Manchin, National Hero

[Rightguide]

Rotodom take note. I posted something positive about a Democrat:


Manchin killing BBB likely saved US from economic 'disaster,' experts say
An offshore drilling ban in the United States would strengthen oil-rich countries like Russia, experts say
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By Andrew Mark Miller FOX Business

At least 51 senators rejected the Build Back Better bill, including Joe Manchin.

The West Virginia senator reportedly forced fellow Democrats to scrap an offshore drilling ban from the massive Build Back Better Act spending plan, a provision that experts say would have had disastrous consequences for the country.

"An offshore drilling ban would be a disaster for our country, rolling out the red carpet for Russia and Venezuela to replace 20% of America’s daily production and costing Texas alone over 1 million jobs along our Gulf Coast," Jason Modglin, President of Texas Alliance of Energy Producers, told Fox News Digital.

Modglin spoke in response to reports that Manchin convinced Democrats to abandon a plan to stop all drilling on rigs in the Atlantic Ocean, Pacific Ocean and Gulf of Mexico.

Ryan Sitton, founder and CEO of Texas-based reliability firm Pinnacle, echoed Modglin’s conclusion and said eliminating offshore drilling would embolden Russia, a country President Biden’s Pentagon deemed as an "existential threat" to the United States earlier this year.

"It simply makes Russia absolutely more powerful," Sitton said.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/manchin-offshore-drilling-ban-bbb-saving-us-disaster-experts

 

[Rotadom]

A traitor to the cause.

 

[Rightguide]

A traitor to the cause.

Note that the defense number Biden allowed is less than the rate of inflation, so it is a cut in spending.

Manchin represents the people in West Virginia, not the Squad or Bernie, or the party line. His constituents voted for Trump.

 

[Rotadom]

Military spending should be cut and if Manchin's constituents are voting republican, he's not doing a very good job. No wonder you like a failure.

 

[pecksniff]

Rotodom take note. I posted something positive about a Democrat:


Manchin killing BBB likely saved US from economic 'disaster,' experts say
An offshore drilling ban in the United States would strengthen oil-rich countries like Russia, experts say

The "experts" are the Texas Alliance of Energy Producers. They're not exactly disinterested.

 

[ll74]

Lmao...wow...did someone put crack in the water today?

 

[Cubantripod]

A traitor to the cause.

Manchin has been concerned about the debt since 2011. When you're worried about a budget, there are certain things you can't cut from. At home, you don't stop paying the light bill or cut from the grocery bill. You look at discretionary spending, luxuries, etc.
https://www.manchin.senate.gov/news...g-the-debt-ceiling-without-a-real-budget-plan

 

[Rotadom]

Manchin has been concerned about the debt since 2011. When you're worried about a budget, there are certain things you can't cut from. At home, you don't stop paying the light bill or cut from the grocery bill. You look at discretionary spending, luxuries, etc.
https://www.manchin.senate.gov/news...g-the-debt-ceiling-without-a-real-budget-plan

Infrastructure isn't a luxury.

 

[pecksniff]

Infrastructure isn't a luxury.

And the present level of military spending is.

 

[Cubantripod]

Infrastructure isn't a luxury.

That's why that bill passed. This one was a wish list at a time where inflation is soaring. That's why you don' hear many arguments about what we're losing. All you hear is the hyperbole that democracy is on the brink.

 

[Cubantripod]

And the present level of military spending is.

When you're called on to be the world's police it isn't. When you can't tell your European Nato friends to pony up for their defense because that's rude, it isn't.

 

[Rotadom]

All you hear is the hyperbole that democracy is on the brink.

Where did you hear that because I sure haven't?

 

[Cubantripod]

Where did you hear that because I sure haven't?

https://www.foxnews.com/media/manchin-media-critics-predict-vote-democracy

 

[Sean Renaud]

Where did you hear that because I sure haven't?

I've been hearing that from both sides actually.

The reality is that nobody ASKED us tobe World Police, we took up the job for selfish reasons and maintain it for selfish reasons. Today its no different than The Rock opening a gym for unfortunate youths and making sure once a season he spends a few days doing his work out in town.

 

[Rotadom]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/manchin-media-critics-predict-vote-democracy

An op-ed from WaPo which Trump determined to be fake news.

Got anything substantial?

 

[pecksniff]

When you're called on to be the world's police it isn't.

No one country is qualified to be that.

 

[Cubantripod]

An op-ed from WaPo which Trump determined to be fake news.

Got anything substantial?

Don't move the goal posts now.

 

[Rotadom]

All you hear is the hyperbole that democracy is on the brink.

"All you hear" isn't one op-ed.

Don't move the goal posts now.

Looks like you're the only dealing in hyperbole.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Infrastructure isn't a luxury.

The infrastructure bill has already passed. Pretty sure Manchin voted for it. BBB was a grab bag of social and green new deal spending

 

[pecksniff]

All you hear is the hyperbole that democracy is on the brink.

It is, but not because of this.

 

[Cubantripod]

It is, but not because of this.

Because democracy is a bad system. The framers new it and established a republic based on liberty.

 

[Cubantripod]

"All you hear" isn't one op-ed.



Looks like you're the only dealing in hyperbole.

Keep moving the goal posts.

 

[pecksniff]

Because democracy is a bad system. The framers new it and established a republic based on liberty.

You're not getting into that always-dishonest bullshit about "a republic, not a democracy," are you?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Because democracy is a bad system. The framers new it and established a republic based on liberty.

What exactly makes you think the Framers knew or thought that?

 

[Rotadom]

Keep moving the goal posts.

You have no clue as to what that means, do you? You saying, "All you hear" and then "backing it up" with a weaksauce op-ed piece from a fake news source is actually moving the goalposts.