Just another day in the gun paradise of the world.

[rockcasbah]

And you enforce your immigration laws. Canada does have some good selling points.

Clean, quiet, safe, lots of space….It could be worse.

 

[Rightguide]

Easy there, you’ll pop a vessel trying to sound wise and insightful. Well done, though. You’re gonna gat a participation trophy for trying.

I am wise and insightful. It's why the illusions you hold to be facts are so easy to dismantle.

 

[DeluxAuto]

I am wise and insightful. It's why the illusions you hold to be facts are so easy to dismantle.

Your posts tend to disagree with this proclamation.

 

[jomar]

I am wise and insightful. It's why the illusions you hold to be facts are so easy to dismantle.

Dream on, pops. (cue Aerosmith…)

 

[Rightguide]

Dream on, pops. (cue Aerosmith…)

My work ethic would wear your ass out, kid.

 

[dmonty]

It seems to me those that cry for guntrol are the same that cry for the right of someone to castrate a child, have them wear a dress and have everyone call it by some other pronoun, for feminism, against racism, abortion, save the whales, pro non-white immigration, legalise dagga, and for about every other cause.

They need some cause, and Stop the Vietnam war hardly means anything now. Stop all the mideast wars would not work as it would not be good for Israel. So ban firearms is as good as any.

Is there a pattern to mass shootings? they seem to be all over america, not just some regions.

Yes the biggest pattern is that 97%+ all occur where American citizens are disarmed by the federal and state unconstitutional Gun Free Zones ("GFZs") - despite many pleading insanity when apprehended they all show an amazing amount of sanity in planning to ensure that they won't be in area with armed citizens to stop them. Even in states with more "freedom", where citizens can carry without government permissions/registration - have municipalities or even "federally" unconstitutionally enforced GFZ enclaves that these mass shootings take place in.

In areas with armed citizenry, the very few times, a potential mass shooter thinks it might be a good idea - nver ends well for the mass shooter, they don't get their notoriety or body counts that they hoped for.

 

[dmonty]

Yeah, I picked up four new chicks and within a week, the strong three had killed the weak one.

The gulf is too great. Those who want to ban guns also want to shred and rewrite the Constitution, as Obama put it, as a charter of positive rights, and as you can imagine, that list would be long, expensive and lead to national suicide.

The US Constitution is a charter of Negative Rights.

Guns have become too much of a good thing.

The 2nd has been oversold and perverted.

If habeus corpus were oversold, the jails would be empty.

Abortion was oversold and is being corrected.

Guns will get corrected as well, in time.

perverted and oversold? How so... it has been infringed to the point of almost having been abolished, without a ratified Amendment doing it legally.

The 2nd, with the incorporation of the 9th & 10th Amendments, clearly and explicitly defined that the fedral, state and local governments have absolutely no legal or constitutional authority to restrict/infringe on individual American's civil liberties of self-defense, in any manner.

 

[rockcasbah]

Yup, perverted and oversold.

You’re awash in weapons, with the only threats your country faces being your fellow gun owning citizens shooting each other in the streets while crazy or high.

Is that what the framers had in mind?

Let’s see… the US Army has around 4.5 million guns.

US Citizens have around 395 million guns.

Perverted and Oversold.

 

[jomar]

My work ethic would wear your ass out, kid.

Nice non sequitur

 

[rockcasbah]

My work ethic would wear your ass out, kid.

He’s the man….120 words per minute, 10 Forums open on 5 monitors!

 

[Rightguide]

Nice non sequitur

You attacked my age, something you know nothing about, implying it was an impediment of some kind in comparison to yours. I replied in the negative by stating a simple fact based on your demonstrated intellectual sloth, which is reasonably apropos.

 

[dmonty]

How inclusive and egalitarian...

The tired, the poor, the huddled need not apply to our country club.

Why are you quoting an American socialists poem "The New Colossus.", it has no bearing on Canada's immigration policies. this socialists poem was used to raised the funds to build the pedestal. Sadly, it was misused to propagandize an immigration policy, that wasn't wanted by Americans, but only by socialist leaning government agents.

Lady Liberty was originally designed to celebrate the end of slavery, not the arrival of immigrants. Ellis Island, the inspection station through which millions of immigrants passed, didn’t open until six years after the statue was unveiled in 1886. The plaque with the famous Emma Lazarus poem -- “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free” -- wasn’t added until 1903.

