British Emma?

[oggbashan]

Emma Raducanu's parents were Romanian and Chinese. She was born in Canada and moved to the UK when she was two.

She, and he parents, are British citizens, but she speaks Chinese and was known in China for being a great table tennis player.

It says a lot about how accepting we Brits are of immigrants that we see her as wholly British.

In my own town - my former dentist had been born Finnish, became a Swede, and I sponsored him to become a British Citizen. His wife, another dentist, who was and is Finnish but has dual nationality as she became the wife of a new British citizen.

Our local takeaway restaurants have a mixed bag. Two are run by Hong Kong Chinese who are now British and their children were born British in the UK. My local newsagent is run by a family of Ugandan Asians expelled by Idi Amin but they too are British and their children were born British.

The 'Indian' restaurants are run by British Indians, Bangladeshis and Pakistanis and yet all their children were born here as British and went to the local schools.

When we were in Gibraltar we had a Spanish maid who had been a refugee from Spain during the Spanish Civil War. She was stateless and couldn't return to Spain because she was on a death list as the wife of a former senior policeman for the original government. My father managed to get her papers as a British Gibraltarian, but changed her surname. After the death of Franco, she was able to return to Spain as a Gibraltarian and see her son whom she had left at school, aged ten when she had to flee.

My oncologist is Greek, married to another Greek consultant, both working for the NHS. But they aren't Greek anymore. they are British, as are their children.

My physiotherapist married a Mexican and has two British Children and his wife (but not mother-in-law) is British too.

Without all these new British people, our town would be a poorer place.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Isn't multiculturalism great?

I live in Houston. Until the Afghan pullout was announced, I had no idea that there was a substantial Afghan expat colony here in Houston...over 1000 refugees.

Of the first 1100 Afghan nationals airlifted out of Kabul, one hundred of them were immediately resettled here in Houston last month.

 

[oggbashan]

Isn't multiculturalism great?

I live in Houston. Until the Afghan pullout was announced, I had no idea that there was a substantial Afghan expat colony here in Houston...over 1000 refugees.

Of the first 1100 Afghan nationals airlifted out of Kabul, one hundred of them were immediately resettled here in Houston last month.

Our nearby City has just taken in 200 Afghan Refugees. Not far away is a colony of retired ex-Gurkha soldiers. Many of them work in our local supermarkets as security staff. Those supermarkets rarely have trouble with shoplifters. You just don't mess with a Gurkha!

The City Of Canterbury took in Huguenot refugees when they were persecuted in France. In the Crypt of Canterbury Cathedral, there is still, hundreds of years later, a Huguenot Chapel that holds services in French.

Edited for PS. One of the local prolific shoplifters attended court. He complained that he had been roughly handled by the store's Gurkha Security staff, causing him injury and distress. The magistrate dismissed his claims saying that he should have known that Gurkhas could be brutal and he should have tried somewhere else...

 

[bellisarius]

What's your point here Ogg?

 

[oggbashan]

Basically that immigrants are a benefit to the UK.

And without them, the NHS would collapse...

 

[bellisarius]

They are also a benefit to the US. The debate in this country is centered around legal vs. illegal. The citizens are overwhelmingly against illegal aliens. The left insists on framing the debate in such a manner so as to encompass legal immigrants as part of those the citizens oppose. It's a disingenuous tactic but one that works on those that only read the superficial news.

 

[oggbashan]

Legal immigration into the UK is difficult, and more so since Brexit.

The barriers to immigration and the fiendish paperwork are terrible.

But illegal immigration is more than the people crossing the Channel in small boats. It is easiest to arrive as a student or tourist and overstay your permission to remain. The authorities are constantly closing fake educational establishments that recruit 'students' who aren't.

Part of the attraction of the UK is that there is no national identity card and it is easy to get a National Insurance number (real or fake) to enable an illegal to work here. That is not feasible in most of Europe where refugees (and illegal immigrants) are forbidden to work.

 

[Rightguide]

What's your point here Ogg?

No shit! You took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[oggbashan]

No shit! You took the words right out of my mouth.

