Omicron.

[jaF0]

"99% of the people who died from the vaccine had underlying problems."

This is a fun game.

100% of the people who died were human.

 

[jaF0]

I know. But South African data might be massaged by their government.

And Brit data isn't?

 

[jaF0]

World News // 28 minutes ago

New studies say Omicron COVID-19 variant appears milder than Delta strain

Dec. 23 (UPI) -- Two new scientific studies indicate that the Omicron COVID-19 variant appears to be milder than prior strains like Delta, but it still has the potential to kill and overwhelm hospitals worldwide.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2021/12/23/uk-studies-omicron-covid-variant/2411640259527/



So, even though it somehow appears to have the magical ability to appear in every corner of the human population almost simultaneously, it doesn't appear to have much of a kick.

Maybe the fuckers that panicked and trashed the markets last week will go bury their heads now.

 

[oggbashan]

World News // 28 minutes ago

New studies say Omicron COVID-19 variant appears milder than Delta strain

Dec. 23 (UPI) -- Two new scientific studies indicate that the Omicron COVID-19 variant appears to be milder than prior strains like Delta, but it still has the potential to kill and overwhelm hospitals worldwide.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2021/12/23/uk-studies-omicron-covid-variant/2411640259527/



So, even though it somehow appears to have the magical ability to appear in every corner of the human population almost simultaneously, it doesn't appear to have much of a kick.

Maybe the fuckers that panicked and trashed the markets last week will go bury their heads now.

Maybe it IS milder but if even a small percentage of those who get it need hospital treatment and might die, a smaller percentage of a larger population could lead to more hospitalizations and deaths than the smaller number of Delta sufferers.

A week or so ago the UK was running around 40,000 infections a day. Now it is over 100,000 and that increase is mainly down to Omicron. 2 % of 40,000 (800) is less than 1% of 100,000 (1,000)

 

[hobbit.]

And Brit data isn't?

NO! ours is carefully crafted by government employees. it is 100% on message. always.

 

[oggbashan]

NO! ours is carefully crafted by government employees. it is 100% on message. always.

Our politicians are often embarrassed by the truth given by the Office of National Statistics. They are independent of government and tell it how it is, without political spin.

 

[jaF0]

Double 'Peached Donny Doubles Down ag'in the Dummies



Donald Trump Touts COVID Vaccines, Says Those Dying and Hospitalized Didn't Get the Shots


"The ones that get very sick and go to the hospital are the ones who don't take their vaccine," the former president said.


https://www.newsweek.com/donald-tru...se-dying-hospitalized-didnt-get-shots-1662611

 

[hobbit.]

Our politicians are often embarrassed by the truth given by the Office of National Statistics. They are independent of government and tell it how it is, without political spin.

seriously?

 

[oggbashan]

seriously?

Yep. They keep embarrassing Boris and his cabinet.

 

[jaF0]

Doctor please, some more of these, into the store ....


For 2nd time in 2 days, FDA gives emergency clearance to COVID-19 antiviral pill
Dec. 23 (UPI) -- For the second time in as many days, federal regulators on Thursday granted emergency approval to an antiviral pill as a treatment for COVID-19 -- this one from Merck.



https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/202...thorization-merck-molnupiravir/9711640275797/

 

[hobbit.]

should be interesting if Russia does its usual Christmas thing of invading somewhere, to see how quickly Covid falls off the top headline spot.

 

[oggbashan]

Doctor please, some more of these, into the store ....


For 2nd time in 2 days, FDA gives emergency clearance to COVID-19 antiviral pill
Dec. 23 (UPI) -- For the second time in as many days, federal regulators on Thursday granted emergency approval to an antiviral pill as a treatment for COVID-19 -- this one from Merck.



https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/202...thorization-merck-molnupiravir/9711640275797/

The UK has ordered millions of anti-viral pills that can help people who have caught Covid. This time last year such things didn't exist. (except some of the much posted useless ideas such as bleach, and ivermectin).

The number of people dying as a percentage of those needing hospital treatment is dropping as more treatments are approved. But none of them are as effective as being vaccinated. That is the largest help to surviving if you need to go to hospital, and if you hadn't been, after catching Covid it is far too late for a vaccine to help.

 

[thør]

should be interesting if Russia does its usual Christmas thing of invading somewhere, to see how quickly Covid falls off the top headline spot.