Beautiful poem, but not an immigration policy, nor is it representative of some open-door policy of the early 1900s.
From the law of 1903 Sect 39:

That any person who knowingly aids, advises, or encourages any such person to apply for or to secure naturalization or to file the preliminary papers declaring an intent to become a citizen of the United States, or who in any naturalization proceeding knowingly procures or gives false testimony as to any material fact, or who knowingly makes an affidavit false as to any material fact required to be proved in such proceeding, shall be fined not more than five thousand dollars, or imprisoned not less than one nor more than ten years, or both.
Anyone that entertains or teaches disbelief in or opposition to all organized government, …shall be excluded from admission to the United States.

From the law of 1918, Section 2:

That any alien who, at any time after entering the United States, is found to have been at the time of entry, or to have become thereafter ... a member of any one of the classes of aliens enumerated in section one of this Act, shall, upon the warrant of the Secretary of Labor, be taken into custody and deported.

And from Section 3:

That any alien who shall, after he has been excluded and deported or arrested and deported in pursuance of the provisions of this Act, thereafter return to or enter the United States or attempt to return to or to enter the United States shall be deemed guilty of a felony, and upon conviction thereof shall be punished by imprisonment for a term of not more than five years ; and shall, upon the termination of such imprisonment, be taken into custody, upon the warrant of the Secretary of Labor, and deported.

Here is a poem that might better suit the United States immigration policy.

Welcome those who have stood in line
Please sign the book and take the oath
We expect you to assimilate into the country you chose to join
Those who have snuck in are encouraged to self-deport

The Statue of Liberty never was a beacon for immigration. and a socialists poem should never have directed immigration policy in any country.
However, despite the symbolic power of the statue and the sincere belief that the US is a nation of immigrants, neither of these stories we tell ourselves about what it means to be an American is actually true.

The transformation of the meaning of the Statue of Liberty illustrates how Americans often misremember our history. The original purpose of the statue was to commemorate the end of slavery and the country’s centennial and to be a beacon for others to follow, abolish slavery in their countries. It had nothing to do with immigration.

 

[rockcasbah]

My work ethic would wear your ass out, kid.

He’s the man….120 words per minute, 10 Forums open on 5 monitors!

 

[LukSkyFokker]

You attacked my age, something you know nothing about, implying it was an impediment of some kind in comparison to yours. I replied in the negative by stating a simple fact based which I based on your demonstrated intellectual sloth, which is reasonably apropos.

Your response only proves that you're an octogenarian who posts from a stone tablet.

 

[jomar]

You attacked my age, something you know nothing about, implying it was an impediment of some kind in comparison to yours. I replied in the negative by stating a simple fact based which I based on your demonstrated intellectual sloth, which is reasonably apropos.

Alright, alright, I'll get off your lawn! Sheesh, touchy much?

 

[butters]

Brandon Wolf, a survivor of the Pulse nightclub massacre, responds to MSNBC's Joy Reid who says it blew her mind that 168 republicans voted against an amber alert system for mass shootings in your neighborhood. Reasons for voting against it seemed to revolve around the 'they just want us to be scared' concept.

"The absurdity would be comical if it wasn't deadly in nature," said Wolf. "I think you have to start by considering what the Republican message to this country has been on gun violence for decades. They've told us gun violence is inevitable. Sorry you saw your kid to school only to see them carried out in a body bag. Sorry you had to provide a DNA sample because your nephew's body was mangled. Sorry you sent grandma to the grocery store only to be gunned down in the produce aisle. That's simply the way the cookie crumbles. That has been, for decades, been the Republican message on gun violence. If that's true, if you believe there's nothing we can do about gun violence, that it's just an inevitable way of American life, why on earth would you oppose giving people the very best information possible to be kept alive?"

"I'll tell you why," Wolf continued. "It's because Republican leaders in this country are not capable of, nor are they interested in doing the jobs that they've asked for. Democrats, I think, need to call it like it is. Republican politicians are obstructionist wannabe reality television stars who view their positions in government simply as a chance to see themselves on TV as often as possible. And, America, we have to be honest with ourselves. We have to stop enabling these totally unserious political mercenaries who are content to surround themselves with security without so much as giving us a heads-up that there is a shooter around the block. In a functioning democracy, this would and should cost every one of them their jobs."

https://www.rawstory.com/my-mind-is...rtPos=1&cx_experienceId=EXC93HV4HK4I#cxrecs_s

 

[HisArpy]

https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-images/imageserve/5ffde2af7edbfd2f5276eeed/Pro-Trump-protesters-break-windows-of-the-Capitol-building-/0x0.jpg?crop=3000,1687,x0,y63,safe&height=399&width=711&fit=bounds

GO FUCK YOURSELF

 

[rockcasbah]

I worry about the mental health of the J6 Lit Analyst Team when this all wraps up next year and Trump is still raising Millions online and at stadium rallies.

 

[HisArpy]

Yup, perverted and oversold.

