Florida Giving CRT the Hard Goodbye

[pecksniff]

Corporations like Nike, Coke, Kroger...it's rife in HRdepartments.

So what?

 

[Bud_Spencer]

So what?

Hostile work environment is what. That's the OP's point, along with hostile educational environment.

 

[pecksniff]

Hostile work environment is what. That's the OP's point, along with hostile educational environment.

You actually think a lawsuit of that kind can be grounded on HR giving racial sensitivity training? It cannot, and there is no reason why it should be.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

There is no explanation of it, either. You have provided nothing to actually indicate the presence of CRT in the "praxis."

A small example:

Detroit’s school superintendent, Nikolai Vitti, says critical race theory is deeply embedded in his school system: “Our curriculum is deeply using critical race theory, especially in social studies, but you’ll find it in English language arts and the other disciplines. We were very intentional about…embedding critical race theory within our curriculum.”

https://www.cnsnews.com/index.php/c...-race-theory-even-education-reporters-falsely

Note that it's not curriculum, it's the pedagogy, the praxis.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

You actually think a lawsuit of that kind can be grounded on HR giving racial sensitivity training? It cannot, and there is no reason why it should be.

This isn't racial snsitivity training.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

A small example:

Detroit’s school superintendent, Nikolai Vitti, says critical race theory is deeply embedded in his school system: “Our curriculum is deeply using critical race theory, especially in social studies, but you’ll find it in English language arts and the other disciplines. We were very intentional about…embedding critical race theory within our curriculum.”

https://www.cnsnews.com/index.php/c...-race-theory-even-education-reporters-falsely

Note that it's not curriculum, it's the pedagogy, the praxis.

So,
1. You're claiming that you know more than the school superintendent.
2. You still don't understand the difference between those two words.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

More on how CRT is woven into subjets that have nothing to do with CRT:

2. How do educators have to adjust their curriculum to embed critical race theory and anti-racism?

By consciously and intentionally utilizing marginalized voices and experiences in the teaching of their respective disciplines, educators can disrupt the default European orientation of the American education system.

By strategically integrating the eclectic histories of their respective fields and incorporating more diverse examples and experiences into their curriculum, K-12 educators validate the lives and contributions of marginalized and disadvantaged communities. It is important that students see themselves as creators of knowledge, as well as, consumers of education.

So math will now focus on the stories of marginalized groups who, presumably, don't do math very well. Ditto Chemisty and Physics. So expect kids to know a lot less about math, physics and chem very soon.

 

[WillJ8787]

So,
1. You're claiming that you know more than the school superintendent.
2. You still don't understand the difference between those two words.

Exactly how you know one is dealing with a crazy idiot....sitting on his Mama's basement couch with no shirt on and his pants down by his ankles.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

More on how CRT is woven into subjets that have nothing to do with CRT:

2. How do educators have to adjust their curriculum to embed critical race theory and anti-racism?

By consciously and intentionally utilizing marginalized voices and experiences in the teaching of their respective disciplines, educators can disrupt the default European orientation of the American education system.

By strategically integrating the eclectic histories of their respective fields and incorporating more diverse examples and experiences into their curriculum, K-12 educators validate the lives and contributions of marginalized and disadvantaged communities. It is important that students see themselves as creators of knowledge, as well as, consumers of education.

So math will now focus on the stories of marginalized groups who, presumably, don't do math very well. Ditto Chemisty and Physics. So expect kids to know a lot less about math, physics and chem very soon.

So now CRT is back to being curriculum and is no longer pedagogy.

 

[YDB95]

Is this a joke? It's the entire premise behind the drive for "equity."

In your twisted worldview, no doubt. But that's beside the point. My point was you made an inflammatory accusation with nothing to back it up, and I pointed out what you always do when called on that.

It is a proven tenant of CRT. I've already posted the proof in the past. You can look it up by searching my posts.

Your "proof" was simply a bunch of other anti-CRT screeds that were no more honest about what CRT really is than you ever are.

“The relevant point for now is that all white people are racist or complicit by virtue of benefiting from privileges that are not something they can voluntarily renounce.” From Being White, Being Good: White Complicity, White Moral Responsibility, and Social Justice Pedagogy, by Barbara Applebaum, p. 16.

"…a positive white identity is an impossible goal. White identity is inherently racist; white people do not exist outside the system of white supremacy.” From White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism, by Robin DiAngelo, p. 149.

Neither of those is a CRT book. They're about white privilege and systemic racism, which are related but separate and distinct from CRT.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Neither of those is a CRT book. They're about white privilege and systemic racism, which are related but separate and distinct from CRT.

Both authors are CR Theorist and practicers, writing about race consistent with CRT. There is nothing in the passages I cited nor in either's writings that hint at the slightest daylightbetween them and CRT.

