Just another day in the gun paradise of the world.

[dmonty]

With the exception of one, they were all unarmed. IMHO he had no need to shoot. KR could have had a semi auto .308 ( I could name two dozen other rifles that would have worked just as well), and done just the same. Or a Glock ( how many handguns? the list is extremely long..maybe a 1911? eh?) ..he had no need of an AR-15. Your statement is useless as a reason for having the AR-15....same for the Korean's plenty of other weapons that would have done the same job.

So being chased, and violently attacked for no reason as Kyle attempts to flee from that situation which the attackers initiated - Kyle didn't initiate anything. So, in your "humble" opinion Kyle should have just stopped, and dropped all defensive postures and just allowed his attackers to maim or murder him and not protect himself - I guess you provide the same advice in you "humble" opinion to rape victims 'Close your eyes and think of England'.

Good thing that Kyle didn't take your advice and instead followed the law and protected himself from 4 people with a history of violently attacking others.

So skateboard guy, and head stomper with heavy boots were armed??

Skateboards have a long history of being used as dangerous weapons that can kill or maim
https://abc7.com/starbucks-fight-santa-ana-man-dies-skateboard/1098183/

as for your statement about AR-15 vs other self defense choices, handgun vs rifle or rifle vs rifle the AR-15 has a long history (over 70 years) of effective self-defense; also you may not be aware that typically the .308 Win is more powerful a caliber than the .223 Rem (AR-15) - So you're suggesting in your "humble" opinion that Kyle's AR-15 .223 caliber may not have been enough for his self-defense and that he might have needed a larger caliber.

 

[dmonty]

You didn’t answer the question.

Government definition? Give me a break.

So what other definition would you propose?

 

[dmonty]

Not to mention that if Kyle didn’t have an AR he probably wouldn’t have put himself in positions to be harassed by those idiots.

and yet it was captured on video that those violent idiots - were harassing others without guns as well, but after a day of harassing other innocent people and destroying private property, just wasn't enough and they took to violently pursuing and attacking Kyle, who defended himself admirably - not harming a single person not involved in his attacks.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

Replies to gun-related tragedy with gun porn. Can’t make this shit up.

 

[dmonty]

Bobby Crimo is the son of a Republican family active in local politics and supporting the Second Amendment.

Most of us know that sons of politicians, cops, military members and clergy tend to be fucked up.

Should bad parenting make the parents an Accessory?

Or should fucked up kids of those who serve get special treatment because a parent was busy serving the public?

His father may have had a few "republican" leanings, but he was a registered Democrat.



Also The picture of him wearing a “Where’s Waldo?” outfit appears to be mocking the Trump rally. That’s actually a play on a joke that Jimmy Kimmel made about Trump. So, it’s not something a Trump supporter would be doing.

Although Crimo appears to have attended Trump rallies and may have made the effort to see the president in convoy, we still can't yet be certain about his motivation for doing so. that said, there is no other verifiable information beyond these photos and videos that explain either the extent or intent of his admiration if any for Trump.

Nor can we state for certain if his political leanings (whatever they may transpire to be) impacted his decision. But more and more of the available evidence in the public domain seems to be leaning that his "political ideologies" were more in line with the Democrats.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

So being chased, and violently attacked for no reason as Kyle attempts to flee from that situation which the attackers initiated - Kyle didn't initiate anything. So, in your "humble" opinion Kyle should have just stopped, and dropped all defensive postures and just allowed his attackers to maim or murder him and not protect himself - I guess you provide the same advice in you "humble" opinion to rape victims 'Close your eyes and think of England'.

KR's case went to court, and he was found not guilty. I am not re litigating it, I am just offering up my opinion on what I saw transpire. I will re state it, I saw no need for him to have fired. As I said ( and in the thread about his case) earlier, if KR had just stayed home and not inserted himself into the situation, 3 people would be alive. As to bringing up rape, you do understand there is a difference between shooting people and raping them> right? ( given your posting I am not sure you do understand that...*chuckles*)

Good thing that Kyle didn't take your advice and instead followed the law and protected himself from 4 people with a history of violently attacking others.

