Multiple additions to reading list

[geronimo_appleby]

It’s happened a few times now. I’ve noticed a user adding multiple scenes to their reading list in quick succession. No problem with it. I’m just curious as to why. Wouldn’t the faves tool be more efficient?

Are they adding to a reading list so they don’t lose track of what they have and have not read?

Anyone else noticed this?

Have thoughts?

 

[NotWise]

It’s happened a few times now. I’ve noticed a user adding multiple scenes to their reading list in quick succession. No problem with it. I’m just curious as to why. Wouldn’t the faves tool be more efficient?

Are they adding to a reading list so they don’t lose track of what they have and have not read?

Anyone else noticed this?

Have thoughts?

I think time spent speculating on why readers do things is time spent poorly.

 

[oggbashan]

I have had this as well. But usually only twice per story. I assumed that the click didn't appear to have been recorded so they did it again.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

I think time spent speculating on why readers do things is time spent poorly.

i have time.

 

[MelissaBaby]

It’s happened a few times now. I’ve noticed a user adding multiple scenes to their reading list in quick succession. No problem with it. I’m just curious as to why. Wouldn’t the faves tool be more efficient?

Are they adding to a reading list so they don’t lose track of what they have and have not read?

Anyone else noticed this?

Have thoughts?

I figure they don't favorite it because they haven't read it yet, but they want to bookmark it for later. Why they would do it to multiple chapters in the same series, I don't know.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

I figure they don't favorite it because they haven't read it yet, but they want to bookmark it for later. Why they would do it to multiple chapters in the same series, I don't know.

not in any series as in multi-part stories, in series as in one scene after the other.

i did wonder if it’s a bot or some such-harvesting for another site.

lit stories turn up on other sites after being lifted.

a possibility.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

There's someone who, every three, four weeks, adds one of my stories to his/her reading list; the same story, every time.

Those notifications of people adding my stories to their reading lists have no added value for me; I never hear back from them.

there’s a story there.

sorry, i’ll get me coat…

 

[JuanSeiszFitzHall]

I’ve noticed that, in the last month or so, what was referred to on my home page as a ‘favorite,’ but with a bookmark icon, is now shown as an addition to a reading list, with the bookmark icon. If this is a step towards an end to the confusion of two things under the term ‘favorite,’ I’d see it as an improvement. As for multiple instances, I’d see it as (1) a reader not being sure the request went through, and thus requesting again, or (2) just a hiccup in the system, like when the New roll lists a story at the bottom of one page and also at the top of the next.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

I’ve noticed that, in the last month or so, what was referred to on my home page as a ‘favorite,’ but with a bookmark icon, is now shown as an addition to a reading list, with the bookmark icon. If this is a step towards an end to the confusion of two things under the term ‘favorite,’ I’d see it as an improvement. As for multiple instances, I’d see it as (1) a reader not being sure the request went through, and thus requesting again, or (2) just a hiccup in the system, like when the New roll lists a story at the bottom of one page and also at the top of the next.

no, it’s different stories added by the same user one after the other. ten or twenty at a time.

 

[karaline]

Okay, I'm a bit confused.

I'm labouring under the impression that I can when people add my stories/chapters as favourites, but I didn't think I got a notification when they add one to a reading list.

Is this not correct? Because you guys seem to be talking about being able to see when both of these things happen

thanks

 

[geronimo_appleby]

Okay, I'm a bit confused.

I'm labouring under the impression that I can when people add my stories/chapters as favourites, but I didn't think I got a notification when they add one to a reading list.

Is this not correct? Because you guys seem to be talking about being able to see when both of these things happen

thanks

they’re one and the same.

 

[SimonDoom]

Okay, I'm a bit confused.

I'm labouring under the impression that I can when people add my stories/chapters as favourites, but I didn't think I got a notification when they add one to a reading list.

Is this not correct? Because you guys seem to be talking about being able to see when both of these things happen

thanks

Yes, you get notification for both. It's a little confusing, because the message says "Blank has added your story to a reading list," but there are two kinds of reading lists, bookmarks and favorites, and you can tell the difference by the icon to the left of the message. But what makes it doubly confusing is, for me at least, I see a lot more bookmark icons than favorite icons, but that's not consistent with what I think I'm seeing in the Download Stats. So it may be that when readers finish a story, and if they add it to a favorites list, there's no new notification. But I'm not sure.

 

[karaline]

Yes, you get notification for both. It's a little confusing, because the message says "Blank has added your story to a reading list," but there are two kinds of reading lists, bookmarks and favorites, and you can tell the difference by the icon to the left of the message. But what makes it doubly confusing is, for me at least, I see a lot more bookmark icons than favorite icons, but that's not consistent with what I think I'm seeing in the Download Stats. So it may be that when readers finish a story, and if they add it to a favorites list, there's no new notification. But I'm not sure.

Thanks! I just checked on my dash board (is that what its called?), and I can see the different icons. I've also noticed you can see the total number of bookmarks when you're story appears in lists on the site (such as tag searches) and I usually have higher bookmark numbers than faves.

 

[SimonDoom]

Thanks! I just checked on my dash board (is that what its called?), and I can see the different icons. I've also noticed you can see the total number of bookmarks when you're story appears in lists on the site (such as tag searches) and I usually have higher bookmark numbers than faves.

I could be wrong about this, but I think the number next to the list icon actually is the sum of favorites and bookmarks. That makes sense to me because the lists number is always bigger than the favorites number, but never that much bigger, and it makes no sense that it would be bigger because bookmarks haven't been around that long and favorites have been around as long as I have been writing here (I think).

