaking without being questioned. That’s always someone who I would flock to and listen to what they have to say. Wait, that’s sarcasm.

If more podcasts, please someone with more authority and ability to not crumble.

 

[Chobham]

Wow, didn’t know this was a marvel movie.

And the Earth has been stretched to its limits, you think the population will just implode in the next 80 years?

Well if it takes the dinosaurs with it instead of those who have a cavalier attitude about their dominance over things…then it will be win win.

As long as there are folks who don’t wear masks during a pandemic or they refuse to get vaccines since they “don’t work”, might not get to the 50% but they will count toward it.

Do some research of your own , it's all out there. At the current rate of collapse China's population alone will be 50% of what it is today.

 

[Chobham]

He does sooooo well when being questioned.

Seems he likes his momentary domination by women, upon questioning.

He doesn’t seem to be able to hold up to even a little bit of questioning, much better just speaking without being questioned. That’s always someone who I would flock to and listen to what they have to say. Wait, that’s sarcasm.

If more podcasts, please someone with more authority and ability to not crumble.

Typical, attack the presenter without having researched any authoritative source. You haven't questioned anything, you've merely made some assumptions.

Tell you what shit for brains. Google "Fertility Rate by Country." Anything below 2.1 is a dying nation.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

Do some research of your own , it's all out there. At the current rate of collapse China's population alone will be 50% of what it is today.

You realize China is not the world, yes?

 

[dkovic77]

Typical, attack the presenter without having researched any authoritative source. You haven't questioned anything, you've merely made some assumptions.
Tell you what shit for brains. Google "Fertility Rate by Country." Anything below 2.1 is a dying nation.

Oh no I wasted enough time listening to him first talk ad nauseam and then fold under questioning. Please provide someone else and their thoughts for me to consider.

You seem to have locked everything into this specific person as an authority. A clinical psychologist wouldn’t be much of an authority on this issue, now if you found maybe someone who has a strong background environmental sciences, agricultural sciences, etc to back up your population discussion that would be good.

I did watch him have his ass handed to him when he was in his field of observing human behavior and he couldn’t keep his argument together with some basic questioning.

So yes, call me a skeptic on the power of his observation and your reliance on choosing him to start this thread.

I will hang up and wait for your next disappointment of a podcast selection. Might not give it a full listen if it is the same guy wearing a mask though.