Anonymous grammar trolls?

[born2rebellis]

Nothing is obvious. You have no idea what the mental processes, thoughts, intentions, or motives are of this commentator. You cannot possibly say, with any credibility, that they have a "mental illness." You accuse others of speculating, but that's what you are doing.

I'll note you still haven't provided a link to the story or the comment. We have no reason to take your word for the accuracy of your representation of the comment or of the quality of the story, because your own posts -- and your two stories, which were published only two days ago -- are so rife with fundamental punctuation and grammar errors that it calls your judgment on these issues into question.

I'm not trying to be belligerent with you, as you seem to wish to be belligerent with everyone who disagrees with you. I'm telling you the plain truth.

An author has no right to feel entitled to be taken seriously if the author does not show respect for the most elemental conventions of grammar and spelling and punctuation. I see writing as a form of communication between author and reader, and if the author's attitude toward grammar is "F#$% You" there's no reason for me to take that author seriously because that author doesn't take me, the reader, seriously.

It isn't all about you, the author.

Do you honestly think care i care if you don’t take me seriously? Haha by your logic you wouldn’t even take yourself seriously, hypocrite, acting like you’ve never made a mistake before, without spellcheck and google you probably wouldn’t even be able to string a single sentence together without a mistake

Who do you think you are, seriously?

Claiming what people have the right and don’t have the right to feel? LOL! Can you even hear yourself?

If anyone isn’t to be taken seriously it’s you by the outlandish comments your making.


“You’re telling me the plain truth, the truth and nothing but the truth, the God-breathes almighty unquestionable truth!!!!”

PS I’ll continue to make mistakes my entire life when it comes to grammar, that’s because I’m a realist, I’m not delusional like you, nor hypocritical, I understand human nature, I’m not a robot like you and think like a robot, (oxymoron)

Mistakes get passed editors all the time, professional editors, mistakes are a part of life, when not intended
You must waste a hell of a lot of time painstakingly proof reading over everything just to satisfy your mental illness, time is the only real currency on this earth and you sure know how to spend yours wisely.


Again, Shakespeare couldn’t get 6 lines together without flaw, I guess you don’t take Shakespeare seriously either
Clown

 

[born2rebellis]

I've realized with my own stories posted and receiving dozens of 1 ratings, nasty comments, 5 ratings, editors reviewing and saying "Good story, but not what I like to read", and even that the stories are TOO sex intensive ... there are a lot of different opinions about what is good or bad, and what distracts one is easily ignored by another.

So, don't "waist" your time critiquing what others might find annoying. If they are annoyed, it's just who they are. And you can't tell people to "Don't be who you are! Be like me!"

I’m not telling anyone to be like me.


I’m just pointing out there’s so many trolls on this forum, pretentious hypocrites who couldn’t string a sentence together properly without spellcheck and go about abusing others whilst they can’t even spell themselves without the help of robots

Haha what a joke.

 

[born2rebellis]

born2rebellis: Your original post and many of your subsequent responses read as aggressive. Don't be surprised if other people react badly.

1. Grammar is very important. Correct use allows for greater subtlety of meaning and expression, and through familiarity and consistency it becomes invisible to the reader - and *that* is the ultimate goal. We don't write so that readers admire our grammar. We write so that readers are not distracted from the story by the grammar.

2. Plenty of authors have good reasons to be poor at grammar. Often they're not native English speakers, or they're dyslexic, or they're very new to writing and grammar simply hasn't been important before.

a. A teenager I know recently got very confused trying to read Frankenstein because they thought a comma necessarily meant a pause, when in fact two hundred years ago commas were used far more structurally.
b. There was a Twitter thread yesterday talking about how a certain generation uses ellipsis (...) for emphasis - they were taught not to use exclamation marks and so used the ellipsis instead.

3. Following on from the previous point: grammar is not an absolute. Style guides exist at major publishers in an attempt to bring some uniformity, but any attempt to adhere absolutely to grammar rules will ultimately get in the way of free expression in informal writing.

Ultimately, if you think your grammar is good enough and readers still complain about it, then you're in the wrong. If your grammar were truly good enough, the readers wouldn't notice it - except for pedants who should know better than to comment.

