Chaotic Coffee Klatch (tea also available)

[MsNatalie99]

Okay, an anecdote for those who feel awkward in conversation. I went to this bar called The brickboard Tavern. I had spent all night making eyes with this guy on the opposite side of the bar. He was young handsome strong, and judging by the rainbow necklace he was wearing, a safe bet on a guy I could talk to. I got a little impatient so I bought him a drink and had the bartender deliver it with a lipstick kiss on a napkin. So the gentleman came over and he sat next to me. He introduced himself as Greg and when I opened my mouth I threw up all over his face. I had been drinking Pepsi all night, I wasn't feeling sick, or nervous. I just ralphed all over this poor guy, and to this day I don't know why. Before anyone asks, we both left alone

 

[hotoldrguy]

It's the hard thing, isn't it? Because it isn't all men, and it isn't all white people, and it isn't all rich people, but at the same time, there is a systemic thing that IS, in a way, all of those things. And so we want to exclude ourselves because we're the good ones, or whatever, but the more we exclude ourselves, the more we also shrug off responsibility for changing the system.

Spoken as a pretty privileged, excessively white female from a whole New England WASP background, so...

I do not take offense when men or white people are used as a generalization because it is an overall systemic truth. Rather I try to be the person a group that will speak up when remarks or decisions are made. And that is my duty as a human being. Bad people win when good people do nothing.

 

[MsNatalie99]

I do not take offense when men or white people are used as a generalization because it is an overall systemic truth. Rather I try to be the person a group that will speak up when remarks or decisions are made. And that is my duty as a human being. Bad people win when good people do nothing.

I usually don't. But sometimes it still stings. It can feel like a false accusation. More often than not, I can dismiss it as knowing what they meant verse how I took it. But no amount of good works I do, parades I go to, Rally's I contribute to, or causes I support can change my gender or my heritage.

 

[PlanetaryNebula]

24... but thank you. Now stop taking shots at yourself, like there ain't at least half a dozen people who have wanked off to your photos, or laughed at your jokes.

Wel then I guess I’m doing my job. Making them laugh and making them wank

 

[hotoldrguy]

I usually don't. But sometimes it still stings. It can feel like a false accusation. More often than not, I can dismiss it as knowing what they meant verse how I took it. But no amount of good works I do, parades I go to, Rally's I contribute to, or causes I support can change my gender or my heritage.

why would you want to change them? You are fine the way you are.

 

[PlanetaryNebula]

Okay, an anecdote for those who feel awkward in conversation. I went to this bar called The brickboard Tavern. I had spent all night making eyes with this guy on the opposite side of the bar. He was young handsome strong, and judging by the rainbow necklace he was wearing, a safe bet on a guy I could talk to. I got a little impatient so I bought him a drink and had the bartender deliver it with a lipstick kiss on a napkin. So the gentleman came over and he sat next to me. He introduced himself as Greg and when I opened my mouth I threw up all over his face. I had been drinking Pepsi all night, I wasn't feeling sick, or nervous. I just ralphed all over this poor guy, and to this day I don't know why. Before anyone asks, we both left alone

Oh man. That’s rough

 

[Mika1215]

Okay, an anecdote for those who feel awkward in conversation. I went to this bar called The brickboard Tavern. I had spent all night making eyes with this guy on the opposite side of the bar. He was young handsome strong, and judging by the rainbow necklace he was wearing, a safe bet on a guy I could talk to. I got a little impatient so I bought him a drink and had the bartender deliver it with a lipstick kiss on a napkin. So the gentleman came over and he sat next to me. He introduced himself as Greg and when I opened my mouth I threw up all over his face. I had been drinking Pepsi all night, I wasn't feeling sick, or nervous. I just ralphed all over this poor guy, and to this day I don't know why. Before anyone asks, we both left alone

When I was just a Young Faculty Person, I went out to lunch with this guy who was an even newer professor, but older considerably than me, and very...proper, for lack of a better word. We went to this Chinese place, and I have this super weird gag reflex; if something peppery hits this one spot in the back of my throat, I will instantly start coughing. So I put this soup wonton in my mouth, hit the back of my throat, coughed instantly, ejecting the wonton onto the perfect lapel or his perfect camel-hair jacket.

It's hard to recover from that.

 

[MsNatalie99]

Wel then I guess I’m doing my job. Making them laugh and making them wank

Very well, I'd guess. Hell, if I had a few of your pics..... what a mess. Ha! How's that for awkward

 

[Diosax]

Well yeah, but I agree with the white or maybe male or maybe class supremacy thing.

