Florida Giving CRT the Hard Goodbye

[pecksniff]

That's an easy one: https://www.amazon.com/Antiracist-B...=1640811986&sprefix=anti-racist,aps,87&sr=8-1

From a guy who wants the US to become a racial dictatorship in the name of "equity."

No, it's by Ibram Kendi.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

No, it's by Ibram Kendi.

That's exactly whom I'm talking about. He's not the brightest bulb on the tree, but he's definitely the most totalitarian one.

 

[pecksniff]

That's exactly whom I'm talking about. He's not the brightest bulb on the tree, but he's definitely the most totalitarian one.

There's nothing totalitarian here.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

There's nothing totalitarian here.

No? How about here: https://www.politico.com/interactiv...pass-an-anti-racist-constitutional-amendment/

 

[pecksniff]

No? How about here: https://www.politico.com/interactiv...pass-an-anti-racist-constitutional-amendment/

Not there either. Totalitarianism has a narrow definition. It does not just mean gummint getting all up in your bizness, it means a society in which the state controls everything, like North Korea or to some lesser extent the PRC.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Not there either. Totalitarianism has a narrow definition. It does not just mean gummint getting all up in your bizness, it means a society in which the state controls everything, like North Korea or to some lesser extent the PRC.

So you don't think that an unelected, unaccountable cabal of critical race theorists using God-knows-what standard, second-guessing each and evry law, excutive order, policy and treaty from the federal government down to the Bugtussle Volunteer Fire Department, not to mention every single private decision of every company, organization and group isn't totalitarian?

This makes North Korea look like a Lockean Eden.

 

[YDB95]

My definition is from Delgado and Stefancic, who literally wrote the book on CRT.

No it isn't, because you doctored that quote to change the context substantially.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

No it isn't, because you doctored that quote to change the context substantially.

It's verbatim. Go check it out.

 

[YDB95]

It's verbatim. Go check it out.

I already did, the last time you trotted out that quote. I showed at the time that you added your own context, which was very different from that in which the line fit in the book.

And if you had read the whole book, you would know there isn't anything whatsoever there that reflects the self-serving parody you always serve up as the real meaning of CRT. Nothing.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

I already did, the last time you trotted out that quote. I showed at the time that you added your own context, which was very different from that in which the line fit in the book.

And if you had read the whole book, you would know there isn't anything whatsoever there that reflects the self-serving parody you always serve up as the real meaning of CRT. Nothing.

I stand on my post. You are incorrect.

 

[YDB95]

I stand on my post. You are incorrect.

Come back when you've read the whole book, not just that one line in the wrong context.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Come back when you've read the whole book, not just that one line in the wrong context.

You're free to post what CRT "really" is.

 

[YDB95]

You're free to post what CRT "really" is.

That has already been done repeatedly in this very thread. No need for me to repeat it and set up yet another excuse for you to whine about what they "really" meant.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

That has already been done repeatedly in this very thread. No need for me to repeat it and set up yet another excuse for you to whine about what they "really" meant.

I don't recall that, do you have a post number? All I recall is Sarge doing what you're doing and essentially saying "huh-uh" to everything I stated, like John Cleese in the Argument Sketch.

 

[pecksniff]

So you don't think that an unelected, unaccountable cabal of critical race theorists using God-knows-what standard, second-guessing each and evry law, excutive order, policy and treaty from the federal government down to the Bugtussle Volunteer Fire Department, not to mention every single private decision of every company, organization and group isn't totalitarian?

Of course not. They're only second-guessing. They're not running things. They still would not be, if CRT were made part of every school curriculum.

 

[pecksniff]

You're free to post what CRT "really" is.

CRT:

Critical race theory (CRT) is a cross-disciplinary intellectual and social movement that began in the United States in the post–civil rights era, as 1960s landmark civil rights laws were being eroded and schools were being re-segregated.[1] With racial inequalities persisting even after civil rights legislation was enacted, CRT scholars in the 1970s and 1980s began reworking and expanding critical legal studies (CLS) theories on class, economic structure and the law[2] to examine the role of U.S. law in perpetuating racism.[3]

CRT is a framework of analysis grounded in critical theory[4] which originated in the mid-1970s in the writings of several American legal scholars, including Derrick Bell, Alan Freeman, Kimberlé Crenshaw, Richard Delgado, Cheryl Harris, Charles R. Lawrence III, Mari Matsuda, and Patricia J. Williams.[5] CRT draws from the work of thinkers such as Antonio Gramsci, Sojourner Truth, Frederick Douglass, and W. E. B. DuBois, as well as the Black Power, Chicano, and radical feminist movements from the 1960s and 1970s.[5]

A key CRT concept is intersectionality—the way in which different forms of inequality and identity are affected by interconnections of race, class, gender and disability.[6] Scholars of CRT view race as a social construct with no biological basis.[7][8] One tenet of CRT is that racism and disparate racial outcomes are the result of complex, changing, and often subtle social and institutional dynamics, rather than explicit and intentional prejudices of individuals.[8][9][10] CRT scholars argue that the idea of race advances the interests of white people[7] at the expense of people of color,[11][12] and that the liberal notion of U.S. law as "neutral" plays a significant role in maintaining a racially unjust social order,[13] where formally color-blind laws continue to have racially discriminatory outcomes.[14]

Which is both indisputable and unobjectionable so far as it goes.

 

[GothTalk]

CRT:



Which is both indisputable and unobjectionable so far as it goes.

At least they self identify as bigots.

A key CRT concept is intersectionality—the way in which different forms of inequality and identity are affected by interconnections of race, class, gender and disability.

And this is bullshit.

where formally color-blind laws continue to have racially discriminatory outcomes.

It's not racially discriminatory, it's racially unequitable outcomes.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Of course not. They're only second-guessing. They're not running things. They still would not be, if CRT were made part of every school curriculum.

That's fucking nuts. It's an unelected dictatorship.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Dud is the only convinced that Dud knows even a wee bit about CRT and its implementation into classrooms.

 

[Lazaran]

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Pud and GothBoBo are terrified, so they become hysterical.

That ^ is to be expected from weak individuals.

*nods*

 

[pecksniff]

That's fucking nuts. It's an unelected dictatorship.

Awfully powerless for a dictatorship.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I don't recall that, do you have a post number? All I recall is Sarge doing what you're doing and essentially saying "huh-uh" to everything I stated, like John Cleese in the Argument Sketch.

No one has said anything close to that. I've just been documenting your deflecting and goal post moving. You keep saying that you've changed the definition but then immediately change your story to the definition is the same.

 

[bellisarius]

Is he still trying to defend that shit? Oh well, doesn't matter. That particular philosophy is going to be disappearing from the public schools and all the crying and hand wringing isn't going to bring it back. Not even an act of congress can do that.

Perhaps, just perhaps, concentrating on getting a real education is the answer. Real educations lead to real jobs and real jobs tend to pay pretty damn well.

 

[pecksniff]

It's not racially discriminatory, it's racially unequitable outcomes.

Same thing.

 

[pecksniff]

Real educations lead to real jobs and real jobs tend to pay pretty damn well.

Wrong on both counts. Real jobs are the kind you find in the Amazon warehouse.