how the hell are these thugs still employed as cops?

[butters]

• call from neighbour saying they think a couple are arguing
  
• cops arrive but are informed by a uniformed arizona cop with Arizona Department of Public Safety that the occupant is mentally ill (a schizophrenic, in this case) known for having arguments with herself
  
• they force entry despite no warrant
  
• give conflicting orders for her to come out of her bedroom where she was harming no-one
  
• taze her when she tells them they are acting illegally, for 'obstruction', and one officer telling another to 'drop her' meaning to shoot her...a call the other officer did NOT carry out

3 cops, one mentally ill woman. father brought the lawsuit against them. bad enough she has to cope with living with schizophrenia, without not even being safe from thug cops in her own bedroom. fucking throw the book at them, especially this cunt overton who should have been fired a long time ago!

According to a report from Phoenix ABC affiliate KNXV-TV, Police Chief Dale Walters last year apologized for the officers’ conduct and suspended Overton for using his Taser in violation of department policy. The report also said that Overton had “racked up misconduct cases including six police car crashes, sexual harassment of a co-worker, mishandled DUI investigations, failure to follow police procedure in a domestic violence case, and refusing to go to a call at a mental health facility.”

The lawsuit alleges that City of Globe police officers Jeffrey Overton, Matthew Ortiz, and Natalia Lomahoema violated Burns’ Fourth Amendment rights by unlawfully entering her apartment, falsely imprisoning her, and using unjustifiably excessive force against her in a manner that amounted to assault and battery.

https://lawandcrime.com/lawsuit/ari...r-own-bedroom-lawsuit/?utm_source=mostpopular

 

[Lazaran]

• call from neighbour saying they think a couple are arguing
  
• cops arrive but are informed by a uniformed arizona cop with Arizona Department of Public Safety that the occupant is mentally ill (a schizophrenic, in this case) known for having arguments with herself
  
• they force entry despite no warrant
  
• give conflicting orders for her to come out of her bedroom where she was harming no-one
  
• taze her when she tells them they are acting illegally, for 'obstruction', and one officer telling another to 'drop her' meaning to shoot her...a call the other officer did NOT carry out

3 cops, one mentally ill woman. father brought the lawsuit against them. nad enough she has to cope with living with schizophrenia, without not even being safe from thug cops in her own bedroom. fucking throw the book at them, especially this cunt overton who should have been fired a long time ago!




https://lawandcrime.com/lawsuit/ari...r-own-bedroom-lawsuit/?utm_source=mostpopular

JFC

Truly sad.

 

[CornusKousa]

Don't need a warrant to force entry.

"Drop her" is also used to taser someone.

Ya'll are all about those regulations!!! Gotta have that control.....this is what the business end of all that "regulation" looks like.

 

[Cubantripod]

Unions. They pay dues and the unions protect them at all costs

 

[YDB95]

Unions. They pay dues and the unions protect them at all costs

Not true of any union I've ever been a member of. Nice try though.

 

[Cubantripod]

Not true of any union I've ever been a member of. Nice try though.

Your anecdotal evidence is not evidence to disprove how public unions like the police, government and teachers unions behave.

 

[pecksniff]

There is an awful lot of institutional inertia in law enforcement, and the unions are probably part of it, or at least they ain't helping.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Unions. They pay dues and the unions protect them at all costs

That is a big part of the problem with police reform.

 

[pecksniff]

Not true of any union I've ever been a member of. Nice try though.

Police unions are in a class by themselves -- they have to be ready to shield their members and departments from forms of political pressure that never arise with respect to auto workers or coal miners.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Your anecdotal evidence is not evidence to disprove how public unions like the police, government and teachers unions behave.

Your lack of any evidence to back your claims disqualifies you from calling someone out for anecdotal evidence.

 

[Earthlyone]

JFC

Truly sad.