I never offered advice to KR, if I had, it would have been to stay home and let the trained LEO do their job.

as for your statement about AR-15 vs other self defense choices, handgun vs rifle or rifle vs rifle the AR-15 has a long history (over 70 years) of effective self-defense; also you may not be aware that typically the .308 Win is more powerful a caliber than the .223 Rem (AR-15) -

No idiot, I am simply saying the AR-15 is not the only firearm that would have killed those people when KR opened fire.

So you're suggesting in your "humble" opinion that Kyle's AR-15 .223 caliber may not have been enough for his self-defense and that he might have needed a larger caliber.

Myself, I am pretty sure I could have done it with my 1918 .303 with the 18" bayonet attached. I'm thinking I would not even have had to shoot it if I was in KR's place....lol That blade is scary enough on it's own.....

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Nice graph, and it does nothing to disprove that any dependable semi automatic would have done the job, where you state the AR-15 was the only tool, or best tool for the job. On that point I disagree. Yet you somehow seem to keep pushing the AR-15 platform as if it's "special".

The lowly AK-47 still has the highest body count worldwide, the AR-15 is not even a close second ( not sure it's even in the top five..)...but you Yank's keep using it on your own folks, and try and close that gap.

 

[jaF0]

This thread ain't about the Riddenlouse.

 

[Rightguide]

Your denial is undermining your credibility. Very trumpian.

Alternative facts.

I've already decided your uneducated view of reality precludes any ability on your part to judge the credibility of others. In fact, any positive judgment of credibility on your part could more than likely be detrimental to the validity of a statement of facts being examined.

But they are "facts" just the same.

 

[AlexBailey]

I've already decided your uneducated view of reality precludes any ability on your part to judge the credibility of others. In fact, any positive judgment of credibility on your part could more than likely be detrimental to the validity of a statement of facts being examined.

But they are "facts" just the same.

Do you still believe Donald Trump is an honest man?

 

[Rightguide]

Do you still believe Donald Trump is an honest man?

I do believe Donald Trump is a good American who loves his country. I can't say the same for most of his Democrat and deep state enemies.

 

[ll74]

I do believe Donald Trump is a good American who loves his country. I can't say the same for most of his Democrat and deep state enemies.

So you don't believe he is an honest man.

Thanks for confirming

 

[jaF0]

This broad's nuttier than a Pecan plantation:

Marjorie Taylor Greene: Robert Crimo Shooting Was Part of Gun Control Plan​

The Georgia congresswoman has peddled other conspiracy theories in the past regarding Sandy Hook, Parkland and September 11.

 

[Rightguide]

This broad's nuttier than a Pecan plantation:

Marjorie Taylor Greene: Robert Crimo Shooting Was Part of Gun Control Plan​

The Georgia congresswoman has peddled other conspiracy theories in the past regarding Sandy Hook, Parkland and September 11.

In Richmond VA today another mass shooting conspiracy has just been stopped before it happened. It's getting harder and harder to ascribe these continuing criminal events to coincidence. There seems to be some organization to these occurrences. Maybe just copy cat events, but time will tell.

 

[ll74]

In Richmond VA today another mass shooting conspiracy has just been stopped before it happened. It's getting harder and harder to ascribe these continuing criminal events to coincidence. There seems to be some organization to these occurrences. Maybe just copy cat events, but time will tell.

Someone is brewing a conspiracy to combat conspiracy....brilliant!

 

[jaF0]

Cudda been another......

Police: July 4 mass shooting thwarted in Virginia’s capital​

By DENISE LAVOIE and SARAH RANKIN25 minutes ago
https://apnews.com/article/shootings-arrests-richmond-virginia-3eea153d36946090d16707f0928c029c
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Police in Richmond, Virginia, said Wednesday that they thwarted a planned July 4 mass shooting after receiving a tip that led to the arrest of two men and the seizure of multiple guns — an announcement that came just two days after a deadly mass shooting on the holiday in a Chicago suburb.




Plus, the Waldo doink was planning an encore in Madison.

 

[ll74]

Cudda been another......