I was joking about the dresses although I do love wearing them! But what I was really trying to say is something that I can't quite figure out how to put into words about where things start versus where things end up, and that dresses can be a way of hobbling women in 1850 (year picked at random) and a way of empowering women in 2022. Clothes can be power if you use them right.

But that probably makes no sense.

I did understand! Lol

no eye rolls from me. I never really thought of it that way when I trashed the standard long ago. I decided it was elitism, creating an arbitrary standard of the most influential, to represent a standard, to exclude outlying classes. However elitism, classism, racism are very intertwined. I had a hard time identifying racism when I was young, as I interpreted it as classism. I saw the income and education variances. Then when I learn I could fake my way into the elite, I labelled it "pretty girl privilege" because they were primarily men who were buying it, so that was the leg up why I could fake it and others couldn't. But then I saw women bought it too. It took a while to identify all the ways the let me blend when others couldn't and race is a big one. Certain very specific features, where just a minor physical change when I was younger, would have completely changed the outcome of my life, and race is one of them, so I believe you.

Thank you! It's a hard pill to swallow I know! From personal experience. I'm still learning and unlearning things for sure.

Umm… Dick is always the point . Just kidding. But you were being soooooo serious.

I'm always so serious idk how to be any other way.

Also, I’ve seen you.. you could wear a potato sack and the boys would flock to ya

Aww!! But you're the one that has all the men in chaos drooling for you!!

I know. It just sucks being the villain from birth. I know you don't mean everyone, but we say men, and not most men, or many men. We say white people, and not some, not many. So there is still occasionally a sting

It's bc all collectively have to do the work! Latinos do too. We are so racist obviously I don't mean me personally. But I didn't grow up knowing all this and I certainly didn't learn it from my family. It's taken me MANY classes, reading, listening, sharing what I learn, having honest conversations with my friends and family. It's fucking exhausting. But I believe in it and it's necessary.

People are just people. We feed the hate machine by constantly addressing all of our superficial differences. I’m not saying racism, elitism and the like don’t exist, but I bet if you looked at the small scale daily interactions amongst the different races and classes across the globe, it would look a lot better and kinder than what the media and shit make it out to be. Our anger/arguments/protests fuel the fire. Rise above and spread the love. (Copyright PlanetaryNebula Ltd)

I know we love to believe that but it's not true. I've experience it, I've witnessed it.

"Go back to your country"
"Did you pay for that?"
Being followed by staff in stores
"Where are you from? No really, WHERE are you from"
"Are you an illegal?" "Oh but are you a US citizen?"
And I could keep going lol

I'm not saying to make anybody feel bad. But this is so true

It's the hard thing, isn't it? Because it isn't all men, and it isn't all white people, and it isn't all rich people, but at the same time, there is a systemic thing that IS, in a way, all of those things. And so we want to exclude ourselves because we're the good ones, or whatever, but the more we exclude ourselves, the more we also shrug off responsibility for changing the system.

Spoken as a pretty privileged, excessively white female from a whole New England WASP background, so...

Yep! You know, BIPOC have a lot of internalized racism, colonialism, misogyny. We have work to do too. BUT we are not gonna be the ones to do.structural changes. That's yall!

You have never heard me talk in person!! You’ve only ever heard me sing happy birthday to you on vocaroo and trust me , the one I posted was like take #6.
Omg you should see me when I have a gorgeous client. Goober mode activated.
But I’m not trying to be hard on myself. Just saying I FEEL awkward sometimes

Girl shut up! First of all! You are FUCKING funny, supportive. You're open to learning and you ask questions. We all feel awkward. Being a woman is hard AF! Anddd you have great tits. Who cares what we look like, there are things that we can't change, genetically you know! I mean, unless you have money, im which case please be my sugar auntie, daddy, sponsor etc

 

[MsNatalie99]

why would you want to change them? You are fine the way you are.

Because not everyone is fine with the way I am. I don't want to change, but I don't like feeling as if I should be ashamed of what is beyond my control.

 

[hotoldrguy]

Because not everyone is fine with the way I am. I don't want to change, but I don't like feeling as if I should be ashamed of what is beyond my control.

If someone does not like it they can fuck off. They are not worth your time or effort.

 

[Diosax]

Yeah although my stepdaugher is really the genius at the quoting.

Best thing with Zoom is to try like hell not to watch yourself. You probably do look better than you think. Also you can adjust the settings a bit!

Funny story!

