What's wrong with American elections

[pecksniff]

If you really care about what's wrong with our election systems, read The Voting Wars by election lawyer Richard Hasen. He diagnoses the problem: The elections are (1) hyperfederalized -- run at the county level; even a state Secretary of State has only limited oversight; and (2) partisan -- the elected county supervisors of elections are partisan officials.

He devotes a whole chapter to "The Fraudulent Fraud Squad" -- those who insist voter fraud is a real problem when not even they believe it.

 

[BidudeinWi]

Simple, LibFucks cheating!

 

[YDB95]

Simple, LibFucks cheating!

And doing such an incredible job of it that not a scintilla of evidence to that end has emerged in a year and a half!

 

[BluesDriver66]

If you really care about what's wrong with our election systems, read The Voting Wars by election lawyer Richard Hasen. He diagnoses the problem: The elections are (1) hyperfederalized -- run at the county level; even a state Secretary of State has only limited oversight; and (2) partisan -- the elected county supervisors of elections are partisan officials.

He devotes a whole chapter to "The Fraudulent Fraud Squad" -- those who insist voter fraud is a real problem when not even they believe it.

Sounds like a bunch of inside the beltway horse shit that focuses on the symptoms and not the problem. As with the vast majority of any issue in the world of business or politics if you really want to know what's going on you follow the money.

 

[BidudeinWi]

And doing such an incredible job of it that not a scintilla of evidence to that end has emerged in a year and a half!

You’re a fucking idiot with your head buried so far up your own ass you can look out your own mouth! Can’t fix stupid!

 

[pecksniff]

Sounds like a bunch of inside the beltway horse shit that focuses on the symptoms and not the problem. As with the vast majority of any issue in the world of business or politics if you really want to know what's going on you follow the money.

The book does not address the role of money in elections. That would take a whole other book. And several such have been published.

 

[BidudeinWi]

The book does not address the role of money in elections. That would take a whole other book. And several such have been published.

Yup, like this one: “Joe Biden Unauthorized: And the 2020 Crackup of the Democratic Party!”

 

[YDB95]

Can’t fix stupid!

How right you are, for once.

 

[Tigersman]

The first and largest problem is what the Republican controlled states endorse and have been doing wholesale, gerrymandering to guarantee their candidates get elected or re-elected. The second problem is all the "election security laws" that the Republican controlled states have passed which are nothing more than voter suppression laws. The third thing is all the money that is being contributed by corporations and PACS.

 

[Champakian]

Can you give us a date certain when they went wrong?

 

[Champakian]

OMG!!!

lo-fucking-l!

I am shocked, SHOCKED! to find that Democrats never gerrymander...
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Democrat born. Democrat bred. Libertarian led (by Democrats).

 

[Chobham]

It's interesting to watch how the more loopholes in election procedures are closed, the louder the democrats bleat.

 

[Champakian]

Yeah, loopholes like no picture ID, just your word of "honor..."
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Democrat born. Democrat bred. Libertarian led (by Democrats).

 

[Dribble]

The two party system is a failure. You have the Democrat Party and the Republican Fascist Party

 

[Champakian]

Should we add our own adjectives where none are provided?

The Democrat Soviet Party perhaps?

 

[Chobham]

The only Fascist/Dictators I see are on the "progressive" side of the aisle. From the local school boards all the way up to the top.

 

[Champakian]

IDs? IDs? We don't need no stinkin' IDs!
You will neither suppress our votes or protect yours.

MAJORITY RULES and you just hate that we can generate more votes.

 

[Dribble]

The only Fascist/Dictators I see are on the "progressive" side of the aisle. From the local school boards all the way up to the top.

Coming from a Fascist traitor like yourself....I expect nothing less

 

[Champakian]

The Grand Soviet has spoken.

Behind him burns the Holy Hammer and Sickle...

 

[BidudeinWi]

The first and largest problem is what the Republican controlled states endorse and have been doing wholesale, gerrymandering to guarantee their candidates get elected or re-elected. The second problem is all the "election security laws" that the Republican controlled states have passed which are nothing more than voter suppression laws. The third thing is all the money that is being contributed by corporations and PACS.

Oh please! The LibFucks are beating the GOP to death in “Gerrymandering!” Read the news for fucks sake!

 

[KeithD]

Panicked, grasping, dishonest Republicans is what's wrong with U.S. elections.

 

[pecksniff]

It's interesting to watch how the more loopholes in election procedures are closed, the louder the democrats bleat.

What "loopholes"?

 

[pecksniff]

IDs? IDs? We don't need no stinkin' IDs!
You will neither suppress our votes or protect yours.

MAJORITY RULES and you just hate that we can generate more votes.

You do not care about "voter fraud" or "election integrity." Nobody who demands voter-ID laws really cares about those things. All you want is to erect hurdles that are statistically more difficult for poor people and POC to jump over. You can't get away with poll taxes or literacy tests or property qualifications any more, so that's what you've come up with.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Just your honor? I guess if you paid the mailman you MIGHT be using just your honor but otherwise not so much.

 

[KeithD]

I believe voters should have valid ID to vote. But I also believe the system should make sure eligible citizens can get registered and obtain usable photo ID.