I couldn’t care less about hypocritical people who complain about grammar especially when without spellcheck, or google, they couldn’t even spell themselves, my point is the problem is with them and their OCD and complete lack of understanding of human nature, especially some of points you mentioned, they seem oblivious to this.

As someone said, James Joyce invented words when he pleased, these same nazis would have said “You don’t respect mah grammar”

I’ll tell you what I don’t respect, or take seriously? Hypocrites.

 

[AlinaX]

Your attitude is tiresome and abrasive. Go be a fucking troll elsewhere.

 

[born2rebellis]

Your attitude is tiresome and abrasive. Go be a fucking troll elsewhere.

“Your attitude is fucking abrasive!” Spoken very abrasively


It must be embarrassing to be that hypocritical

 

[born2rebellis]

Your attitude is tiresome and abrasive. Go be a fucking troll elsewhere.

I like how you completely ignored all of my valid points and then when you have nothing to counter them resort to smearing my character with false accusations lol how am I trolling you by making valid points?

Many people have learning disabilities, These grammar nazis on LIT should go to special schools around their area and start abusing the children ‘’l to fucking spell’’ without actually helping them.

Maybe then they’d see what pathetic self righteous assholes they are.

 

[born2rebellis]

I'll add this, too, based on my experience, and in response to the theme that began this thread: that there are many ticky-tacky critical comments being made about grammar in wonderful, excellent stories.

In my experience as a reader on this Site for over almost 20 years and as an author for 5 five years, this is simply not true. The overwhelming number of comments about grammar, including comments about the grammar in my stories, are accurate, and I regard them as appropriately made and useful. If I make a grammar, spelling, or punctuation error, I want a reader to point it out to me, every single time. I don't care if it's an otherwise wonderful story. I learn from criticism, and my own belief is that writers should be adults, put aside their defensiveness, accept criticism, and learn from it as best they can.

Are you going to abuse children with learning disabilities and tell them they have no right to feel worthy after handing in their short story


And when you get berated proceed to say “they didn’t respect the grammar!!”” Haha you nutcase maybe now you see how insane you are

 

[jsmiam]

@born, you look kinda familiar. Are you reincarnated by any chance? Electronically, I mean, with respect to screen names and such.

 

[born2rebellis]

@born, you look kinda familiar. Are you reincarnated by any chance? Electronically, I mean, with respect to screen names and such.

I’ve not long been on this forum, perhaps a week, however I’ve been a reader for a while, and been writing for a while, mostly philosophical stuff, I like to write the way I talk and don’t consider myself technically correct and text-book.

I look forward to improving myself as a writer as I appreciate grammar, that’s not the point I was making, those are mere words which have been put in my mouth, I respect the English language and and vocabulary, those are just misconceptions that I don’t.

My points were how grammar can be used as a weapon against people and how many comments I see don’t provide feedback on more creative aspects of writing like analogies, metaphors and the way people articulate themselves in general.


I’m aware you get the good with the bad, and I won’t be defined by any kind of negativity or what I see as hostility, spite, cynicism and zealously.
I’m bringing what I can to the forum to make it a better environment for fellow writers and to encourage others and pay respect to the art of writing itself by doing so rather then giving it a bad name.

As it’s not not grammar errors and typos that give writing it a bad name, It’s the attributes I mentioned above.

 

[yukonnights]

You know what I've noticed for awhile now? Member accounts with a 2021 join date seem to be very angry — their posts are often acrimonious. Is it just the influence of so much social media? Perhaps it's just me who's noticing this.

But honestly, should a thread on story feedback be this full of angst and anger and insults? This reads more like a shouting match and an argument. I learned zip — zero from all of the words spilled on this.

Someone left a comment about some grammar mistakes — okay … that happens. So what?

Any author who doesn't want to endure the heat of the 'writer's kitchen', shouldn't expose themselves to the flames of the critics. Solution; 1. Don't write stories, or 2. Turn off comments. (If a person is just a reader of stories; All I can say is; Just leave your own comment and walk away. Don't read the comments if they might trigger angst. Just walk away having enjoyed the story. The comments really are intended for the author anyway.)