I was in a meeting waiting for people to join. It was just me and the boss. I was telling her I didn't have any make up on blah blah I look like shit and then she tells me about the filters. So I go to settings to do one and did the lipstick one and it looked soooo funny bc my lips are bigger than the filters so yeah I don't use those.

Beauty isn't an angle. Being beautiful doesn't change because you got older, or you had kids, something I personally have always wished I had been able to do, and it certainly not something that can be judged by the naked eye. Some of the ugliest people I've ever met in my life, could have been on the covers of magazines.

Feeling awkward, isn't being a moron. And an unflattering photo isn't being ugly or on attractive. Speaking from experience as someone with a penis oh, if you have a good angle, I'll still poke you at a bad one. Intelligence is subjective. You may be awkward to talk to, but you're humor still on point. You may say silly things, but you still have the ability to trip people up in conversation. I'm not trying to say that everyone is beautiful, only that those who aren't choose to be. It's all in how you carry yourself, and treat the people around you.

I’ve said this time and time again- you are theee wisest 25 year old I have ever met

Right!! She's so beautiful inside and out!

24... but thank you. Now stop taking shots at yourself, like there ain't at least half a dozen people who have wanked off to your photos, or laughed at your jokes.

Fr though

Okay, an anecdote for those who feel awkward in conversation. I went to this bar called The brickboard Tavern. I had spent all night making eyes with this guy on the opposite side of the bar. He was young handsome strong, and judging by the rainbow necklace he was wearing, a safe bet on a guy I could talk to. I got a little impatient so I bought him a drink and had the bartender deliver it with a lipstick kiss on a napkin. So the gentleman came over and he sat next to me. He introduced himself as Greg and when I opened my mouth I threw up all over his face. I had been drinking Pepsi all night, I wasn't feeling sick, or nervous. I just ralphed all over this poor guy, and to this day I don't know why. Before anyone asks, we both left alone

Omg shit happens

I do not take offense when men or white people are used as a generalization because it is an overall systemic truth. Rather I try to be the person a group that will speak up when remarks or decisions are made. And that is my duty as a human being. Bad people win when good people do nothing.

Wel then I guess I’m doing my job. Making them laugh and making them wank

It's part of your community service hours

why would you want to change them? You are fine the way you are.

Right?! I wanna be as smart, wise and caring as Nat when I grow up

 

[PlanetaryNebula]

I did understand! Lol

Thank you! It's a hard pill to swallow I know! From personal experience. I'm still learning and unlearning things for sure.

I'm always so serious idk how to be any other way.

Aww!! But you're the one that has all the men in chaos drooling for you!!

It's bc all collectively have to do the work! Latinos do too. We are so racist obviously I don't mean me personally. But I didn't grow up knowing all this and I certainly didn't learn it from my family. It's taken me MANY classes, reading, listening, sharing what I learn, having honest conversations with my friends and family. It's fucking exhausting. But I believe in it and it's necessary.

I know we love to believe that but it's not true. I've experience it, I've witnessed it.

"Go back to your country"
"Did you pay for that?"
Being followed by staff in stores
"Where are you from? No really, WHERE are you from"
"Are you an illegal?" "Oh but are you a US citizen?"
And I could keep going lol

I'm not saying to make anybody feel bad. But this is so true

Yep! You know, BIPOC have a lot of internalized racism, colonialism, misogyny. We have work to do too. BUT we are not gonna be the ones to do.structural changes. That's yall!

Girl shut up! First of all! You are FUCKING funny, supportive. You're open to learning and you ask questions. We all feel awkward. Being a woman is hard AF! Anddd you have great tits. Who cares what we look like, there are things that we can't change, genetically you know! I mean, unless you have money, im which case please be my sugar auntie, daddy, sponsor etc

I’m sure a lot of the racial inequality we all witness/experience has a lot to do with where we are located? Obviously I haven’t experienced it cuz I’m not a “minority” but I also can be oblivious. I remember when I worked at a restaurant there was a bus boy there who i always chatted with and someone else was saying this guy was mentally challenged or whatever, when I expressed my surprise at hearing that, another waitress said it was just because I don’t see people with those kind of eyes…. I think she might have been on to something. I also don’t know when someone is a creepy perv, and the only lies I can identify are the ones my bf tells. But that’s 15 years of field study .
And I think you guys exaggerate on the guys that are drooling and wanking off over me. But I will never tire of hearing it

 

[MsNatalie99]

Funny story!

I was in a meeting waiting for people to join. It was just me and the boss. I was telling her I didn't have any make up on blah blah I look like shit and then she tells me about the filters. So I go to settings to do one and did the lipstick one and it looked soooo funny bc my lips are bigger than the filters so yeah I don't use those.



