Gun politics.

bellisarius

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Spurious 2nd amendment arguments aside, it's no secret that Americans have been on a gun buying spree since early 2020. Record numbers almost every month. The primary driver(s) of this were the Antifa/BLM riots, de-fund the police initiatives, and the Wuhan Flu.

What is less discussed is that over 40% of those buyers are new gun owners. That is a substantial jump from previous statistics. What's even more interesting is that women make up almost 50% of those new owners. Even more interesting is that 23% of those new women owners are black.

The majority of those new guns are semi-automatic pistols and primarily either 380 or 9mm. Easy to conceal, easy to handle by smaller hands. As a first gun this makes perfect sense.

What is lesser known is that more and more women are opting for the AR for home defense. While I don't necessarily agree with that decision, those decisions are also perfectly sensible.

I find that I am training more and more women on the care and feeding to the AR on a monthly basis. And even that is interesting in that because of the political stigma the AR has been painted with they don't want their friends and neighbors to know that they own an AR. Even so, they LOVE the AR. They make comments such as, "This is FUN!" or, "it's so cute." and such. Bottom line, once they shoot it, they love it. To be certain they still represent a small portion of the market, but it's growing.

And that brings us to the politics. As women are starting to represent a growing portion of gun owners, and among them there is a growing portion of those that own AR's the potential for restrictions on gun ownership fall. Women are taking ownership of their own well being and learning their ability to fend off attackers. They are quickly learning the old advertising line, "God created men, but Col. Colt made them all equal" has merit. They are enjoying the level of empowerment, and subsequent lack of fear, that ownership and the ability to use the tool gives them. Quite frankly my students, after the initial apprehension, express an enthusiasm that borders on a climax.

And that does NOT bode well for the gun grabbers. A great deal of their political base are female, single and/or suburban. These women are more confident in their ability to protect themselves, their families, and those around them. Meaning they are less susceptible to the use of fear tactics when making voting decisions. And that translates into them being considerably less likely to be wooed by the politicians that want to restrict, or remove, that sense of empowerment from them. The line that, "you don't need that for hunting" causes them to turn a deaf ear. They aren't hunters and most of them never will be, their motivation comes from an entirely different direction.

Returning back to the reasons that gun ownership is spiking and that more and more women are joining the ranks is the underlying notion that those who want to severely restrict, and in some cases out and out outlaw, gun ownership were intentionally allowing the lawlessness we saw occur, and in some cases even encouraging that behavior for the very purpose of pushing their 'gun control' agenda. In some cases, not all, there are some true believers out there, that is absolutely true. Those 'true believers' and the rest are going to have to address the changing demographics of gun owners. So far their 'sales tactics' haven't changed and the longer they go on singing the same song the worse the outcome for their agenda.

The anti-gunners are left with two alternatives as I see it. Brut force a ban right now fully knowing that they will subject themselves to great political risk or continue to try to nibble away at the fringes making no substantial headway but being able to crow to their constituents that they 'did something.' This will be the choices of the existing gun banning group. They are far too entrenched in their agenda to change. What their agenda will morph into a generation from now remains to be seen, the current leadership of the movement will be gone and the up and comers will be dealing with a new reality.

As a side note, it's going to be interesting to see what impact the new legislation potentially requiring young women to register for the draft will have on attitudes towards guns and ownership of same.
 
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Great, more dipshits with a gun fetish owning ARs.

I wonder how many of those women are going to get dispossessed of those "cute" ARs by opportunistic criminals who find out they own them.

Even a 9mm is a tempting target for criminals, but at least I believe the women who are buying 9mms are being sensible about their purchase.

Hopefully they shoot a few right wing terrorists / rapist before they shoot themselves or an innocent in an adjacent apartment or home. Unfortunately, I can already picture these gun neophytes opening up with an AR or 9mm without considering what's in their line of fire after being startled by a noise or a shadow in the middle of the night.

Murica

JFC

:rolleyes:
 
Returning back to the reasons that gun ownership is spiking and that more and more women are joining the ranks is the underlying notion that those who want to severely restrict, and in some cases out and out outlaw, gun ownership were intentionally allowing the lawlessness we saw occur, and in some cases even encouraging that behavior for the very purpose of pushing their 'gun control' agenda.

IOW, a form of idiocy bordering on insanity is becoming more and more widespread.

You really should not find this an encouraging trend, as you obviously do.
 
I bought my daughter a pink AR-15 this weekend...

The AR-15 is a nice rifle, and that was not something I said for a lot of years. Myself, I liked the harder hitting AK-47, having taken my first deer with it. But for home defense, the AR-15 fitted with sub-sonic hollow point, or soft leaded law enforcement rounds, has good stopping power. With its low recoil, light weight, low cost, and ability to fire many rounds at an intruder, it makes perfect sense for woman to buy to defend themselves. Or anyone for that matter.

My hair stylist is a single Mom with 3 kids and used her government Covid money to buy a 9mm and AR-15.

She is not alone. My in the middle of nowhere, not so big local gun shop, is selling 1500 guns per month, and has for a year and a half.
 
I own a couple of dozen guns.

Exactly one is an AR. Pretty weak fetish there...
 
An AR-15 is a really bad self defense gun, and it's not really all that good for deer hunting, for the price. It's a novelty and fun to shoot at the range, but for self-defense and/or hunting? Nah. There are better choices.
 
An AR-15 is a really bad self defense gun, and it's not really all that good for deer hunting, for the price. It's a novelty and fun to shoot at the range, but for self-defense and/or hunting? Nah. There are better choices.

A better home defense weapon is not a gun at all. To engage or not to....just saying.