I've had many comments much worse than comments on spelling & grammar. As an author, the mention of spelling/grammar issues simply reminds me to pay more attention next time; take the time to proof read it, get another person to proof read it — and assume we've missed something or two.

 

[born2rebellis]

You know what I've noticed for awhile now? Member accounts with a 2021 join date seem to be very angry — their posts are often acrimonious. Is it just the influence of so much social media? Perhaps it's just me who's noticing this.

But honestly, should a thread on story feedback be this full of angst and anger and insults? This reads more like a shouting match and an argument. I learned zip — zero from all of the words spilled on this.

Someone left a comment about some grammar mistakes — okay … that happens. So what?

Any author who doesn't want to endure the heat of the 'writer's kitchen', shouldn't expose themselves to the flames of the critics. Solution; 1. Don't write stories, or 2. Turn off comments. (If a person is just a reader of stories; All I can say is; Just leave your own comment and walk away. Don't read the comments if they might trigger angst. Just walk away having enjoyed the story. The comments really are intended for the author anyway.)

I've had many comments much worse than comments on spelling & grammar. As an author, the mention of spelling/grammar issues simply reminds me to pay more attention next time; take the time to proof read it, get another person to proof read it — and assume we've missed something or two.

As an Author, An Author is simply a faux occupation,
Everyone on this planet is an author and a philosopher in one way shape or form.

I’m not directing this at you personally, just in general.
The idea of an ‘’Author’ to me is simply just a false title that creates a sense of self righteousness and pretentiousness and allows for nobodies to feel as if they’re somebodies.

An author is just a false persona and cosplay character complete with the costume and fashion and not so unique behavioural traits.
All ‘Authors’ are to me are just hive minded individuals and completely disillusioned with themselves.
That is if they’re using the title as if they’re any different to anyone else on this earth, they’re not.

Authors are created by institutions, complete with idol-worshipping and self worth based upon a pyramid system, reminiscent of a religion, I refuse to be defined by such labels and categorise myself.

 

[jsmiam]

You know what I've noticed for awhile now? Member accounts with a 2021 join date seem to be very angry — their posts are often acrimonious. Is it just the influence of so much social media? Perhaps it's just me who's noticing this...

That was one of my reasons for asking. Not so much that it’s because they’re twenty-oners, but possibly some are the same person.

I take @born’s word, and having found the old post that seemed so familiar, I see now it was definitely a different person. THAT person who was so last July (literally) mentioned (their own self disclosure) having had 29 (I think) lit accounts over the years.
Edit: “so last September”, I should have said.

 

[born2rebellis]

You know what I've noticed for awhile now? Member accounts with a 2021 join date seem to be very angry — their posts are often acrimonious. Is it just the influence of so much social media? Perhaps it's just me who's noticing this.

But honestly, should a thread on story feedback be this full of angst and anger and insults? This reads more like a shouting match and an argument. I learned zip — zero from all of the words spilled on this.

Someone left a comment about some grammar mistakes — okay … that happens. So what?

Any author who doesn't want to endure the heat of the 'writer's kitchen', shouldn't expose themselves to the flames of the critics. Solution; 1. Don't write stories, or 2. Turn off comments. (If a person is just a reader of stories; All I can say is; Just leave your own comment and walk away. Don't read the comments if they might trigger angst. Just walk away having enjoyed the story. The comments really are intended for the author anyway.)

I've had many comments much worse than comments on spelling & grammar. As an author, the mention of spelling/grammar issues simply reminds me to pay more attention next time; take the time to proof read it, get another person to proof read it — and assume we've missed something or two.

You’re getting completely off track or maybe you didn’t read what I said, At no stage did make out like I resented critics, lol I enjoy critics if it’s constructive and warranted

I pointed out that many ‘people’ on this forum attempt to use criticism as a guise for other agendas with ulterior and sinister motives.


The classic behavioural traits of bullying are the result of jealousy calling good looking people who others are jealous of ‘ugly’ for example, this happens in day to day life all the time, therefore you fail to or simply refuse to acknowledge that this occurs on writing platforms where somebody cant possibly be fond of someone’s work and choose to tarnish it out of their own lack of ability and self loathing and use grammar and criticism as an outlet to vent their disturbances? Everything is just simple criticism to you and there’s no such thing as harassment, that’s completely impossible and some absurd idea and figment of my imagination I’m proposing?