It is, but keep things in perspective. The United States is a huge multiple time zoned continent with a large population; just think about all the millions of interactions between the public and the Police in which the Police handle themselves perfectly commendably. An incident like this may tell a story about the policing culture in that particular district/state and doesn't have to reflect on all the other states Police forces which are all different jurisdictions .
In a European context it would be like French Police in France taking heat because a German Police officer in Germany acted unprofessionally in some way.

 

[Biggs_Darklighter]

Cop unions suck. They absolutely protect shitty cops.

 

[Dribble]

Your lack of any evidence to back your claims disqualifies you from calling someone out for anecdotal evidence.

I actually agree with the Fascist traitor somewhat. The unions aren't the reason we have bad cops...or teachers...or workers...but they have facilitated in making it hard to remove them. Let's look at the NBA Player's Union. Why have they not required their members to get vaccinated when it is in the safety of the public? Or the NFL union making it illegal to cut a player based on his vaccination status? I want to see the unions start policing their members instead of just blindly protecting them.

The reason we have bad cops is in their training and who seeks these jobs...damaged war vets. The reason we have bad teachers is their educational training.

 

[CornusKousa]

Your lack of any evidence to back your claims disqualifies you from calling someone out for anecdotal evidence.

Says the guy who has never provided anything but name calling to support his bullshit.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Truth is usually found in the middle. Cops, like everyone else, deserve the protection of a labor union. Someone much smarter than me needs to figure out how to provide for union protection without union abuse.


I know, you're all saying, but who is smarter than you, Lincoln Duncan.

 

[pecksniff]

I want to see the unions start policing their members instead of just blindly protecting them.

An organization that does that would be not so much a union as a guild, like a state bar.

 

[Dribble]

An organization that does that would be not so much a union as a guild, like a state bar.

And if they don't....they are nothing more than a military entity. Cops are not the judge and jury...but they act is if they are doling out unequal punishment as they see fit. If they acted the same for all individuals...wouldn't be much of a problem

 

[Biggs_Darklighter]

An organization that does that would be not so much a union as a guild, like a state bar.

That's how they should be. A union shouldn't want bad members but since most only care about money and power they tend to overlook and defend them as much as possible. Make them responsible and it'll change.

 

[butters]

when a union member acts in direct conflict to their public role–such as a school bus driver driving under the influence or a cop raping someone or a steelworker deliberately ignoring substandard test results on a sample–then they should be

fired
ousted from their union
completely open to public prosecution for their crimes

it should be the union's job to protect their workers from unfair work practices, unsafe working conditions, unearned dismissals or sexual/ethnic/gender/other discrimination in order to achieve the safest working standards; the best socially accepted wage rates; most reliable & most ethically/morally productive workforce.

it is not a union's job to protect those whose actions should disbar them from membership in the first place.

 

[Biggs_Darklighter]

when a union member acts in direct conflict to their public role–such as a school bus driver driving under the influence or a cop raping someone or a steelworker deliberately ignoring substandard test results on a sample–then they should be

fired
ousted from their union
completely open to public prosecution for their crimes

They usually are. If a union is unable or unwilling to defend a person and keep their job then all that applies.
Extreme cases are rare but like plane crashes, every one makes the news so they seem more common.

 

[butters]

They usually are. If a union is unable or unwilling to defend a person and keep their job then all that applies.
Extreme cases are rare but like plane crashes, every one makes the news so they seem more common.

good

is there any kind of ombudsman or public oversight that polices that practices of unions?

 

[Biggs_Darklighter]

good

is there any kind of ombudsman or public oversight that polices that practices of unions?

Congress mostly. Back in the day it was the mob but unions are mostly just corrupt corporations these days. The mob was too tame for them.

 

[Biggs_Darklighter]

Hoffa did pretty good with the Teamsters. Wonder whatever happened to that guy. Must've retired.

 

[butters]

Congress mostly. Back in the day it was the mob but unions are mostly just corrupt corporations these days. The mob was too tame for them.

thankyou