Just another day in the gun paradise of the world.

[Fuzzy1975]

Ummm, no. It was to display how many useless idiots post on a page.

Then post more clearly, I have some on ignore, but I'll bet they are not the same ones you have....which means my # and yours can be different.

 

[eigenschwarz]

Defund video games.

I've been gaming for 30 years, but I haven't killed anybody yet. Hell, I haven't so much as punched anybody out since high school. Maybe I'm playing the wrong video games.

 

[dmonty]

LMFAO...you said when a, and I quote:

(how confident are you to face down a 200-300lb pig charging at you and putting the shot through a ribcage into the heart??) which is why most prefer the .3xx calibers.

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Now how about you post a picture of that pig head on, because the pic above is NOT what they look like charging.

ON a charging pig you have no clean shot at the heart, to say otherwise just proves you have zero fucking hunting experience . Not to mention if you're hunting pig, the last thing you want is a rifle. A 12 or 10 gauge with double 00 shot, that is the ticket.

Back to your mindset on the AR, it is a variant, was a variant, and will always be one. You can't change facts, go look at the parts diagrams.

*chuckles* idiots, claiming an AR-15 is not a variant of the Colt AR-15 is like saying a ten speed bike is not a variant of a single speed bike....

Armalite invented, created and manufactured (making it the original), so it cannot be a "Variant". Colt purchased from Armalite the model AR-15 when Armalite had financial difficulties. An original cannot by any definition ever be the variant.

So it would appear that you have never hunted wild boar..... I'll admit trying to find a pic with a head on placement and organs position is not something Google is making easy to find. But as you can tell the wild boars heart is just under the neck/head (and behind the rib cage - that when also match up the skeletal structure of my prior post) can see that hitting a charging wild boar head on can hit the heart. No, I haven't hunted a wild boar, though I have hunted birds (quail, duck, turkey, etc), deer and black bear. and yes you can hit the heart form a quartering-toward shot though it is more difficult than a broadside.

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As for the discussion tending towards to wild boar, you made the inane leap that wild board is a varmint/small game. It was this statement comparison by you that brought .223 into the discussion of small game and trying to wedge in large game into a varmint category. With that I also made the explicit statement that people don't typically hunt wild boar with AR-15, but some do and those that do use the heavier grain bullet over 70 grains (and have rifles with a higher twist rate). More often those that hunt the wild boar with larger caliber rifles generally the .308, 30-30 or other larger caliber.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

I've been gaming for 30 years, but I haven't killed anybody yet. Hell, I haven't so much as punched anybody out since high school. Maybe I'm playing the wrong video games.

He's upset because his mommy didn't suck enough dick to get him an Xbox.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

An original cannot by any definition ever be the variant.

Sure it can't.....
Just a little word meaning for you illiterate types...

Variant:
a form or version of something that differs in some respect from other forms of the same thing or from a standard.

So it would appear that you have never hunted wild boar..... I'll admit trying to find a pic with a head on placement and organs position is not something Google is making easy to find.

NO shit Sherlock, google is not your friend, and you'd be very wrong about me and boar hunting. That is why I am telling you your spouting bullshit about a heart shot on a charging boar.

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As for the discussion tending towards to wild boar, you made the inane leap that wild board is a varmint/small game. It was this statement comparison by you that brought .223 into the discussion of small game and trying to wedge in large game into a varmint category.

You stated the AR-15 was the most popular gun for "varmint". I just made a sarcastic remark, which you then went and ran with about "charging boars and rib shots....

With that I also made the explicit statement that people don't typically hunt wild boar with AR-15, but some do and those that do use the heavier grain bullet over 70 grains (and have rifles with a higher twist rate).

Again, you bring up the twist rate, why? It has fuck all to do with MV or FPS or hitting power. Twist rates are about accuracy. It is the stabilising mechanism. IE the more twist per foot, the higher the bullet's rpm, thus the truer the flight, except there is a trade off point, just like I stated earlier Force = Velocity x Mass. Math also deals with stability. The concept is basically this ( MV x (12/twist rate in inches) x 60 = Bullet RPM) the greater the rpm, the more drastic the deflection occurs if the bullet interjects with an object, which is why, you engineer the rifling to achieve the lowest possible bullet rpm for the physical size of the bullet. Same calibre bullets often have different designed rpm rates, based upon the physical shape and weight of the bullets as well.

More often those that hunt the wild boar with larger caliber rifles generally the .308, 30-30 or other larger caliber.

Rednecks maybe, give me a good ole shotgun loaded up double 00. ( which is what I use, and why I said to use shotguns way back in this little debate).

 

[dmonty]

Sure it can't.....
Just a little word meaning for you illiterate types...

