Tucker Carlson hits a new low

[pecksniff]

Hispanics in Latin America are descended from immigrants from Spain and Portugal. There’s nothing “third world” about them.

Well, they're mostly descended from Indians. And during the Cold War, LA was considered Third World -- First World was the industrialized democracies, Second World was the Communist bloc, Third World was everything else.

 

[pecksniff]

Negroes in Europe have much higher crime rates than whites.

Cite?

 

[pecksniff]

Fallaciousness is in the eyes of the beholder.

No, that's not how it works.

 

[PaxNurgle]

The shooter himself says he was radicalized by the left.

He was radicalized by his hatred of and extreme anti-left views, so in an oblique sense you could argue that he was "radicalized by the left" but really, he was radicalized by his reaction to the left (just like a violent anarchist can use the same logic to say they were "Radicalized by the right.")
In this case, it was the far right who inspired the shooter to action. Really "The left" had nothing to do with him or his actions.

 

[Dribble]

Anyone been to Mississippi lately? Or Alabama? That...is Third World. Costa Rica is way more developed.

 

[schism666]

Anyone been to Mississippi lately? Or Alabama? That...is Third World. Costa Rica is way more developed.

are their piggly wiggly's nicer?

 

[pecksniff]

are their piggly wiggly's nicer?

Believe it or not, I've seen some stores, apparently chain, named "Hogly Wogly."

 

[JohnEngelman]

Cite?

If European countries record racial differences in participation in the criminals justice system, the emphasis is on incarceration rate rather than crime rate. A much higher percentage of blacks are in prison than whites. This leads to the politically correct delusion that the criminal justice system is racially biased, but that blacks and whites are equally guilty of crimes.

According to the U.S. Department of Justice Office of Justice Programs Bureau of Justice Statistics blacks in the United States have a murder rate that is nearly eight times the white murder rate.

https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

According to the United Nations Office of Drugs and Crime black and Hispanic countries nearly always have significantly higher murder rates than white and Oriental countries.

Nevertheless, 'The regions and subregions in the table are based on the United Nations geoscheme since the table sources are United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) reports. The U.N. recognizes that variabilities in the quality and integrity of data provided by certain countries may minimize country murder rates.[21][2]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

If a black run, black majority country reports a lower murder rate than many white countries, It is reasonable to question the data.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

The kid was a radicalized white nationalist from 4chan. He preached the same things as klanguide and retard rube.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Believe it or not, I've seen some stores, apparently chain, named "Hogly Wogly."

I prefer Chunky Cheese.

 

[pecksniff]

If European countries record racial differences in participation in the criminals justice system, the emphasis is on incarceration rate rather than crime rate. A much higher percentage of blacks are in prison than whites.

Cite for that?

 

[JohnEngelman]

Cite for that?

Homicide rates in England and Wales 2011-2021, by ethnicity​

Published by D. Clark, Feb 10, 2022
Between 2018 and 2021, the homicide rate for people of the black ethnic group was 50.5 homicides per million population in England and Wales, far higher than that of the white ethnic group, which was 8.5 victims per million population for the same time period.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1214177/homicide-rates-in-england-and-wales-by-ethnicity/

 

[icanhelp1]

He was radicalized by his hatred of and extreme anti-left views, so in an oblique sense you could argue that he was "radicalized by the left" but really, he was radicalized by his reaction to the left (just like a violent anarchist can use the same logic to say they were "Radicalized by the right.")
In this case, it was the far right who inspired the shooter to action. Really "The left" had nothing to do with him or his actions.

So let me see if I can get this right, pardon me as my eyes water.

