California moves to dismantle nation’s largest death row

[SugarDaddy1]

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California Gov. Gavin Newsom, who three years ago placed a moratorium on executions, now is moving to dismantle the nation’s largest death row by moving all condemned inmates to other prisons within two years.

The goal is to turn the section at San Quentin State Prison into a “positive, healing environment.”

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[pecksniff]

You're actually complaining about this?!

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Fiction in the '80s, documentary in the 2020's:

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[pecksniff]

You're all aware, I hope, that the death penalty does nothing at all to deter crime, except one criminal at a time.

 

[Rightguide]

He's acting against the will of the people in CA.

 

[pecksniff]

He's acting against the will of the people in CA.

What makes you think they want that Death Row preserved?

 

[Rightguide]

What makes you think they want that Death Row preserved?

Because the people of CA voted for an election proposition (prop 62) in 2016 to repeal the death penalty, it was defeated by a 53% no vote. Another Proposition (prop 66) i8n 2016 was placed before the voters to speed up the execution process and it passed as well. Newsom has been in violation of state law on the subject since taking office. He unilaterally declared a moratorium on the death penalty when he took office and admitted he wasn't man enough to carry out the duties of his office in doing so. The fraud is still in office, but he isn't my Governor any longer. Hopefully, the people of CA will try him and put his ass in the gas chamber someday.

 

[Rightguide]

You're all aware, I hope, that the death penalty does nothing at all to deter crime, except one criminal at a time.

Yeah it does, pussy. It prevents recidivism.

 

[pecksniff]

BNewsom has been in violation of state law on the subject since taking office. He unilaterally declared a moratorium on the death penalty when he took office . . .

How would that be in violation of state law? Nobody in any state ever gets executed without the governor signing a death warrant -- it's always within his discretion. So is a complete pardon.

 

[Rightguide]

How would that be in violation of state law? Nobody in any state ever gets executed without the governor signing a death warrant -- it's always within his discretion. So is a complete pardon.

Not to the extent he did. He's taking down the whole apparatus. It is not within his discretion to ignore the law and not carry it out.

 

[pecksniff]

Not to the extent he did. He's taking down the whole apparatus. It is not within his discretion to ignore the law and not carry it out.

Of course it is. Any governor could do what he's doing, even in Texas.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I'm happy about it for one, and really something getting voted on in one direction or another has oddly little to do with the will of the people unfortunately. Not that everything should be left up to the people anyhow.

Also it doesn't do shit to deter crime, not even really one at a time. Life w/o Parole is just fine. This isn't a Batman Comic where people get back out on the regular and honestly if you look at homocide stats most of those people would never kill again regardless.

 

[pecksniff]

I once heard the late criminal defense attorney F. Lee Bailey on the college lecture circuit. He said that in his experience, there are three kinds of murderers:

1. Profit-driven career criminals.

2. Ordinarily law-abiding citizens who on some one occasion lose their temper.

3. Crazies.

Obviously no "deterrent" can apply to the latter two. As for the first, they live dangerous lives anyway -- more likely to die at the hand of a business rival than the state. The death penalty means nothing to them.

 

[Sean Renaud]

#2 is called to fuck behind my back.

 

[GothTalk]

Cool, the death penalty is bullshit.