Happy Christmas, Tovarishch.

 

[hobbit.]

Happy Christmas, Tovarishch.

charge of the light brigade, anyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G5rfPISIwo

 

[thør]

charge of the light brigade, anyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G5rfPISIwo

It will be a brigade of Ukrainian Cossacks.

 

[hobbit.]

It will be a brigade of Ukrainian Cossacks.

some key workers drive vans for amazon....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY2qPiA5KS4

 

[thør]

some key workers drive vans for amazon....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY2qPiA5KS4

Soon, there will be no one to send money back to.

 

[Wrong Element]

World News // 28 minutes ago

New studies say Omicron COVID-19 variant appears milder than Delta strain

Dec. 23 (UPI) -- Two new scientific studies indicate that the Omicron COVID-19 variant appears to be milder than prior strains like Delta, but it still has the potential to kill and overwhelm hospitals worldwide.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2021/12/23/uk-studies-omicron-covid-variant/2411640259527/



So, even though it somehow appears to have the magical ability to appear in every corner of the human population almost simultaneously, it doesn't appear to have much of a kick.

Maybe the fuckers that panicked and trashed the markets last week will go bury their heads now.

I think there's still a question of what Omicron would do in what's called a "naive" population, but the bottom line is that's not what we have: the huge majority of Americans have either had a previous case of Covid or have some protection from vaccines (and of course, millions have had both). That is certainly blunting the impact of Omicron beyond the question of whether it's inherently weaker.

Just anecdotally (based on the rise in cases that started around the time), it appears that Omicron was starting to spread in New York City around the beginning of the month, so if it was going to be a massive issue for hospitals, we'd be starting to see it around now. There has been a bit of an increase in hospitalizations, but it's not looking anything like March 2020. I think they're more concerned with staffing shortages caused by Omicron spread than they are with the prospect of the variant flooding them with patients.

And I think I saw that the numbers of Covid patients in London ICUs were holding steady, even as the variant is still blowing up there.

 

[oggbashan]

And I think I saw that the numbers of Covid patients in London ICUs were holding steady, even as the variant is still blowing up there.

That is no longer true. The hospitalizations in London have grown by 40% in the last few days. The rest of the UK is still steady for hospitalizations - so far. The majority of those in hospitals in London are younger unvaccinated adults.

 

[Champakian]

Debating how bad it could have been. Seriously???

 

[hobbit.]

Soon, there will be no one to send money back to.

they could send it to me care of 'Mystic Hobbit charitable enterprises' I will put it to good use.

 

[oggbashan]

Debating how bad it could have been. Seriously???

In South Africa, the number of daily cases of Omicron has dropped but they don't know why.

In London, despite Omicron being 'milder' and the percentage of people needing hospital treatment being fewer than with Delta, the percentage is of a much larger number of infections and so hospital admissions have increased by 44%.

But London is one of the places in the UK where the unvaccinated are most numerous. It is the unvaccinated that make up most of the new hospital admissions.

 

[Champakian]

:facepalm:


We know why...

 

[Chernosoth]

But London is one of the places in the UK where the unvaccinated are most numerous. It is the unvaccinated that make up most of the new hospital admissions.

There are many possible reasons, starting with free healthcare. Sniffles? Free ER. And there are unhealthy aspects of living in the UK, especially London with extreme population density and all sorts of crap in the air. The lockdown that reduced sunlight exposure for already deprived people is another kick in the immune system. As natural gas becomes more expensive, the UK will be burning more wood and some coal, so respiratory heath may still get worse for a long while, but it can at least get off the shots carousel.

 

[oggbashan]

There are many possible reasons, starting with free healthcare. Sniffles? Free ER. And there are unhealthy aspects of living in the UK, especially London with extreme population density and all sorts of crap in the air. The lockdown that reduced sunlight exposure for already deprived people is another kick in the immune system. As natural gas becomes more expensive, the UK will be burning more wood and some coal, so respiratory heath may still get worse for a long while, but it can at least get off the shots carousel.

But the largest factor is that some parts of London have the largest proportion of unvaccinated people than anywhere else in the UK.

Some resistance is ethnic; some is religious (which is why vaccination centres have opened in mosques and Sikh temples) but most is from younger people who believe fake news on social media rather than the government.