Right!! She's so beautiful inside and out!

Fr though

Omg shit happens



It's part of your community service hours

Right?! I wanna be as smart, wise and caring as Nat when I grow up

Too much.... I'm trying to respond, but you're posting 10 things at a time

 

[Mika1215]

Funny story!

I was in a meeting waiting for people to join. It was just me and the boss. I was telling her I didn't have any make up on blah blah I look like shit and then she tells me about the filters. So I go to settings to do one and did the lipstick one and it looked soooo funny bc my lips are bigger than the filters so yeah I don't use those.

For me, they look invariably weird and only suitable for amusing oneself with. Also if you move really fast the lips don't always quite follow.

Yeah, two years of video lectures. I know all the dumb Zoom stuff to do when you're bored. I made all the kids turn themselves into animal avatars one day. That was a great class.

 

[MsNatalie99]

If someone does not like it they can fuck off. They are not worth your time or effort.

Agreed. It's just a generalizations tend to judge the individual before they are met

 

[PlanetaryNebula]

I did understand! Lol

Thank you! It's a hard pill to swallow I know! From personal experience. I'm still learning and unlearning things for sure.

I'm always so serious idk how to be any other way.

Aww!! But you're the one that has all the men in chaos drooling for you!!

It's bc all collectively have to do the work! Latinos do too. We are so racist obviously I don't mean me personally. But I didn't grow up knowing all this and I certainly didn't learn it from my family. It's taken me MANY classes, reading, listening, sharing what I learn, having honest conversations with my friends and family. It's fucking exhausting. But I believe in it and it's necessary.

I know we love to believe that but it's not true. I've experience it, I've witnessed it.

"Go back to your country"
"Did you pay for that?"
Being followed by staff in stores
"Where are you from? No really, WHERE are you from"
"Are you an illegal?" "Oh but are you a US citizen?"
And I could keep going lol

I'm not saying to make anybody feel bad. But this is so true

Yep! You know, BIPOC have a lot of internalized racism, colonialism, misogyny. We have work to do too. BUT we are not gonna be the ones to do.structural changes. That's yall!

Girl shut up! First of all! You are FUCKING funny, supportive. You're open to learning and you ask questions. We all feel awkward. Being a woman is hard AF! Anddd you have great tits. Who cares what we look like, there are things that we can't change, genetically you know! I mean, unless you have money, im which case please be my sugar auntie, daddy, sponsor etc

I’m sure a lot of the racial inequality we all witness/experience has a lot to do with where we are located? Obviously I haven’t experienced it cuz I’m not a “minority” but I also can be oblivious. I remember when I worked at a restaurant there was a bus boy there who i always chatted with and someone else was saying this guy was mentally challenged or whatever, when I expressed my surprise at hearing that, another waitress said it was just because I don’t see people with those kind of eyes…. I think she might have been on to something. I also don’t know when someone is a creepy perv, and the only lies I can identify are the ones my bf tells. But that’s 15 years of field study .
And I think you guys exaggerate on the guys that are drooling and wanking off over me. But I will never tire of hearing it

 

[Diosax]

Too much.... I'm trying to respond, but you're posting 10 things at a time

I don't like posting 10 different separate comments. I like to quote and do them all in one

For me, they look invariably weird and only suitable for amusing oneself with. Also if you move really fast the lips don't always quite follow.

Yeah, two years of video lectures. I know all the dumb Zoom stuff to do when you're bored. I made all the kids turn themselves into animal avatars one day. That was a great class.

Haha i do have a lot of fun with backgrounds though!

 

[Justadesperatewifeandmom]

so um apparently I need to watch more golden girls?

 

[Diosax]

so um apparently I need to watch more golden girls?

But I don't wanna!!

 

[Justadesperatewifeandmom]

also an awkward girl here, (though the quality of your stories may top mine, I probably win on quantity) I still maintain awkward is a strength.

 

[MsNatalie99]

also an awkward girl here, (though the quality of your stories may top mine, I probably win on quantity) I still maintain awkward is a strength.

It is, and oftentimes it's quite Charming

 

[HeavyBalls]

I'm awkward... And a nerd. And a furry beast.

 

[PlanetaryNebula]

so um apparently I need to watch more golden girls?

YES!

 

[PlanetaryNebula]

Very well, I'd guess. Hell, if I had a few of your pics..... what a mess. Ha! How's that for awkward

I’ll have to send you some then . You can print them out and practice your aim