Variant:
a form or version of something that differs in some respect from other forms of the same thing or from a standard.



NO shit Sherlock, google is not your friend, and you'd be very wrong about me and boar hunting. That is why I am telling you your spouting bullshit about a heart shot on a charging boar.



You stated the AR-15 was the most popular gun for "varmint". I just made a sarcastic remark, which you then went and ran with about "charging boars and rib shots....


Again, you bring up the twist rate, why? It has fuck all to do with MV or FPS or hitting power. Twist rates are about accuracy. It is the stabilising mechanism. IE the more twist per foot, the higher the bullet's rpm, thus the truer the flight, except there is a trade off point, just like I stated earlier Force = Velocity x Mass. Math also deals with stability. The concept is basically this ( MV x (12/twist rate in inches) x 60 = Bullet RPM) the greater the rpm, the more drastic the deflection occurs if the bullet interjects with an object, which is why, you engineer the rifling to achieve the lowest possible bullet rpm for the physical size of the bullet. Same calibre bullets often have different designed rpm rates, based upon the physical shape and weight of the bullets as well.


Rednecks maybe, give me a good ole shotgun loaded up double 00. ( which is what I use, and why I said to use shotguns way back in this little debate).

So if the original AR-15 model is the standard (Whether it be Armalite or Colt), if doesn't differ from anything as it is the original- yet again the original cannot be a "Variant" as it does not differ from the standard and it is the same thing, it isn't even a different form.

Actually, the heart of the boar is in the bottom of the ribcage and is "exposed" in the quartering-toward position. Finding a picture that identifies the skeletal, vital organs in a quartering-toward picture is difficult, the 2 pics I have provided show how the quartering-toward heart location and the skeletal structure, and using just a modicum of critical thinking one can see that from the quartering-toward position one can see the heart.

The AR-15 is a direct variant of the Colt-AR-15. Spin it how you wish.

Really? hmmm so it's never been used in a mass shooting event eh?

Shooting varmints....really you need a .223 with a MV FPS of between 2,950-3,750 ( dependant upon the grain of the bullet) to shoot squirrels, possums, wild pigs yah maybe? How about using the 5.56 NATO round....2,790 to 3,110 (again dependant upon the grain weight) still a pretty hot round, for a fucking squirrel.......no, these rounds are not for varmint, they are designed as man killers.....spin your bullshit anyway you wish.

Idiot!

If it was sarcasm about "Wild Pigs", it was entirely lost as no one would take your posting about small game and adding 1 big game animal as sarcasm....

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The twist rate is an important factor in bullet stability, heavier bullets need more twisting to aid in the bullets stability - so it is an important factor. If you have a 70+ grain bullet with an AR-15 twist rate of 1-8 it is not going to be stabile it wile keyhole. The heavier loads require a 1-10 or even more to have accuracy and stability. and with hunting the "bigger game" you need more twisting rates to stabilize the bullet, using the standard 50-55 grain bullet (for varmint) a 1-8 is perfect, going heavier you need the faster rpm to stabilize the heavier bullet.

 

[jomar]

WTF is going on in this thread?

 

[rockcasbah]

WTF is going on in this thread?

Preening?

 

[phrodeau]

WTF is going on in this thread?

Desperation.

 

[ll74]

WTF is going on in this thread?

Mostly just dmonty copypastaing his bullshit so they can feel better about themselves

 

[rockcasbah]

There’s a widower over on the gb looking for similar male companionship.

 

[jomar]

Preening?

Desperation.

Mostly just dmonty copypastaing his bullshit so they can feel better about themselves

I hope he gets the validation he craves.

 

[domroger]

Only a wuss uses a gun or shotgun on a charging pig ,a real man uses a boar spear

 

[butters]

gun sales have declined during the first six months of the year in 47 states. To determine the states with the greatest collapse in gun sales, 24/7 Wall St. ranked states by the change in background checks in January-June 2022 compared to the same period in 2021, using data from the FBI’s NICS. Population figures came from the Census Bureau’s 2020 American Community Survey and are five-year averages. Gun sales have dropped between 8.4% to nearly 66%.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...sedgntp&cvid=8ddc12b9a80e402ed1585ca9ce16db91

 

[Fuzzy1975]

So if the original AR-15 model is the standard (Whether it be Armalite or Colt), if doesn't differ from anything as it is the original- yet again the original cannot be a "Variant" as it does not differ from the standard and it is the same thing, it isn't even a different form.

