Paul Pelosi Assaulted - Suspect in Custody

[BabyBoomer50s]

Most people don't rob banks.

Correct. People who rob banks or drive under the influence are not law abiding. These types of reckless and clearly life threatening offenses are not comparable to speeding infractions that most of us have been cited for at one time or another.

 

[ll74]

Correct. People who rob banks or drive under the influence are not law abiding.

Good that you agree. Thanks.

 

[ffish1]

The illegal alien from Canada is a psychotic drug addict. Mr. Pelosi was recently arrested for DUI, which means he’s not always “law abiding.”

Most people aren't always law abiding. Hence the money made off of speeders.

BB obviously is vigorously working your angle in his thread.

what a disingenuous propagandist,
this ill74 spammer is.

If you and I or any working class White person drove under the influence... oh, the horror!

 

[ll74]

what a disingenuous propagandist,
this ill74 spammer is.

If you and I or any working class White person drove under the influence... oh, the horror!

Your angle here is predictable. Drink!

 

[ffish1]

Your angle here is predictable. Drink!

your arguments are full of dishonest fallacies.

what's even more infuriating, is that you're in love with your 'cleverness' and 'wit'.

 

[ll74]

your arguments are full of dishonest fallacies.

what's even more infuriating, is that you're in love with your 'cleverness' and 'wit'.

Sounds rough.

 

[ll74]

It's a hoax

Yes, you're an idiot

 

[Comshaw]

The illegal alien from Canada is a psychotic drug addict. Mr. Pelosi was recently arrested for DUI, which means he’s not always “law abiding.”

While I totally agree that Mr. Pelosi isn't "always" law abiding as was stated, DePape isn't just a psychotic, drug addict illegal alien. Do you really believe that driving under the influence (which is very serious and I am in no way making light of it) equates to physically assaulting a person, fracturing their skull, while on a self confessed mission to find, harm and maybe kill the speaker of the house? While Mr. Pelosi should be held accountable for his actions, there is no way he was out on the street, liquored up, looking to intentionally run over and kill someone. It's an Apples and Lemons comparison.

That is the ONLY context in which this is a political issue and it SHOULD transcend ANY political affiliation. Unfortunately it won't. Already the narrative from the left is turning this into "proof" of how this is a "threat to our democracy." It isn't, David DePape isn't a "threat to democracy", he's only a threat to himself and anyone around him.

Nancy Pelosi could keel over tomorrow and the Republic will survive. Biden could die of a heart attack tomorrow and the Republic will survive. The loss of any single public official is not a threat to the Republic and never has been. The entire narrative to the contrary is a joke, a sick joke.

While I agree that DePape, personally, isn't a threat to democracy that wasn't what the Speaker was talking about and you know it. To clarify for those who were taken in by your attempt at misdirection, she was talking about the REASON he did what he did. The same reason Edgar Welch did what he did at the Comet Ping Pong pizzeria. They both listened to and believed the outright fabricated lies. And it IS a political issue, because ALL those fabrications, ALL the lies and rhetoric are targeted toward politicians. If that is true, which it is, how in the world can it NOT BE political?

I agree, The Speaker could fall dead tomorrow and the country would continue. That isn't and never was the gist of her comment. What she meant, and the thing you so blithely talked around, is that an attempted attack on the Speaker of the House, be they of either party, is an attack on our democracy, on our freedom, on the way our country runs. And yes I'd feel the same way if it were a Republican speaker. That is not the way we do, or should do things. To encourage anything else is dragging us down to third world status.

Comshaw

 

[Dribble]

But...it is the way Republicans want to do things Comshaw. The entire system is broken. Look at the reality...all those people arrested and charged and found guilty for the insurrection. Yet people not involved still believe the lies. Hell...those sitting in jail still believe the lies. And since the reality is very good...the Democrats will lose both houses...they will immediately impeach Biden. Even knowing this...Americans are voting Republican. Why? Because that is what they want...they want Constitutional Rights taken away from certain people because they need someone to blame.

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

 

[phrodeau]

If they try to impeach Biden, he can just refuse to leave office, right?

 

[bhurry]

anyone really give a shit

 

[KeithD]

anyone really give a shit

About what? About the political climate being so hot that in stark contrast to how everyone responded when Steve Salise got shot, Republicans are now being total scum bags about Pelosi's husband being attacked? Yes, I give a shit, because it shows how totally rotten a third of Americans and a major political party have become since Donald Trump opened the floodgates on how to act like a human being. It sounds like you must be one of the rotten little shits.

 

[AsmodeusPrime]

About what? About the political climate being so hot that in stark contrast to how everyone responded when Steve Salise got shot, Republicans are now being total scum bags about Pelosi's husband being attack? Yes, I give a shit, because it shows how totally rotten a third of Americans and a major political party have become since Donald Trump opened the floodgates on how to act like a human being.

But it was ok for Democrats to gloat and be total scum bags when leftoids attacked Rand Paul and Justice Kavanaugh....

Why is ONLY bad when the other side does it KeithD?? Why is it totally ok and WONDERFUL PROGRESS!!! When your team does it??

 

[ll74]

Political violence is not acceptable. Full stop.

People who target govt officials or voters or election officials should be punished to the fullest extent.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

While I totally agree that Mr. Pelosi isn't "always" law abiding as was stated, DePape isn't just a psychotic, drug addict illegal alien. Do you really believe that driving under the influence (which is very serious and I am in no way making light of it) equates to physically assaulting a person, fracturing their skull, while on a self confessed mission to find, harm and maybe kill the speaker of the house? While Mr. Pelosi should be held accountable for his actions, there is no way he was out on the street, liquored up, looking to intentionally run over and kill someone. It's an Apples and Lemons comparison.