He was radicalized by his hatred *OF* *AND* extreme anti left views? So, wouldn't that make him left who hated the extreme right?? What exactly are extreme anti left views? So his hatred for extreme anti left views would mean that he hated anyone with a deep hatred of the left and you're peddling that extreme anti left views are views from the extreme right. So what you're professing from this word salad of yours is his hatred for the extreme right views made him go berserk and somehow you justify his evil behavior because he was mad at the right, so, because the extreme right exist the right is to blame. So him being a lefty with a gun has nothing to do with the left, that he was inspired by the right just because? So who's on first and what's on second.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Homicide rates in England and Wales 2011-2021, by ethnicity​

Published by D. Clark, Feb 10, 2022
Between 2018 and 2021, the homicide rate for people of the black ethnic group was 50.5 homicides per million population in England and Wales, far higher than that of the white ethnic group, which was 8.5 victims per million population for the same time period.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1214177/homicide-rates-in-england-and-wales-by-ethnicity/

You really don't understand statistics now do you?

From your link btw...

"There were 600 homicides recorded in England and Wales in 2020/21, a fall of 116 when compared with the previous reporting year, when there were 716 homicides. Between 2002/03 and 2013/14 the number of homicides in England and Wales fell significantly, from 1047, to just 533."

Best check what exactly google pops up for you when make a search eh?

There are a lot of other numbers in there that poke holes in your "theory". *chuckles*

 

[JohnEngelman]

You really don't understand statistics now do you?

You do not understand statistics; you do not understand intractable racial differences in characteristics civilizations and societies need to succeed; you are unable to argue rationally. All I get from you are insults and name calling.

 

[Sean Renaud]

So let me see if I can get this right, pardon me as my eyes water.

He was radicalized by his hatred *OF* *AND* extreme anti left views? So, wouldn't that make him left who hated the extreme right?? What exactly are extreme anti left views? So his hatred for extreme anti left views would mean that he hated anyone with a deep hatred of the left and you're peddling that extreme anti left views are views from the extreme right. So what you're professing from this word salad of yours is his hatred for the extreme right views made him go berserk and somehow you justify his evil behavior because he was mad at the right, so, because the extreme right exist the right is to blame. So him being a lefty with a gun has nothing to do with the left, that he was inspired by the right just because? So who's on first and what's on second.

Why do you have such a hard time understanding basic English? This isn't complex.
The young man hates the extreme left (a thing that doesn't exist in the US to an appreciable amount) so you could blame the victims here. Like if Jews weren't running a lot of the banks in the early 20th century the Nazis wouldn't have rounded them up and gassed them. There would have been no reason.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

You do not understand statistics; you do not understand intractable racial differences in characteristics civilizations and societies need to succeed; you are unable to argue rationally. All I get from you are insults and name calling.

Hey your the dipshit running around claiming your assertions are facts.

Then when called out on it, pull up a google search link that doesn't back your assertions. Further, you are too stupid to even recognise that you have shot your own foot, trying to prove your assertions are in fact....fact...*chuckles*.

You obviously have a minimal understanding of mathematics.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Hey your the dipshit running around claiming your assertions are facts.

Then when called out on it, pull up a google search link that doesn't back your assertions. Further, you are too stupid to even recognise that you have shot your own foot, trying to prove your assertions are in fact....fact...*chuckles*.

You obviously have a minimal understanding of mathematics.

You make assertions without proving them.

What is wrong with these statistics?

U.S. Department of Justice Office of Justice Programs Bureau of Justice Statistics November 2011

Based on available data from 1980 to 2008—  Blacks were disproportionately represented as both homicide victims and offenders. The victimization rate for blacks (27.8 per 100,000) was 6 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000). The offending rate for blacks (34.4 per 100,000) was almost 8 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000)
https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

And these?