Some people on this thread would make fantastic politicians with their classic doublespeak, It is however, not pulling the wool over my eyes or anyone with half a brain cell.

 

[ToPleaseHim]

You’re getting completely off track or maybe you didn’t read what I said, At no stage did make out like I resented critics, lol I enjoy critics if it’s constructive and warranted

I pointed out that many ‘people’ on this forum attempt to use criticism as a guise for other agendas with ulterior and sinister motives.


The classic behavioural traits of bullying are the result of jealousy calling good looking people who others are jealous of ‘ugly’ for example, this happens in day to day life all the time, therefore you fail to or simply refuse to acknowledge that this occurs on writing platforms where somebody cant possibly be fond of someone’s work and choose to tarnish it out of their own lack of ability and self loathing and use grammar and criticism as an outlet to vent their disturbances? Everything is just simple criticism to you and there’s no such thing as harassment, that’s completely impossible and some absurd idea and figment of my imagination I’m proposing?

Some people on this thread would make fantastic politicians with their classic doublespeak, It is however, not pulling the wool over my eyes or anyone with half a brain cell.

This is Literotica. The Lit part matters as much as the erotica. Creative writing has its place, but readers do need to be able to understand what they are reading or they won’t continue reading and may just blast the author with critical feedback.

Accusing people of misunderstanding you (and correlating that to bullying) because they disagree with you is a serious stretch. I disagree with you. If you perceive that as bullying, I highly recommend developing a thicker skin (and staying the hell away from the General Board).

You know what I've noticed for awhile now? Member accounts with a 2021 join date seem to be very angry — their posts are often acrimonious. Is it just the influence of so much social media? Perhaps it's just me who's noticing this.

But honestly, should a thread on story feedback be this full of angst and anger and insults? This reads more like a shouting match and an argument. I learned zip — zero from all of the words spilled on this.

Someone left a comment about some grammar mistakes — okay … that happens. So what?

Any author who doesn't want to endure the heat of the 'writer's kitchen', shouldn't expose themselves to the flames of the critics. Solution; 1. Don't write stories, or 2. Turn off comments. (If a person is just a reader of stories; All I can say is; Just leave your own comment and walk away. Don't read the comments if they might trigger angst. Just walk away having enjoyed the story. The comments really are intended for the author anyway.)

I've had many comments much worse than comments on spelling & grammar. As an author, the mention of spelling/grammar issues simply reminds me to pay more attention next time; take the time to proof read it, get another person to proof read it — and assume we've missed something or two.

Yes, so much anger and entitlement from so many new accounts. And the rants, oh the rants.

Are you going to abuse children with learning disabilities and tell them they have no right to feel worthy after handing in their short story


And when you get berated proceed to say “they didn’t respect the grammar!!”” Haha you nutcase maybe now you see how insane you are

THIS is your response to what Simon posted?!? How in the world did you leap to accusing of him of being an insane nutcase who abuses children? What the fuck, man? Incidentally children aren’t permitted to post here or submit stories, and I am staring agape at the suggestion that a child with a learning disability would proudly submit an erotic short story to this site. Are you reading what you write?

(BTW, before you accuse me of bullying disabled children, you should know that I’m actually a middle school ELA teacher who works with differently abled students. I absolutely understand grammar and its importance as well as the significance of creativity in writing, which I appreciate and celebrate. Internet rants like yours? Nah, can’t get behind that at all.)

 

[born2rebellis]

This is Literotica. The Lit part matters as much as the erotica. Creative writing has its place, but readers do need to be able to understand what they are reading or they won’t continue reading and may just blast the author with critical feedback.

Accusing people of misunderstanding you (and correlating that to bullying) because they disagree with you is a serious stretch. I disagree with you. If you perceive that as bullying, I highly recommend developing a thicker skin (and staying the hell away from the General Board).



Yes, so much anger and entitlement from so many new accounts. And the rants, oh the rants.



THIS is your response to what Simon posted?!? How in the world did you leap to accusing of him of being an insane nutcase who abuses children? What the fuck, man? Incidentally children aren’t permitted to post here or submit stories, and I am staring agape at the suggestion that a child with a learning disability would proudly submit an erotic short story to this site. Are you reading what you write?

