Trump demands McConnell's ouster

[pecksniff]

Story.

This week, the Kentucky Republican engineered a deal with Senate Democrats to temporarily lift the debt ceiling over Trump’s objections and calls for his replacement as the chamber’s top Republican, a perch he has occupied for almost 15 years. It is part of a pattern that has repeated itself since the former president’s defeat last November. Trump insists McConnell support or oppose some policy or take some course of action, and the minority leader demurs.

Trump lately has escalated his feud with McConnell by advocating for his removal as the Senate minority leader. “Mitch is not the guy, not the right guy, he’s not doing the job,” he told Fox News’s Sean Hannity. McConnell’s reaction has been the same — no reaction; and not the slightest hint of altering his leadership strategy to satisfy a former president who happens to maintain a great deal of support among grassroots Republican voters.

“McConnell has one goal: helping Republicans regain control of the Senate for the purpose of enacting Republican policy goals and stifling the Democratic agenda,” said Scott Jennings, a Republican operative in Louisville and longtime McConnell adviser. “Trump lurches from one public relations [gambit] to the next; McConnell plays a longer game where there are actual political and policy goals at the end of a journey.”

 

[KeithD]

Sure, let them chew on each other. They both deserve it.

 

[pecksniff]

The disturbing thing is that Trump seems convinced he's still politically relevant, and matters more than a pol with decades of Senate time.

 

[KeithD]

The disturbing thing is that Trump seems convinced he's still politically relevant, and matters more than a pol with decades of Senate time.

Even more disturbing is that the board Trumpettes seem convinced Trump is still politically relevant.

 

[pecksniff]

Even more disturbing is that the board Trumpettes seem convinced Trump is still politically relevant.

Except when they're calling out libs for harping on Trump as if he still mattered -- "TDS."

 

[icanhelp1]

Except when they're calling out libs for harping on Trump as if he still mattered -- "TDS."

You should be worried, Just like what Hillary did that incompetent fool Biden will put Trump back in office.

 

[Biggs_Darklighter]

How is Trump not still relevant?

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

My man Mitch isn’t stepping down.

 

[CornusKousa]

The GOP needs to ditch teh puss puss cuckservatives.

Mitch needs to go.

 

[Veroe]

McConnell's not going anywhere. He's too damned good at the game and the GOP members know it while Trump is just too bumbling and incompetent and ham-handed at it.

Even his concession that Trump criticized offering to help the Dems kick the can down the road on the debt ceiling plays into Mitch's diabolical strategy. I think Mitch wants to force the Dems to use their last budget reconciliation go this term on it rather than the build back better act leaving them very little to tout what they did to help every day Americans during the midterms when the Republicans have an excellent chance of regaining the house and senate.

Trump is just too dumb to see how a real master plays this game.

 

[CornusKousa]

McConnell's not going anywhere. He's too damned good at the game and the GOP members know it while Trump is just too bumbling and incompetent and ham-handed at it.

Even his concession that Trump criticized offering to help the Dems kick the can down the road on the debt ceiling plays into Mitch's diabolical strategy. I think Mitch wants to force the Dems to use their last budget reconciliation go this term on it rather than the build back better act leaving them very little to tout what they did to help every day Americans during the midterms when the Republicans have an excellent chance of regaining the house and senate.

Trump is just too dumb to see how a real master plays this game.

Plays the game to what end???

What is Mitch's objective?? To slow down the (D)'eez....eventually giving them whatever they want.


That's it... and that's not good enough. That's not a winning strategy.

 

[Veroe]

Plays the game to what end???

What is Mitch's objective?? To slow down the (D)'eez....eventually giving them whatever they want.


That's it... and that's not good enough. That's not a winning strategy.

The republicans taking back the house and senate and preventing the dems from raising taxes on corporations and rich people that happen to be donors to his old gaurd "Business friendly" libertarian republicans. The money and the power is his objectives-and also you know winning the next round of the great game of party politics in washington.

He doesn't really give a shit about what Trump supporters want outside of a few meaningless comments that sound like he's in support of Trump's agenda when in actuality he wants to coopt their energy to further his agenda stated above.

If you see politics like he does as every election year as the rounds of an unending great game he's playing in and the score is how many seats in the senate you win after each round it is indeed a winning strategy. Pelosi sees politics the same way just from the democrat team's perspective. I think its hard to work in senate or house or in washington in general and not to start looking at politics through the lense of the great game.

 

[CornusKousa]

The republicans taking back the house and senate and preventing the dems from raising taxes on corporations and rich people that happen to be donors to his old gaurd "Business friendly" libertarian republicans. The money and the power is his objectives-and also you know winning the next round of the great game of party politics in washington.

That's happening regardless of what Mitch does now.

That's because of (D)'eez being dog shit ... not (R)'s being amazing.

And the tax cuts for everyone are just a microscopic part of it.

He doesn't really give a shit about what Trump supporters want outside of a few meaningless comments that sound like he's in support of Trump's agenda when in actuality he wants to coopt their energy to further his agenda stated above.