While I agree that DePape, personally, isn't a threat to democracy that wasn't what the Speaker was talking about and you know it. To clarify for those who were taken in by your attempt at misdirection, she was talking about the REASON he did what he did. The same reason Edgar Welch did what he did at the Comet Ping Pong pizzeria. They both listened to and believed the outright fabricated lies. And it IS a political issue, because ALL those fabrications, ALL the lies and rhetoric are targeted toward politicians. If that is true, which it is, how in the world can it NOT BE political?

I agree, The Speaker could fall dead tomorrow and the country would continue. That isn't and never was the gist of her comment. What she meant, and the thing you so blithely talked around, is that an attempted attack on the Speaker of the House, be they of either party, is an attack on our democracy, on our freedom, on the way our country runs. And yes I'd feel the same way if it were a Republican speaker. That is not the way we do, or should do things. To encourage anything else is dragging us down to third world status.

Comshaw

No, I think the crime committed by the illegal alien from Canada is much more serious than Paul Pelosi’s DUI. I did not make a comparison. I called BS on the false claim that Mr. Pelosi is law abiding. People who drive under the influence are not law abiding.

 

[Comshaw]

No, I think the crime committed by the illegal alien from Canada is much more serious than Paul Pelosi’s DUI. I did not make a comparison. I called BS on the false claim that Mr. Pelosi is law abiding. People who drive under the influence are not law abiding.

You did call bullshit (rightly so) on the claim that Pelosi is always law-abiding. Additionally, you are right, you did NOT make an OUTRIGHT comparison. You did however, by not clarifying your statement, leave it as an unspoken comparison.

Comshaw

 

[ll74]

No, I think the crime committed by the illegal alien from Canada is much more serious than Paul Pelosi’s DUI. I did not make a comparison. I called BS on the false claim that Mr. Pelosi is law abiding. People who drive under the influence are not law abiding.

I took it as a comparison and an irrelevant focus on the victim.

Your clarification is helpful, but as with BB, it seems that you're more concerned with that aspect more than the crime which is the thread topic

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

I took it as a comparison and an irrelevant focus on the victim.

Your clarification is helpful, but as with BB, it seems that you're more concerned with that aspect more than the crime which is the thread topic

When I see bullshit I often point it out.

 

[RobDownSouth]

You did call bullshit (rightly so) on the claim that Pelosi is always law-abiding. Additionally, you are right, you did NOT make an OUTRIGHT comparison. You did however, by not clarifying your statement, leave it as an unspoken comparison.

Comshaw

Excuse me, I did NOT claim that Mr. Pelosi was "always" law-abiding. That's you movin' teh goalposts.

I was merely pointing out that Mr. Pelosi was in his home, minding his own business, doing nothing afoul of any law or statute, when he was suddenly viciously and maliciously attacked by a Trump apologist intent on doing grave bodily harm to Mr. Pelosi.

 

[Comshaw]

Excuse me, I did NOT claim that Mr. Pelosi was "always" law-abiding. That's you movin' teh goalposts.

I was merely pointing out that Mr. Pelosi was in his home, minding his own business, doing nothing afoul of any law or statute, when he was suddenly viciously and maliciously attacked by a Trump apologist intent on doing grave bodily harm to Mr. Pelosi.

I admit I added the "always" not to disparage you but to address the poster I was replying to. I will freely admit you did not say "always". HOWEVER, you did say this "...Pelosi, being a law-abiding Democrat...". While you did not add the "always" you did imply Mr. Palosi was law abiding. If he was law abiding he wouldn't have been arrested for a DUI would he? I will add that while he was in his home, at the time of the attack, he WAS law abiding and innocent of doing any nefarious deeds.

Comshaw

 

[PaxNurgle]

But it was ok for Democrats to gloat and be total scum bags when leftoids attacked Rand Paul and Justice Kavanaugh....

Why is ONLY bad when the other side does it KeithD?? Why is it totally ok and WONDERFUL PROGRESS!!! When your team does it??

The people who attacked Rand Paul and Justice Kavanaugh were not "leftoids" rather they were Proud Boys disguised as leftoids hoping to stir up hatred towards the Left. Kavanaugh and Rand Paul actually were friends with their attackers and it was all staged. DONT BELIEVE THE FAKE NEWS CONSERVATIVE MEDIA!!

(You see, you guys aren't the only ones who can play the "deny reality and make shit up" game.)

 

[AsmodeusPrime]

The people who attacked Rand Paul and Justice Kavanaugh were not "leftoids"

Put the Salon down, they lied to you.

The violent "protestors" with blue hair, rainbow flags and tackle boxes in their faces that attack/threaten Republicans in/at their homes aren't Republicans.

I don't care if RAW and MSNBC said that LGBTQ+ activist and green party member is alt-right....... they're full of shit.

 

[JohnEBbad]

Amen.

 

[ll74]

Put the Salon down, they lied to you.

The violent "protestors" with blue hair, rainbow flags and tackle boxes in their faces that attack/threaten Republicans in/at their homes aren't Republicans.

I don't care if RAW and MSNBC said that LGBTQ+ activist and green party member is alt-right....... they're full of shit.

The suspect's social media is a Fucker Carlson show.

 

[AsmodeusPrime]

The suspect's social media is a Fucker Carlson show.

Want to try again in English?

What's a Fucker Carlson show??

And is it a show or a social media profile??