Police: July 4 mass shooting thwarted in Virginia’s capital​

By DENISE LAVOIE and SARAH RANKIN25 minutes ago
https://apnews.com/article/shootings-arrests-richmond-virginia-3eea153d36946090d16707f0928c029c
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Police in Richmond, Virginia, said Wednesday that they thwarted a planned July 4 mass shooting after receiving a tip that led to the arrest of two men and the seizure of multiple guns — an announcement that came just two days after a deadly mass shooting on the holiday in a Chicago suburb.




Plus, the Waldo doink was planning an encore in Madison.

So they took guns away from people intending to use them which directly stopped mass shooting.

Interesting

 

[Rightguide]

Cudda been another......

Police: July 4 mass shooting thwarted in Virginia’s capital​

By DENISE LAVOIE and SARAH RANKIN25 minutes ago
https://apnews.com/article/shootings-arrests-richmond-virginia-3eea153d36946090d16707f0928c029c
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Police in Richmond, Virginia, said Wednesday that they thwarted a planned July 4 mass shooting after receiving a tip that led to the arrest of two men and the seizure of multiple guns — an announcement that came just two days after a deadly mass shooting on the holiday in a Chicago suburb.




Plus, the Waldo doink was planning an encore in Madison.

"Police initiated an investigation, along with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and FBI, which led to the arrests of two men on charges of being a non-U.S. citizen in possession of a firearm. Additional charges are possible, Smith said."

Thanks Joe. How many other terrorists have you let into the ocuntry?

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Thanks Joe. How many other terrorists have you let into the ocuntry?

You have no idea when or how they entered the country, you disingenuous old dipshit.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

You have no idea when or how they entered the country, you disingenuous old dipshit.

When has wrongway's lack of knowledge or of fact stopped him from posting?

 

[Rightguide]

Police flagged Highland Park shooter ‘clear and present danger’ in 2019; he later cleared 4 background checks​

Crimo successfully cleared four firearm purchase background checks between 2020 and 2021​

By Lawrence Richard | Fox News

https://www.foxnews.com/us/highland-park-shooter-flagged-clear-present-danger-2019

So what good are the laws?

 

[LukSkyFokker]

When has wrongway's lack of knowledge or of fact stopped him from posting?

Not a single fucking time, bro.

 

[ll74]

Police flagged Highland Park shooter ‘clear and present danger’ in 2019; he later cleared 4 background checks​

Crimo successfully cleared four firearm purchase background checks between 2020 and 2021​

By Lawrence Richard | Fox News

https://www.foxnews.com/us/highland-park-shooter-flagged-clear-present-danger-2019

So what good are the laws?

Yes, you have people that break laws as an example why laws don't work.

Do you also point to speeders to demonstrate why speed limits don't work?

 

[John_von_Neumann]

In Richmond VA today another mass shooting conspiracy has just been stopped before it happened. It's getting harder and harder to ascribe these continuing criminal events to coincidence. There seems to be some organization to these occurrences. Maybe just copy cat events, but time will tell.

I blame the behavior-controlling microchips Bill Gates put in all the Covid vaccines.

 

[KeithD]

Rightguard makes the case for going to the heart of the problem. Stop producing assault weapons beyond verified/closely controlled military orders, outlaw civilian possession of them, buy out/confiscate them, and put those who still are found with them in prison (in prison mental wards, if that will help Republicans cling to their position that it is a mental health issue. It's an issue of a third of Americans becoming rotten people, freed by the example of Donald Trump). The 2nd Amendment does not guarantee possession of rapid-kill assault weapons outside of regulated militia use anymore than it guarantees civilian possession of nuclear-tipped missiles. The 2nd Amendment does not establish the right of anyone to possess a rapid-kill assault weapon over anyone else's right to go into a church, school, grocery store, concert, theater, or attend a parade without getting their head shot off.

 

[AlexBailey]

In Richmond VA today another mass shooting conspiracy has just been stopped before it happened. It's getting harder and harder to ascribe these continuing criminal events to coincidence. There seems to be some organization to these occurrences. Maybe just copy cat events, but time will tell.

I completely agree. There seems to be a continuing escalation of threats and violence against U.S. citizens yet all efforts to address the issue are being thwarted by one political party who is being supported by profiteers of the gun industry. Someone should look into that.