Infrastructure Bill

[FGB]

No I have not read it.

It may be full of crap we do not need...I don't know I have not read it.

One thing I do know is that this freaking country is falling apart.
The Highways and Byways...Bridges and Underpass/Overpass need some repair and replacing.

And we need some new ones also.

Some will say that it is a State issue (and some states are carrying on without enough or very little funding from the US Government)

Recently, Texas passed this

https://ballotpedia.org/Texas_Propo...cture_Bonds_in_Blighted_Areas_Amendment_(2021)

What good are Roads and Highways if you can't drive over them?

Just MY opinion...I could be wrong.

 

[bellisarius]

Here's what's reportedly in it;

infrastructure

I didn't break out the calculator but what was reported doesn't seem to add up to $1.2 trillion to me.

 

[FGB]

Huh.

So they plan to pay for it mostly by vacuuming up unspent money from other things?

That sure doesn't sound like our Government inaction!

 

[Champakian]

This might help you too: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...6-takeaways-on-the-biden-infrastructure-bill/

 

[bellisarius]

Huh.

So they plan to pay for it mostly by vacuuming up unspent money from other things?

That sure doesn't sound like our Government inaction!

It's the shell game they play. I'm sure there are more than a few out there convinced that it's costing the taxpayer nothing.

That being said, I'm all for tackling the infrastructure. My problem is regarding that part of the $1.2 trillion NOT accounted for in the link I provided.

The other bothersome part is the fact that in many jurisdictions the greater part of those monies will go for "Feasibility Studies", "Environmental Impact Studies", "Endangered Specie" challenges, and other expenditures that do nothing to repair the infrastructure.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

With the passing of the infrasture bill and the booming stock market, Biden is on his way to a second term.

 

[Champakian]

It's the shell game they play. I'm sure there are more than a few out there convinced that it's costing the taxpayer nothing.

That being said, I'm all for tackling the infrastructure. My problem is regarding that part of the $1.2 trillion NOT accounted for in the link I provided.

The other bothersome part is the fact that in many jurisdictions the greater part of those monies will go for "Feasibility Studies", "Environmental Impact Studies", "Endangered Specie" challenges, and other expenditures that do nothing to repair the infrastructure.

The hidden Green Tax on the US citizenry...

 

[phrodeau]

We will build gleaming new roads, bridges, highways, railways, and waterways all across our land. And we will do it with American heart, and American hands, and American grit.

https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/white-house-press-release-building-stronger-america

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

We will build gleaming new roads, bridges, highways, railways, and waterways all across our land. And we will do it with American heart, and American hands, and American grit.

https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/white-house-press-release-building-stronger-america

These are all useful and my hope is most of the money will go to these things. I have not read the final bill but know it includes some wasteful things.

For example there’s no reason for the government to fund charging stations. Government funded gas stations were not needed to jump start the combustion engine auto industry a century ago and government subsidized charging stations are not needed to stimulate EVs today.

Same with broadband. Providers don’t need the government to fund their capex investments.

Amtrak bleeds red ink. Throwing good money after bad is unwise.

That said, all big bipartisan spending bills contain waste. Highway bills are notorious for waste. But I can live with some inevitable waste if we get some true infrastructure out of it.

It’s the social spending that is of much greater concern. I’m heartened by Manchin’s consistent insistence on means testing, sunset clauses, and workfare, and by his instance that there be no budget gimmicks or radical tax hikes. We’ll see if he holds the line and minimizes the damage in the reconciliation bill. He’s already cut the price tag by a couple trillion, so that’s a good start. And now that the bipartisan infrastructure bill has passed, Bernie and the rest of the progressive extremists are in a weaker position.

 

[icanhelp1]

Here's what's reportedly in it;

infrastructure

I didn't break out the calculator but what was reported doesn't seem to add up to $1.2 trillion to me.

What isn’t in the bill is one dime for border security. Republicans who voted for this bill without demanding money for border security are a disgrace, complicit with perpetuating a Marxist agenda.