(BTW, before you accuse me of bullying disabled children, you should know that I’m actually a middle school ELA teacher who works with differently abled students. I absolutely understand grammar and its importance as well as the significance of creativity in writing, which I appreciate and celebrate. Internet rants like yours? Nah, can’t get behind that at all.)

Lmfao you’re good at double-speak and putting words in peoples mouths aren’t you clown? I never accused ‘Simon’ of abusing disabled children, not literally, I said by the same standard according to his logic about grammar in GENERAL he would deem not only children, but anyone with a learning disability as having no right to feel worthy about there work if it has grammar/punctuation errors.

The only one accusing anyone here is you, falsely accusing me of accusing ‘Simon’ ...lol and again, nowhere did I make any mention anything about an minor posting a story on Literotica, Lol those are your words not mine, as I’ve mentioned twice now, I was referring to grammar in general and I was speaking hypothetically and you’ve intentionally taken that the wrong way as if I was speaking in a literal sense.

If you weren’t being obtuse, then it’s because you’re genuinely stupid, you’re either stupid or just playing stupid, you decide, also, I couldn’t care what you ‘get behind’ as I couldn’t give a shit about whether I have your approval or NOT.

Who the fuck do you think you actually are? Thinking I care for your approval?

 

[born2rebellis]

Lmfao you’re good at double-speak and putting words in peoples mouths aren’t you clown? I never accused Simon of abusing disabled children, not literally, I said by the same standard according to his logic about grammar in GENERAL he would deem not only children, but anyone with a learning disability as having no right to feel worthy about their work of it has grammar/punctuation errors.

The one one accusing anyone here is you, falsely accusing me of accusing ‘Simon’ ...lol and again, nowhere did I make any mention about an underaged posting a story on Literotica, LoL those are your words not mine, as I’ve mentioned twice now, I was referring to grammar in general and I was speaking hypothetically and you’ve intentionally taken that the wrong way as d I was speaking in a literal sense

If you weren’t being obtuse, then it’s because you’re genuinely stupid, you’re either stupid or just playing stupid, you decide, also, I couldn’t care what you ‘get behind’ as I couldn’t give a shit about whether I have your approval or NOT

Who the fuck do you think you actually are? Thinking I care for your approval?

PS the irony of ranting your angst towards an internet rant haha maybe you should apply your own advice and actually think about what you’re doing before you do it that’s if you’re even capable of thought.

 

[born2rebellis]

This is Literotica. The Lit part matters as much as the erotica. Creative writing has its place, but readers do need to be able to understand what they are reading or they won’t continue reading and may just blast the author with critical feedback.

Accusing people of misunderstanding you (and correlating that to bullying) because they disagree with you is a serious stretch. I disagree with you. If you perceive that as bullying, I highly recommend developing a thicker skin (and staying the hell away from the General Board).



Yes, so much anger and entitlement from so many new accounts. And the rants, oh the rants.



THIS is your response to what Simon posted?!? How in the world did you leap to accusing of him of being an insane nutcase who abuses children? What the fuck, man? Incidentally children aren’t permitted to post here or submit stories, and I am staring agape at the suggestion that a child with a learning disability would proudly submit an erotic short story to this site. Are you reading what you write?

(BTW, before you accuse me of bullying disabled children, you should know that I’m actually a middle school ELA teacher who works with differently abled students. I absolutely understand grammar and its importance as well as the significance of creativity in writing, which I appreciate and celebrate. Internet rants like yours? Nah, can’t get behind that at all.)

So much entitlement from new accounts!! Haha do you honestly believe because you’ve been on a forum longer than someone else that this makes you morally superior? LOL!!!!

That would make you the entitled one you imbecile.


Also, raving on about ‘thicker skin’ and ‘anger’ you make me laugh honestly, especially because you’re so sensitive, triggered and butt-hurt LOL

What makes you think I give a flying fuck about your ‘accolades’ either? Even if they were true? You think I’d actually take any claims seriously from random text-on-a-screen on the internet? Haha how stupid do you actually think I am?
Literally everything you’re accusing me of is just a projection of yourself.