I'm fairly certain guns will be fully regulated when you traitors attempt an armed over throw of the current govt.... it's just a matter of time.
 
An AR-15 is a really bad self defense gun, and it's not really all that good for deer hunting, for the price. It's a novelty and fun to shoot at the range, but for self-defense and/or hunting? Nah. There are better choices.

5.56 is a varmint round, good in combat for maiming and sustainability but you're right, it's not the best "man stopper".

That all being said an AR in .223/5.56 will still have home invaders that didn't come prepared with flash bangs and a fire team stacked on the door fucking off pretty quick. It's easy to handle, especially for smaller folks like petite women, elderly folks etc. and they can stay in that fight longer rolling with 30rd mags.


Good thing there is no need to compromise because you can get AR's in pretty much any caliber you want!!!

MAXIMUM FREEDOM!!!!!
https://c.tenor.com/zdfZwjZ5J_oAAAAC/usa-freedom.gif

Like .50 Beowulf and my personal favorite .458socom, which are FANTASTIC close range/home defense weapons. I mean, 300-600gr moving at 1900~ish fps?? LOL... that's about as close to "immediate threat neutralization" as it gets for a carbine.

Your age is showing. Next you'll be telling us about the 1911.

The Cadillac of hand guns....
 
A better home defense weapon is not a gun at all. To engage or not to....just saying.

I'm fairly certain guns will be fully regulated when you traitors attempt an armed over throw of the current govt.... it's just a matter of time.

I own an AR, but my home defense weapon of choice is a 12 gage shotgun. Main consideration for me is range. An intruder will be at close range, and possibly in the dark. Hard to miss with a 12 gage with home defense barrel. Also no danger of the round penetrating walls and injuring an unintended target. Shooting is a great sport. It’s great that more Americans are taking it up, especially women. This segment of the sporting goods business is doing well.
 
A better home defense weapon is not a gun at all. To engage or not to....just saying.

I'm fairly certain guns will be fully regulated when you traitors attempt an armed over throw of the current govt.... it's just a matter of time.

An armed overthrow isn't necessary as long as there are candy ass Constitution hating leftist like yourself thinking that it could happen. Meanwhile I will take great pleasure popping off a few hundred rounds with my family and friends while we enjoy our Constitutional right that "Shall Not Be Infringed."
 
An intruder will be at close range, and possibly in the dark. Hard to miss with a 12 gage with home defense barrel.

It's pretty easy actually.

Shotguns are not as spray and prey as you and some others might think.

Get a tac-light, mount it to your weapon.

1) this blinds whoever you light up with it, and you will get that split second deer in the headlight tactical advantage with it.

2) you get to positively ID your target so you don't shoot someone you didn't want to and

3) lock up a sight picture, you still have to aim a shotgun.

Also no danger of the round penetrating walls and injuring an unintended target.

ABSOLUTELY DEADLY WRONG.

I don't know who told you that but they're ignorant as fuck.

Sheetrock doesn't stop shit and plywood/plastic siding doesn't do all that much better. Bird, buck and slugs all go right the fuck through standard construction walls like they were warm butter..... will it take a significantly fewer number of walls/material to stop birdshot than an armor piercing .308? Sure.

But even birdshot is still making it through a few.

Be careful where you shoot ;)
 
Another challenged by the English language.

I think I understood your sentence well enough. You said some of this gun-buying is motivated by a belief that certain PTB were "allowing the lawlessness" to provide a pretext for gun-grabbing. That belief is a form of idiocy bordering on insanity, as CTs almost always are.
 
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An AR-15 is a really bad self defense gun, and it's not really all that good for deer hunting, for the price. It's a novelty and fun to shoot at the range, but for self-defense and/or hunting? Nah. There are better choices.

You're assuming all ARs discussed here are chambered in 5.56 or .223 Rem. I have 5 in 6.8 SPC, 1 in 6.5 Grendel, and a few other ARs that I tinker with in other calibers (277 Wolverine and wildcats). 223 is not optimal, but shot placement is king. 6.8 SPC is an awesome deer round and works much better on humans out to 250 yards. Don't sell the platform short.
 
I own an AR, but my home defense weapon of choice is a 12 gage shotgun. Main consideration for me is range. An intruder will be at close range, and possibly in the dark. Hard to miss with a 12 gage with home defense barrel. Also no danger of the round penetrating walls and injuring an unintended target. Shooting is a great sport. It’s great that more Americans are taking it up, especially women. This segment of the sporting goods business is doing well.

Paul Harrell has a YouTube video on 12 gauge/410 gage drywall penetration tests. 00 and 000 pellets do have some tendencies to pop through drywall. Especially the infamous "9th" pellet.
 
It's pretty easy actually.

Shotguns are not as spray and prey as you and some others might think.

Get a tac-light, mount it to your weapon.

1) this blinds whoever you light up with it, and you will get that split second deer in the headlight tactical advantage with it.

2) you get to positively ID your target so you don't shoot someone you didn't want to and

3) lock up a sight picture, you still have to aim a shotgun.



ABSOLUTELY DEADLY WRONG.

I don't know who told you that but they're ignorant as fuck.

Sheetrock doesn't stop shit and plywood/plastic siding doesn't do all that much better. Bird, buck and slugs all go right the fuck through standard construction walls like they were warm butter..... will it take a significantly fewer number of walls/material to stop birdshot than an armor piercing .308? Sure.

But even birdshot is still making it through a few.

Be careful where you shoot ;)

https://youtu.be/ny67ZNy4zwQ

The Paul Harrell series on the shotgun topic.
 
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