Igive up, you can't fix stupid....*chuckles*

Actually, the heart of the boar is in the bottom of the ribcage and is "exposed" in the quartering-toward position. Finding a picture that identifies the skeletal, vital organs in a quartering-toward picture is difficult, the 2 pics I have provided show how the quartering-toward heart location and the skeletal structure, and using just a modicum of critical thinking one can see that from the quartering-toward position one can see the heart.

Again you said charging.....and I have had pigs run bluffs, you don't get a shot at the heart. Damn have you ever even hunted????

If it was sarcasm about "Wild Pigs", it was entirely lost as no one would take your posting about small game and adding 1 big game animal as sarcasm....

That was the sarcasm idiot....did you just get it now???? Not to mention shooting an approximate 3000 fps round at a squirrel, which was also mentioned in the same post.

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The twist rate is an important factor in bullet stability, heavier bullets need more twisting to aid in the bullets stability - so it is an important factor.

And I went over it earlier, you want to drill holes in targets at 1000 yards, then yes it is important. You want to have DTR shots at 40 yards, it means fuck all.

If you have a 70+ grain bullet with an AR-15 twist rate of 1-8 it is not going to be stabile it wile keyhole. The heavier loads require a 1-10 or even more to have accuracy and stability. and with hunting the "bigger game" you need more twisting rates to stabilize the bullet, using the standard 50-55 grain bullet (for varmint) a 1-8 is perfect, going heavier you need the faster rpm to stabilize the heavier bullet.

Note did you review the formula on bullet rpm? If you have a low twist rate, and you need to increase the bullet rpm, you increase the velocity ( ie up your loads) the bullet travels up the barrel. If you have a high twist rate, and the bullet's rpm is to high, you lower the loads....you know absolutely nothing except what google tells you.....

 

[Philthy_Phil]

So if the original AR-15 model is the standard (Whether it be Armalite or Colt), if doesn't differ from anything as it is the original- yet again the original cannot be a "Variant" as it does not differ from the standard and it is the same thing, it isn't even a different form.

Actually, the heart of the boar is in the bottom of the ribcage and is "exposed" in the quartering-toward position. Finding a picture that identifies the skeletal, vital organs in a quartering-toward picture is difficult, the 2 pics I have provided show how the quartering-toward heart location and the skeletal structure, and using just a modicum of critical thinking one can see that from the quartering-toward position one can see the heart.


If it was sarcasm about "Wild Pigs", it was entirely lost as no one would take your posting about small game and adding 1 big game animal as sarcasm....

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The twist rate is an important factor in bullet stability, heavier bullets need more twisting to aid in the bullets stability - so it is an important factor. If you have a 70+ grain bullet with an AR-15 twist rate of 1-8 it is not going to be stabile it wile keyhole. The heavier loads require a 1-10 or even more to have accuracy and stability. and with hunting the "bigger game" you need more twisting rates to stabilize the bullet, using the standard 50-55 grain bullet (for varmint) a 1-8 is perfect, going heavier you need the faster rpm to stabilize the heavier bullet.

Yeah, I play Call of The Wild too.

You get the new DLC?

 

[Rightguide]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...sedgntp&cvid=8ddc12b9a80e402ed1585ca9ce16db91

One problem. The number reported relies upon FBI background check info, Several "point of contact states" conduct their own background checks. Still, the reduced number is the third highest in history.

 

[butters]

gun groups contest Newsom's ban over marketing weapons to children

Newsom’s office cited advertising by a gun manufacturer named Wee 1 Tactical of an AR-15 meant for kids as an example of why the law was needed.

In Friday’s lawsuit, Junior Sports Magazines, the magazine publisher, and groups also including the California Rifle & Pistol Association said the legislation went too far in abridging their speech rights.

They said the bill wrongly prohibits the promotion of lawful firearm-related events and programs and impermissibly restricted pro-gun organizations from promoting membership in their groups in ways deemed “attractive to minors.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/f...sedgntp&cvid=e9de8fc727e04916acae9fba623b9771

 

[butters]

no child needs an AR-15

they might be encouraged to want one, through marketing, through parents. how. fucking. sick.

 

[rockcasbah]

Do American kids still play Cowboys and Indians?

Patriots and Muslims?

 

[RobDownSouth]

If Fuzzy vs. dmonty was a boxing match, the ref would've stopped the fight 3 rounds ago.

 

[doubleover]

Do American kids still play Cowboys and Indians?

Patriots and Muslims?

That's old school and racist.

 

[phrodeau]

Do American kids still play Cowboys and Indians?

Patriots and Muslims?

Jedi and Ninjas.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Do American kids still play Cowboys and Indians?

Patriots and Muslims?

Psst... there were real cowboys and Indians in Canuckistan, Warrick Davis.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Psst... there were real cowboys and Indians in Canuckistan, Warrick Davis.

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