Exactly, he has no fight back, he's not pushing for any freedom, any limited federal authority, nothing.

Might as well be a fucking Democrat, friend and ally to the totalitarian nanny state gang.

If you see politics like he does as every election year as the rounds of an unending great game he's playing in and the score is how many seats in the senate you win after each round it is indeed a winning strategy.

I think if it were really about seats he were after he would be at least somewhat of a populist.

But he's just a stick in the mud, no fight back.

Pelosi sees politics the same way just from the democrat team's perspective. I think its hard to work in senate or house or in washington in general and not to start looking at politics through the lense of the great game.

And that would be fine if "winning" the great game meant doing something with it.

Let's just say (R)'s take EVERY FUCKING SEAT IN CONGRESS........ so what??

They get the WH in 2024 and own the entire US government for 20 fucking years solid....100% able to do what they want.

They would do NOTHING.

So what is the god damn point???

 

[Veroe]

But McConnell and Pelosi are both winning the game. They're fucking millionaires dude and get to feel like very important and powerful people wherever they go.

Progressing the conservative or liberal agenda they might get to doing as icing on the cake maybe if the circumstances are right for them to keep winning the game as in them personally making money and feeling like important people.

 

[Cubantripod]

Trump needs to just go away at this point. He lost the election because of his own ego. Then he was more concerned with creating a cloud around Biden's victory as payback that he cost the Republicans the two Georgia seats.

 

[ll74]

Story.

Trumpies would fall in line. But McConnell has a better understanding of endurance...Trump goes for immediate headlines.

**For trumpy reference, see below

 

[CornusKousa]

But McConnell and Pelosi are both winning the game. They're fucking millionaires dude and get to feel like very important and powerful people wherever they go.

Progressing the conservative or liberal agenda they might get to doing as icing on the cake maybe if the circumstances are right for them to keep winning the game as in them personally making money and feeling like important people.

And that is why Trump is 100% correct....the old guard needs to go.

 

[pecksniff]

The GOP needs to ditch teh puss puss cuckservatives.

That term usually means conservatives insufficiently racist.

Mitch needs to go.

In whose favor?

 

[pecksniff]

And that is why Trump is 100% correct....the old guard needs to go.

The Old Guard of the GOP are simply pro-business-interests.

The insurgents are nationalist-populist Tea Partiers, which is even worse.

 

[pecksniff]

And that would be fine if "winning" the great game meant doing something with it.

Let's just say (R)'s take EVERY FUCKING SEAT IN CONGRESS........ so what??

They get the WH in 2024 and own the entire US government for 20 fucking years solid....100% able to do what they want.

They would do NOTHING.

So what is the god damn point???

What should they do? Do they want the federal government doing anything?!

 

[ll74]

Originally Posted by CornusKousa
And that would be fine if "winning" the great game meant doing something with it.

Let's just say (R)'s take EVERY FUCKING SEAT IN CONGRESS........ so what??

They get the WH in 2024 and own the entire US government for 20 fucking years solid....100% able to do what they want.

They would do NOTHING.

Man who says Congress doing nothing is a good thing pretends the he wants Congress to do something

 

[CornusKousa]

Man who says Congress doing nothing is a good thing pretends the he wants Congress to do something

Where did I say Congress doing nothing is a good thing??

Nothing pretend about the very specific policies I support.

IL74.... as full of fucking shit as ever.

 

[pecksniff]

Where did I say Congress doing nothing is a good thing??

Nothing pretend about the very specific policies I support.

IL74.... as full of fucking shit as ever.

See post #20.

 

[Veroe]

And that is why Trump is 100% correct....the old guard needs to go.

Agreed for both parties but getting them out is going to be tough road to go down because both will use every weapon in the arsenal even-gasp-working with the other side-to stay in their positions of power. Its why both republicans and democrats both fear more a primary challenger than running against the other party in their reelection campaigns.

 

[CornusKousa]

That term usually means conservatives insufficiently racist.

Only in the minds of racist lefties.

In whose favor?

A liberal nationalist and populist.... I think Tulsi Gabbard would kill it.

The Old Guard of the GOP are simply pro-business-interests.

Bullshit, they are pro-themselves interest.

The insurgents are nationalist-populist Tea Partiers, which is even worse.

Liberalism and nationalism aren't worse and IMO exactly what this nation needs a giant shot of.

What should they do? Do they want the federal government doing anything?!

Of course, they aren't anarchist.

You do realize there is a whole lot between your totalitarian nanny state fantasies where the state controls every aspect of your life from cradle to grave and not having any government of any kind right??

National defense, infrastructure, interstate and international trade and commerce.

But they should be ACTIVELY RESTRICTING it to those things.

Everything else needs to go back to the states, and the feds biggest involvement should be as a legal mediator/rule maker for facilitating interstate alliances/trade/resource pooling etc.

ALL of the hot button social issues?? Need to be actively and overtly made STATE level issues.