‘Take heed my warning, stay away from the precious general board’ LMFAO!! You say that as if ‘the general board’ is actually some significant part of your life which is so incredibly sad.

 

[SimonDoom]

Somebody needs to round up the rabid dog and put him down. It would be a mercy and a blessing for all of us.

Except for the rabid dog, of course. But I don't think he'll even notice.

 

[ToPleaseHim]

So much entitlement from new accounts!! Haha do you honestly believe because you’ve been on a forum longer than someone else that this makes you morally superior? LOL!!!!

That would make you the entitled one you imbecile.


Also, raving on about ‘thicker skin’ and ‘anger’ you make me laugh honestly, especially because you’re so sensitive, triggered and butt-hurt LOL

What makes you think I give a flying fuck about your ‘accolades’ either? Even if they were true? You think I’d actually take any claims seriously from random text-on-a-screen on the internet? Haha how stupid do you actually think I am?
Literally everything you’re accusing me of is just a projection of yourself.

‘Take heed my warning, stay away from the precious general board’ LMFAO!! You say that as if ‘the general board’ is actually some significant part of your life which is so incredibly sad.

Quoted for irony.

 

[born2rebellis]

Somebody needs to round up the rabid dog and put him down. It would be a mercy and a blessing for all of us.

Except for the rabid dog, of course. But I don't think he'll even notice.

I’m sure your bum-buddy ‘to please him’ will be incredibly disappointed by your remarks, since he was so outraged by me ‘accusing you of abusing disabled children’

And me being filled with ‘anger’ I wonder what the hypocrite has to say about you wanting to have someone murdered and making death threats towards a random person on a forum they’ve never even met all because they disagree with them over something so trivial HAHA

if that ain’t anger, wanting someone dead, then I don’t know what anger is.


Do you really feel that threatened by me that you wish I were dead? Rather then counter anything civilly or refute my logic , all you can do is resort to death threats? LMfAO this speaks serious volumes.

 

[lovecraft68]

Kudos to the OP, 60+ posts and people still haven't figured out this has become performance art.

'Rabid Dog'

 

[SimonDoom]

I’m sure your bum-buddy ‘to please him’ will be incredibly disappointed by your remarks, since he was so outraged by me ‘accusing you of abusing disabled children’

And me being filled with ‘anger’ I wonder what the hypocrite has to say about you wanting to have someone murdered and making death threats towards a random person on a forum they’ve never even met all because they disagree with them over something so trivial HAHA

if that ain’t anger, wanting someone dead, then I don’t know what anger is.


Do you really feel that threatened by me that you wish I were dead? Rather then counter anything civilly or refute my logic , all you can do is resort to death threats? LMfAO this speaks serious volumes.

If you truly think my comment was a death threat, then it says all one needs to know about your judgment. Which is to say, you have none. You are ranting, and you are getting some sort of twisted pleasure out of your ranting, and everyone outside your basement knows it.

 

[born2rebellis]

Quoted for irony.

Here’s some irony for you.


I start a thread about trolls harassing people on this forum, to which you say doesn’t exist, 2 pages into the thread and there’s someone on here in which you defend, claiming they wish I were dead, and that someone should kill me, as it would be a blessing to everyone.

Put that irony in your pipe and smoke it, clown.

 

[ToPleaseHim]

I’m sure your bum-buddy ‘to please him’ will be incredibly disappointed by your remarks, since he was so outraged by me ‘accusing you of abusing disabled children’

And me being filled with ‘anger’ I wonder what the hypocrite has to say about you wanting to have someone murdered and making death threats towards a random person on a forum they’ve never even met all because they disagree with them over something so trivial HAHA

if that ain’t anger, wanting someone dead, then I don’t know what anger is.


Do you really feel that threatened by me that you wish I were dead? Rather then counter anything civilly or refute my logic , all you can do is resort to death threats? LMfAO this speaks serious volumes.

Your anger is palpable, man, and over some trivial shit. Maybe consider an anger management course? Also, I don’t know Simon. We are just a couple of rational people reading you similarly. Incidentally, I’m a chick.

 

[SimonDoom]

Kudos to the OP, 60+ posts and people still haven't figured out this has become performance art.

'Rabid Dog'

You're right. My bad.