=========================
2006 College & University
Guidance, Scholarships, Money and Info Gateways
(For Students, Parents, College Advisors, Mentors,
and Cultural Groups)
==========================

​

SAT and ACT Scores by Race/Ethnicity: 2003

In recent years the noted pattern of test scores has reflected similar numbers--
Editor, 2005

SAT Ethnic Group Scores (Math/Verbal+total)

• American Indian---482/480 (962)
• Asian American-----575/508 (1083)
• African American-----426/431 (857)
• Puerto Rican----457/448 (905)

Other Hispanic----464/457 (921)

• White-----534/529 (1063)
• Other ----513/501 (1014)

Source: www.collegeboard.com

Average ACT Composite Score by Race/Ethnicity, 2003
----------------------------------------------------

• African American ----16.9
• American Indian---18.7
• Caucasian---- 21.7
• Mexican American----18.3
• Asian American---- 21.8
• Hispanic----19.0
• Other ----19.3
• Multiracial-----20.9
• Prefer Not to Respond -----21.8
• No Response-----20.1

Source: www.act.org

Quote from attached SAT/ACT article:

"Readiness for college science and math coursework was particularly low among
African American students. Only 5 percent of African American test-takers scored
at or above the college-readiness benchmark for college biology, and just 10
percent attained the readiness benchmark for college algebra. Ferguson said
Black students were less likely than others to take tough, college-prep courses
and "often don't receive the information and guidance they need to properly plan
for college."

For overview and more info, go to:
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m0DXK/15_20/109265562/p1/article.jhtml

http://www.blackexcel.org/06-sat-act-scores-by-race-ethnicity.htm

And these?

Percentage of Births to Unmarried Women​

ROGER CLEGG FEBRUARY 26, 2020

Late last year, the final data for 2018 were published here (the key is Table 9 on page 25), and here’s what we learn: For all racial and ethnic groups combined, 39.6 percent of births in the United States were out-of-wedlock (incidentally, isn’t that appalling?). And there was as always a tremendous range among groups. For blacks, the number is 69.4 percent; for American Indians/Alaska Natives, 68.2 percent (Native Hawaiians/Other Pacific Islanders were at 50.4 percent); for Hispanics, 51.8 percent; for whites, 28.2 percent; and for Asian Americans, a paltry 11.7 percent.
https://www.ceousa.org/2020/02/26/percentage-of-births-to-unmarried-women/

 

[Chobham]

You make assertions without proving them.

What is wrong with these statistics?

U.S. Department of Justice Office of Justice Programs Bureau of Justice Statistics November 2011

Based on available data from 1980 to 2008—  Blacks were disproportionately represented as both homicide victims and offenders. The victimization rate for blacks (27.8 per 100,000) was 6 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000). The offending rate for blacks (34.4 per 100,000) was almost 8 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000)
https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

And these?

=========================
2006 College & University
Guidance, Scholarships, Money and Info Gateways
(For Students, Parents, College Advisors, Mentors,
and Cultural Groups)
==========================

​

SAT and ACT Scores by Race/Ethnicity: 2003

In recent years the noted pattern of test scores has reflected similar numbers--
Editor, 2005

SAT Ethnic Group Scores (Math/Verbal+total)

• American Indian---482/480 (962)
• Asian American-----575/508 (1083)
• African American-----426/431 (857)
• Puerto Rican----457/448 (905)

Other Hispanic----464/457 (921)

• White-----534/529 (1063)
• Other ----513/501 (1014)

Source: www.collegeboard.com

Average ACT Composite Score by Race/Ethnicity, 2003
----------------------------------------------------

• African American ----16.9
• American Indian---18.7
• Caucasian---- 21.7
• Mexican American----18.3
• Asian American---- 21.8
• Hispanic----19.0
• Other ----19.3
• Multiracial-----20.9
• Prefer Not to Respond -----21.8
• No Response-----20.1

Source: www.act.org

Quote from attached SAT/ACT article:

"Readiness for college science and math coursework was particularly low among
African American students. Only 5 percent of African American test-takers scored
at or above the college-readiness benchmark for college biology, and just 10
percent attained the readiness benchmark for college algebra. Ferguson said
Black students were less likely than others to take tough, college-prep courses
and "often don't receive the information and guidance they need to properly plan
for college."

For overview and more info, go to:
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m0DXK/15_20/109265562/p1/article.jhtml

http://www.blackexcel.org/06-sat-act-scores-by-race-ethnicity.htm

And these?