 

[lovecraft68]

This reading list...this is different from a fav, right?

Meaning now the fav stat is going to go down?

If so then last year we had comments dropping because of site changes, now the fav stat this year?

 

[TadOverdon]

They're just adding the chapters that have stuff that gets them off.

 

[NotWise]

This reading list...this is different from a fav, right?

Meaning now the fav stat is going to go down?

If so then last year we had comments dropping because of site changes, now the fav stat this year?

The reading list feature has been there for a few years. I imagine that its already done whatever damage it will do.

I really don't get the division between favs and lists. I've seen announcements that someone added a story to a list, complete with the bookmark icon, and still had an increment in favorites. I think I've seen the announcement that someone favorited a story or added it to a list with the heart icon, and didn't see it added to favorites.

Lots of people like the favorites count as feedback, but I'm not sure we know what it means.

 

[lovecraft68]

The reading list feature has been there for a few years. I imagine that its already done whatever damage it will do.

I really don't get the division between favs and lists. I've seen announcements that someone added a story to a list, complete with the bookmark icon, and still had an increment in favorites. I think I've seen the announcement that someone favorited a story or added it to a list with the heart icon, and didn't see it added to favorites.

Lots of people like the favorites count as feedback, but I'm not sure we know what it means.

I only just started seeing the "so and so added to their reading list" a couple of days ago.

The 'fav' shows up as a measurable stat. There's a top 250 most faved story list. So if the reader now has an either or-or both- choice, the amount of favs will go down.

Considering there was already the fav as a way to bookmark a story I have no idea why the reading list was created, its redundant.

 

[Djmac1031]

I've had it happen with my series a few times, but I was assuming they were adding each chapter to Favorites after they'd read it then moved on to the next.

Which is nice if that's the case, because it showed my story held their interest long enough to read through several chapters in one sitting

 

[geronimo_appleby]

I only just started seeing the "so and so added to their reading list" a couple of days ago.

The 'fav' shows up as a measurable stat. There's a top 250 most faved story list. So if the reader now has an either or-or both- choice, the amount of favs will go down.

Considering there was already the fav as a way to bookmark a story I have no idea why the reading list was created, its redundant.

i think a scene/story fave doesn't count towards the 250. it seems to be when you're added as a fave author which adds to the stats there: you're 4th ... i'm 49th, so there's obviously bias involved.

 

[Candy_Kane54]

When I come across a story that looks interesting but I don't have time to read it right now, I'll bookmark it to read later. Then, when I go ahead and read it, if I like it and think it's worthy of being re-read again, I'll make it a Favorite. However, when you mark it as a favorite after you've already bookmarked it, it doesn't automatically remove the bookmark. If you don't make the conscious effort to go back and remove the bookmark, you now have the story in both your Favorites and Read Later lists.

It's possible that once bookmarked for Read Later, the reader may never need to favorite it because it's always in their Read Later list if they want to read it again.

I'm sure some readers Favorite every story they read, whether they liked it or not, just to have them marked so that when they come across the story later while searching or scrolling through the Random Stories lists, they won't waste time opening a story they've already read.

 

[NotWise]

i think a scene/story fave doesn't count towards the 250. it seems to be when you're added as a fave author which adds to the stats there: you're 4th ... i'm 49th, so there's obviously bias involved.

I didn't know it was possible to bookmark scenes within a story.

 

[SimonDoom]

I only just started seeing the "so and so added to their reading list" a couple of days ago.

The 'fav' shows up as a measurable stat. There's a top 250 most faved story list. So if the reader now has an either or-or both- choice, the amount of favs will go down.

Considering there was already the fav as a way to bookmark a story I have no idea why the reading list was created, its redundant.

The nomenclature changed on the home page, but the institution of having separate bookmark and favorites lists has existed for a while. I know because I've been downloading the stats in Excel form for years now and that distinction has existed for a while. I can't recall exactly how long, but I'm pretty sure it's been there for over a year and a half.

It's possible that making bookmarks and favorites separate will have a negative impact on the number of favorites given, because people won't use favorites as bookmarks, but I'm not seeing that in my own story data. The rate of favoriting for older stories, especially on a view:favorite basis, did not seem to change. for me as the practice of having and using separate bookmarks was instituted.

What's more likely, I think (but I don't know this for sure), is that bookmarks have created added value, and some people continue to use favorites as bookmarks but now more people use bookmarks as bookmarks. Combined, they add up to what is now called "reading lists."

I don't see them as redundant. I favorite stories that I consider all-time favorite stories. I bookmark those I haven't read yet. It's easier and more useful to me to keep these lists separate.

Update: I just did a thread search and there were threads on this forum on the implementation of bookmarks at least as early as June 2020. I know they've been around longer than that but the implementation process was slow and it wasn't easy to DO a bookmark or monitor stats about them until around the summer of 2020, if I recall.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

I didn't know it was possible to bookmark scenes within a story.

it isn’t. i was merely making a distinction between scenes and stories. a scene isn’t necessarily a story while a story can be made up of scenes. some short stories don’t qualify that description. they might only be a scene if there’s no real change to the characters’ experience, etc.

or something…

 

[lovecraft68]

i think a scene/story fave doesn't count towards the 250. it seems to be when you're added as a fave author which adds to the stats there: you're 4th ... i'm 49th, so there's obviously bias involved.

You're talking favorite author. I'm talking about when people favorite a story there's a top 250 list for that as well.