You’re awash in weapons, with the only threats your country faces being your fellow gun owning citizens shooting each other in the streets while crazy or high.

Is that what the framers had in mind?

Let’s see… the US Army has around 4.5 million guns.

US Citizens have around 395 million guns.

Perverted and Oversold.

Actually, yes.

Because, strange as it may seem to those who only believe the sanitized version of history found in Disney movies, the residents of the North American Continent at the time were armed and willing to kill any and all who weren't part of their community. They did so brutally and often without warning.

Arming yourself against the possibility is called prudence.

Contrasting that savagery with today's mob violence and crime because of lax law enforcement only underscores the need to arm yourself for protection against your fellow man.

Your comparison of the people to the army merely shows your own mindset that the government is there to protect you. That same government which caused the police to stood around in Uvalde and let kids die isn't going to come save your ass after you dial 911 either.

Your safety and welfare is in your hands. If you choose to throw that away because of some misguided idea that someone else will pick it up for your benefit, that only illustrates how unfit you are when it comes to your own safety AND the safety of your fellow citizens. Which also illustrates why you support the government which takes your rights and freedoms while it promises to give you nothing in return.

 

[rockcasbah]

Actually, yes.

Because, strange as it may seem to those who only believe the sanitized version of history found in Disney movies, the residents of the North American Continent at the time were armed and willing to kill any and all who weren't part of their community. They did so brutally and often without warning.

Arming yourself against the possibility is called prudence.

Contrasting that savagery with today's mob violence and crime because of lax law enforcement only underscores the need to arm yourself for protection against your fellow man.

Your comparison of the people to the army merely shows your own mindset that the government is there to protect you. That same government which caused the police to stood around in Uvalde and let kids die isn't going to come save your ass after you dial 911 either.

Your safety and welfare is in your hands. If you choose to throw that away because of some misguided idea that someone else will pick it up for your benefit, that only illustrates how unfit you are when it comes to your own safety AND the safety of your fellow citizens. Which also illustrates why you support the government which takes your rights and freedoms while it promises to give you nothing in return.

Your reply sounds more like your personal opinion versus defending yourself at home and/or resisting tyrants.

 

[HisArpy]

Your reply sounds more like your personal opinion versus defending yourself at home and/or resisting tyrants.

Facts don't care about personal opinions.

That your personal opinion is that no one needs to be able to defend themselves against an attacker, in no way defeats the fact that if you're attacked by someone determined to kill you, you have a choice to either defend yourself; or die.

When you vote for a government which removes your ability to defend yourself, you voluntarily choose death. Not only for yourself, but for every one of your fellow citizens.

Which absolutely doesn't sound like anything the framers may have envisioned when they drafted the US Constitution.

 

[phrodeau]

The US Constitution provides for the common defense, not individual defense.

 

[rockcasbah]

I understand the notion of protecting your home, but i live in a near-zero crime community with a police response time of about 3 minutes… so i don’t need 80 times the guns the army has.

Likewise in terms of carrying in public, the most dangerous thing I’ve seen in years is a guy with a paper cup asking for loose change.

As for tyranny, we have regular elections.

So far, so good.

What do 360 million americans need with 400 million guns when the Army gets by with 4.5 million guns?

Is your community really that lawless?


Hey hobbit… read heller, personal defence, 2008?

 

[phrodeau]

Heller can be reversed.

 

[HisArpy]

I understand the notion of protecting your home, but i live in a near-zero crime community with a police response time of about 3 minutes… so i don’t need 80 times the guns the army has.

Likewise in terms of carrying in public, the most dangerous thing I’ve seen in years is a guy with a paper cup asking for loose change.

As for tyranny, we have regular elections.

So far, so good.

What do 360 million americans need with 400 million guns when the Army gets by with 4.5 million guns?

Is your community really that lawless?


Hey hobbit… read heller, personal defence, 2008?

Like I said, you abdicated your safety and security by surrendering them into the hands of someone who won't care if you live or die. You jusitfy it on the basis that you "live in a safe place" while refusing to understand that OTHERS MAY NOT but you require them to live by your ideals and suffer the consequences while you live in ignorance.

As for "need"; the Bill of Rights isn't a Bill of Needs. That means "need" doesn't enter the equation.

Finally, there's a quote out there misattributed to Admiral Yamamoto. It does something like: "You cannot invade the United States because there's a gun behind every blade of grass." That quote is probably the best deterrent against armed invasion that could ever exist. The fact that there are 400 million guns supports that concept that this nation WILL defend itself. You don't have to agree with it because you, like most, only take advantage of the fact that others do believe it. Which allows you to live a live of luxury and ease without having to risk anything for it.