Percentage of Births to Unmarried Women​

ROGER CLEGG FEBRUARY 26, 2020

Late last year, the final data for 2018 were published here (the key is Table 9 on page 25), and here’s what we learn: For all racial and ethnic groups combined, 39.6 percent of births in the United States were out-of-wedlock (incidentally, isn’t that appalling?). And there was as always a tremendous range among groups. For blacks, the number is 69.4 percent; for American Indians/Alaska Natives, 68.2 percent (Native Hawaiians/Other Pacific Islanders were at 50.4 percent); for Hispanics, 51.8 percent; for whites, 28.2 percent; and for Asian Americans, a paltry 11.7 percent.
https://www.ceousa.org/2020/02/26/percentage-of-births-to-unmarried-women/

You're conflating two different issues.

First of all the best crime stats are at the FBI's UCR (Unified Crime Reporting) web site. It's not that the DOJ's numbers are wrong, it's just that they lack detail.

Regarding SAT and ACT scores, they are a real time reflection of the state of our public education system, not a racial indictment.

SAT and ACT tests interrogate the testee as to what they should have already learned. This is in contrast to IQ tests that are designed to confront the testee with new and novel problems to solve.

PM me.

 

[PaxNurgle]

So let me see if I can get this right, pardon me as my eyes water.

He was radicalized by his hatred *OF* *AND* extreme anti left views? So, wouldn't that make him left who hated the extreme right?? What exactly are extreme anti left views? So his hatred for extreme anti left views would mean that he hated anyone with a deep hatred of the left and you're peddling that extreme anti left views are views from the extreme right. So what you're professing from this word salad of yours is his hatred for the extreme right views made him go berserk and somehow you justify his evil behavior because he was mad at the right, so, because the extreme right exist the right is to blame. So him being a lefty with a gun has nothing to do with the left, that he was inspired by the right just because? So who's on first and what's on second.

I was actually struggling to understand here, what Rightguide meant when he said he was "Radicalized by the left."

Because that makes even less sense to me. The things he was preaching- racial hatred, white nationalism, anti-semitism- these things are not being promoted by the left. These views that he adopted were not taken from left-leaning websites. So- my point was, Rightguide's post made no sense, so I was struggling to make some kind of sense in what he said.

But then again, Rightguide rarely makes any kind of coherent sense, so there is that.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

You make assertions without proving them.

What is wrong with these statistics?

U.S. Department of Justice Office of Justice Programs Bureau of Justice Statistics November 2011

Based on available data from 1980 to 2008—  Blacks were disproportionately represented as both homicide victims and offenders. The victimization rate for blacks (27.8 per 100,000) was 6 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000). The offending rate for blacks (34.4 per 100,000) was almost 8 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000)
https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

But I am not making assertions, you are. For example in this particular thread, the point in contention is about Blacks in the EU. So when your "link" failed to prove what you claim, and I point this failure out. You come back with an American statistic?

Like really,are you that fucking stupid?

 

[ll74]

Misappropriation of data is the topic. That's actually a good word to use for touvies go-to horseshit.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1526985711282446337

 

[JohnEngelman]

You're conflating two different issues.

First of all the best crime stats are at the FBI's UCR (Unified Crime Reporting) web site. It's not that the DOJ's numbers are wrong, it's just that they lack detail.

Regarding SAT and ACT scores, they are a real time reflection of the state of our public education system, not a racial indictment.

SAT and ACT tests interrogate the testee as to what they should have already learned. This is in contrast to IQ tests that are designed to confront the testee with new and novel problems to solve.

PM me.

SAT and ACT scores are not IQ scores, but the correlate closely with IQ scores.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Its amazing how white supremacists hate Jesse Jackson until they find a quote he may or may not have said that agree with their twisted world view.

 

[Rightguide]

The Fascists and Nazis were defined by being anti-Communist reactionaries, and would not have existed had there been no Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. That does not make Communists to blame for their existence.

He claimed he was a communist.