NC Supreme court rejects gerrymandered redistricing

[butters]

The North Carolina Supreme Court on Friday struck down the state's new Republican-drawn congressional and legislative maps, giving Democrats one of their most consequential redistricting legal victories ahead of the 2022 midterm elections.

In a 4-3 decision, the court said that the current maps were illegal partisan gerrymanders that violated the state's constitution, calling the congressional and state legislative maps enacted by the legislature "unconstitutional beyond a reasonable doubt under the free elections clause, the equal protection clause, the free speech clause, and the freedom of assembly clause of the North Carolina Constitution."

The ruling continued: "When, on the basis of partisanship, the General Assembly enacts a districting plan that diminishes or dilutes a voter's opportunity to aggregate with likeminded voters to elect a governing majority — that is, when a districting plan systematically makes it harder for one group of voters to elect a governing majority than another group of voters of equal size — the General Assembly unconstitutionally infringes upon that voter's fundamental right to vote."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...g-maps-in-4-3-ruling/ar-AATvxFC?ocid=msedgntp

Back in 2010, during President Obama's first mid-terms, partially due to aggressive redistricting, dems lost 63 seats in the House, effectively wiping out their majority, and ceded a further 680 legislative seats to reps. This redistricting stuff is important bananas.

 

[pecksniff]

Good news indeed, considering the way election-related matters usually go in NC.

 

[Chernosoth]

This is a year to gain ground. Gerrymandering is digging in on old ground.

 

[YDB95]

The Republicans basically maxed themselves out on gerrymandering in 2010. They're out of fresh ground for that this year, and it just might save the Dems' majority.

 

[Rightguide]

In another matter of redistricting so close to Butter's heart:


Supreme Court allows Alabama to use Republican-drawn congressional map
The decision was 5-4, with Chief Justice Roberts siding with the three liberal judges.

By Madeleine Hubbard
Updated: February 7, 2022 - 5:55pm

https://justthenews.com/government/...labama-use-republican-drawn-congressional-map

 

[pecksniff]

We should do what the Canadians do: Let nonpartisan civil servants draw the district lines (or "ridings," as they call them there).

 

[Dribble]

We should do what the Canadians do: Let nonpartisan civil servants draw the district lines (or "ridings," as they call them there).

And they should be drawn within 10% of the smallest perimeter possible to reflect those living within the area

 

[Rightguide]

We should do what the Canadians do: Let nonpartisan civil servants draw the district lines (or "ridings," as they call them there).

No, we shouldn't. We should do what's required under our Constitution requires, that being letting the people decide through their elected representatives. If you like the Canadian method of government, move there.

 

[pecksniff]

No, we shouldn't. We should do what's required under our Constitution requires, that being letting the people decide through their elected representatives. If you like the Canadian method of government, move there.

Any state can adopt the Canadian districting system or something like it, there's nothing against that in the Constitution. There have, in fact, been several recent state-level petition drives to that effect. (There would have been such a referendum in Florida, the drive got enough petition signatures, but the state supreme court shot it down on a technicality.)

 

[Rightguide]

Any state can adopt the Canadian districting system or something like it, there's nothing against that in the Constitution. There have, in fact, been several recent state-level petition drives to that effect. (There would have been such a referendum in Florida, the drive got enough petition signatures, but the state supreme court shot it down on a technicality.)

Move to Canada.

 

[pecksniff]

Move to Canada.

Druther Canadize the U.S.

 

[pecksniff]

No, we shouldn't. We should do what's required under our Constitution requires, that being letting the people decide through their elected representatives. If you like the Canadian method of government, move there.

It is telling, and should make you deeply ashamed, that you can come up with no better defense of the American redistricting-by-partisan-legislature system than "that's how we do it here," and no better criticism of the Canadian redistricting-by-civil-service system than "that's not how we do it here."

 

[YDB95]

Long term, this will probably hurt the Republicans. They got a LOT of mileage back in the '90s out of legalized gerrymandering that created as many majority-Black districts as possible, which in turn made all the other districts in a given state whiter and more Republican. This takes that strategy back off the table for the time being, if not for good.

 

[BidudeinWi]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...g-maps-in-4-3-ruling/ar-AATvxFC?ocid=msedgntp

Back in 2010, during President Obama's first mid-terms, partially due to aggressive redistricting, dems lost 63 seats in the House, effectively wiping out their majority, and ceded a further 680 legislative seats to reps. This redistricting stuff is important bananas.

Yet NOT A WORD about the LibFucks doing the same! What a fucking hypocrite! TOTAL lack of self-awareness! Douche! Go back to fucking bullwinkle land!

 

[RobDownSouth]

Druther Canadize the U.S.

If Canada conquers the USA, we'll all be sorry.

 

[pecksniff]

If Canada conquers the USA, we'll all be sorry.

But then we get single-payer health care out of the deal -- and FBI agents would have to dress up like Dudley Do-Right! It's worth it!

 

[Lazaran]

In another matter of redistricting so close to Butter's heart:


Supreme Court allows Alabama to use Republican-drawn congressional map
The decision was 5-4, with Chief Justice Roberts siding with the three liberal judges.

By Madeleine Hubbard
Updated: February 7, 2022 - 5:55pm

https://justthenews.com/government/...labama-use-republican-drawn-congressional-map

A lower court ruled unanimoisly that the Alabama gerrymandering was likely racially discriminatory, but the SCOTUS overruled them in a baltantly partisan manner.

#midtermsmatter

And "not" racists wonder why cities burn.

JFC

SAD!!!

 

[YDB95]

Yet NOT A WORD about the LibFucks doing the same! What a fucking hypocrite! TOTAL lack of self-awareness! Douche! Go back to fucking bullwinkle land!

Look at who was in charge just after the 2010 elections: the Dems had no opportunities to do the same. That's why it wasn't mentioned: it didn't happen, because it couldn't happen.

 

[pecksniff]

Of course, we could cut this whole knot by replacing single-member-district representation with proportional representation.

 

[YDB95]

Of course, we could cut this whole knot by replacing single-member-district representation with proportional representation.

That'd be ripe for abuse, too. It's only a question of how.

 

[pecksniff]

That'd be ripe for abuse, too. It's only a question of how.

PR has been tried in other countries and does present problems, mainly having to do with stability -- but none having to do with "abuse."