You people can deny and wail all you like, but I'm describing CRT accurately and you know it. It's a vile creed, based on lies and hatred. I'm just the messenger.

 

[bellisarius]

Kinda interesting that those most interested in defending CRT don't have a dog in the fight. No children, not even grandchildren.

 

[Lazaran]

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Pud is a messenger of vile lies and hatred.

*nods*

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Kinda interesting that those most interested in defending CRT don't have a dog in the fight. No children, not even grandchildren.

But they live in the country.

 

[pecksniff]

This isn't racial snsitivity training.

It's not anything else.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Kinda interesting that those most interested in defending CRT don't have a dog in the fight. No children, not even grandchildren.

And here's the fact that belies all their shrill denials and evasions: They say it's not being taught or done in schools, but goddamn it, Desatanist had better not ban it from schools! They're lying, they know they're lying and are desperate to put the genie back into the bottle.

 

[pecksniff]

And here's the fact that belies all their shrill denials and evasions: They say it's not being taught or done in schools, but goddamn it, Desatanist had better not ban it from schools! They're lying, they know they're lying and are desperate to put the genie back into the bottle.

What DeSantis and his ilk want to do goes way beyond CRT. These idiots want to ban Margaret Atwood, FFS!

 

[Bud_Spencer]

What DeSantis and his ilk want to do goes way beyond CRT. These idiots want to ban Margaret Atwood, FFS!

I stand on my comment. The Defcon 1 freakout isn't over Magraret Atwood (she's been cancelled anyway).

 

[Lazaran]

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The "CRT" bogeyman is the perfect vehicle for opportunistic racists to use in their campaign to whitewash history.

People seem to forget that CRT, etc, was a response to racist propagation of the bullshit narrative that black Americans CURRENTLY suffer from gross societal inequity due to some genetic or hereditary flaw, rather than the more obvious cause: entrenched institutional / systemic white racism, and historical discrimination and disenfranchisement.

Pud's constant CRUSADE against CRT tells a person all they need to know about Pud's racist bent.

*nods*

 

[YDB95]

Both authors are CR Theorist and practicers, writing about race consistent with CRT.

Perhaps (although you haven't actually shown any evidence of that, only of your own inaccurate view of what CRT is). But you posted those quotes in response to a request for "a chapter from a CRT textbook being forced upon children in the classroom", and those books are neither CRT textbooks, nor are they being forced upon children in any classroom.

For that matter, they also don't say what you claimed they said, that "white people are born oppressors who cannot be redeemed." They do say all white people have white privilege whether they want it or not, and that white identity is rooted in racism (as opposed to, say, identity as having ancestry in any one part of Europe - not Irish-American, Polish-American, etc., but simply "white"). But that's not the same as saying they're "born oppressors" or "cannot be redeemed".

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Kinda interesting that those most interested in defending CRT don't have a dog in the fight. No children, not even grandchildren.

It's quite the opposite, Ishtard. Your moronic bud, Dud, is the loudest and staunchest proponent. Your great-grandchildren will be cooking meth before junior high anyway.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Just a reminder what Que said CRT was.

I'll give you an example, since you two are impervious to abstraction:

Imagine this word problem given to students in Math class:

"Twenty settlers move onto 500 acres of Choctaw land in January.
In February, the settlers determine they need more land and have the cavalry force the Choctaw off another 600 acres. The Choctaw are paid with ten gallons of whiskey. How much is each gallon of whiskey worth in terms of stolen land?"

The course says "Math." No CRT found on any text or materials.

What is being taught here?

 

[Lazaran]

Just a reminder what Que said CRT was.

That was a day when Pud's "CRT" - (Critical Race Tourettes) was really acting up.

A day ending in " Y ".

*nods* and *chuckles*

 

[YDB95]

Needless to say, if anyone had tried using a math problem like that, it would have made the news. And the progressives Pud loves to hate would be furious about the racist stereotyping (Native Americans as alcoholics) that it works in for no real reason.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Perhaps (although you haven't actually shown any evidence of that, only of your own inaccurate view of what CRT is). But you posted those quotes in response to a request for "a chapter from a CRT textbook being forced upon children in the classroom", and those books are neither CRT textbooks, nor are they being forced upon children in any classroom.

For that matter, they also don't say what you claimed they said, that "white people are born oppressors who cannot be redeemed." They do say all white people have white privilege whether they want it or not, and that white identity is rooted in racism (as opposed to, say, identity as having ancestry in any one part of Europe - not Irish-American, Polish-American, etc., but simply "white"). But that's not the same as saying they're "born oppressors" or "cannot be redeemed".

I stand on my posts. Every one.