 

[oggbashan]

What isn’t in the bill is one dime for border security. Republicans who voted for this bill without demanding money for border security are a disgrace, complicit with perpetuating a Marxist agenda.

Marxist? Repairing the US's decrepit infrastructure? What planet are you on?

Communist countries tend not to have infrastructure (except China that is spending billions of US dollars on railroads and highways).

 

[adrina]

We will build gleaming new roads, bridges, highways, railways, and waterways all across our land. And we will do it with American heart, and American hands, and American grit.

https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/white-house-press-release-building-stronger-america

In two weeks. Along with his perfect tremendous healthcare plan.

 

[icanhelp1]

Marxist? Repairing the US's decrepit infrastructure? What planet are you on?

Communist countries tend not to have infrastructure (except China that is spending billions of US dollars on railroads and highways..

I never wrote that infrastructure funding is not needed.

Not to include funding for border security is ludicrous. Republicans not insisting on controlling our borders before voting on any bill is playing into the Marxist agenda ** OPEN BORDERS** the structure of the house which had defectors on the Democrat side republicans could have played hardball and got funding for comprehensive border security, increasing funding for ICE and CBP and finish construction of the Wall.

 

[oggbashan]

The wall that Trump promised to build and spent four years NOT building?

 

[icanhelp1]

The wall that Trump promised to build and spent four years NOT building?

He had some of it built which is credit to his tenacity. Dealing with that idiot Pelosi who owns the purse strings is difficult at best. Then we have that incompetent fool in the W H just letting sections of wall bought and paid for rot on the ground is the Marxist agenda I speak of. I’m sure your borders are more secure than ours.

 

[phrodeau]

Border security is in the DHS budget, which is one of the bills Republicans kicked down the road to December.

 

[KeithD]

Fact: For four years under Donald Trump and the Republicans we had periodic "Infrastructure Week" but no plan, no bills, no bill passage. Ten months under Joe Biden and a tenuous Democratic parity and plans were made, bills exist, one has passed.

Fact.

 

[KeithD]

The hidden Green Tax on the US citizenry...

And who in the hell do you think should pay for repair and expansion of U.S. infrastructure and keeping the planet habitable?

Find a brain.

 

[phrodeau]

And who in the hell do you think should pay for repair and expansion of U.S. infrastructure and keeping the planet habitable?

Find a brain.

Trump’s plan cost more, and relied on state and local funding, otherwise known as tax money.

 

[Pad_Foot]

Spend more on Trump’s piece of shit wall?
Hell no
We wasted money on prototypes.. and he built what one of his supporters could supply
Totally climbable
Piece of crap!!

Continuous drones.. with AI would be far better
Until they can shoot them down

Or those “Jewish Space Lasers”!!

 

[Sugar Baby Wanted]

Spend more on Trump’s piece of shit wall?
Hell no
We wasted money on prototypes.. and he built what one of his supporters could supply
Totally climbable
Piece of crap!!

Continuous drones.. with AI would be far better
Until they can shoot them down

Or those “Jewish Space Lasers”!!

The dem plan is not to stop them, didn't you know that the open borders is part of his one world government?

 

[pecksniff]

Amtrak bleeds red ink. Throwing good money after bad is unwise.

All mass transit systems operate at a loss. That is expected. They're public utilities, they're what you spend taxes on. Paved streets and roads cost a fortune and collect no revenue at all.

 

[pecksniff]

The dem plan is not to stop them, didn't you know that the open borders is part of his one world government?

If only!

 

[CornusKousa]

If only!

Peck is in denial of reality again.

 

[pecksniff]

What isn’t in the bill is one dime for border security. Republicans who voted for this bill without demanding money for border security are a disgrace, complicit with perpetuating a Marxist agenda.

There is no connection between border security or lack thereof, and any Marxist agenda. You sound like those 1960s Southern whites carrying signs that said "RACE-MIXING IS COMMUNISM." Actually, Marx had nothing to say about race relations. He might have believed as most white people of his time did, that non-whites are mentally inferior by heredity, or he might not have -- there is no way of knowing.