See post #5 above.

Unlike the row in the US about illegals, and the confusion about legal versus illegal, we Brits are more relaxed and any attempt to deport a solid citizen working in the UK, however he/she got here, is likely to attract a campaign in support.

But foreign criminals? The lawyers fight extradition for murderers, rapists, drug dealers etc, with all the legal arguments they can muster. There is anger that some of the worst criminals cannot be sent back to their own country to face more charges there 'because it will damage their family life'!

 

[bellisarius]

Legal immigration into the UK is difficult, and more so since Brexit.

The barriers to immigration and the fiendish paperwork are terrible.

But illegal immigration is more than the people crossing the Channel in small boats. It is easiest to arrive as a student or tourist and overstay your permission to remain. The authorities are constantly closing fake educational establishments that recruit 'students' who aren't.

Part of the attraction of the UK is that there is no national identity card and it is easy to get a National Insurance number (real or fake) to enable an illegal to work here. That is not feasible in most of Europe where refugees (and illegal immigrants) are forbidden to work.

We have much the same problems here.

We allow somewhere in the neighborhood of 150,000 legal, employment based, immigrants per year. However since the 1960's we've had 'chain immigration' whereby close relatives of the immigrant, once they obtain permanent status, can also be allowed in. Those numbers range in the 250,000 per year. Then there are the 'refugee's' which depending on the administration can reach into the millions per year.

 

[Taggy1]

See post #5 above.

Unlike the row in the US about illegals, and the confusion about legal versus illegal, we Brits are more relaxed and any attempt to deport a solid citizen working in the UK, however he/she got here, is likely to attract a campaign in support.

But foreign criminals? The lawyers fight extradition for murderers, rapists, drug dealers etc, with all the legal arguments they can muster. There is anger that some of the worst criminals cannot be sent back to their own country to face more charges there 'because it will damage their family life'!

Ogg is talking shit. At least 66% of the British population see immigrants as a burden on our society. At least 80% of muslims are “unemployed” and have no intentions of working. Only today a poll about immigrants wanted them to be deported. I’ve no problem with people who have legitimate reasons to come here but let’s be honest they see the U.K. as an easy target. Ogg will deny this of course

 

[oggbashan]

I won't deny it. I just ask you for proof of your unverifiable assertions.

Your statements have NO evidence at all.

You have made three specific statements. Where is your evidence? And I don't mean links to the British National party's website.

What was the question asked in the poll? Of whom? By whom and what scientific basis has it?

 

[oggbashan]

80% of Muslims unemployed? Bullshit!

Data from the National Bureau of Statistics:


4% of White people were unemployed in 2019, compared with 7% of people from all other ethnic groups combined
Black, and Bangladeshi and Pakistani people had the highest unemployment rate out of all ethnic groups (8%)
the White Other ethnic group had the lowest unemployment rate out of all ethnic groups (3%)
in every region in England and in Scotland, unemployment rates were lower for White people than for all other ethnic groups combined, with the biggest differences in West Midlands, the North East and Yorkshire and the Humber
in Wales, unemployment rates were the same for White people and people in all other ethnic groups combined (4%)

 

[Rightguide]

See post #5 above.

Unlike the row in the US about illegals, and the confusion about legal versus illegal, we Brits are more relaxed and any attempt to deport a solid citizen working in the UK, however he/she got here, is likely to attract a campaign in support.

But foreign criminals? The lawyers fight extradition for murderers, rapists, drug dealers etc, with all the legal arguments they can muster. There is anger that some of the worst criminals cannot be sent back to their own country to face more charges there 'because it will damage their family life'!

How did all of those Muslim terrorists and criminals wind up in the UK?

 

[phrodeau]

The percentage of the citizenry who are terrorists and criminals is actually higher than the percentage among immigrants.

 

[oggbashan]

How did all of those Muslim terrorists and criminals wind up in the UK?

The previous Labour government encouraged immigration. Since the Brexit vote and the Conservative governments, immigration has been more (but not enough) controlled.

We took people from Gitmo who hadn't been charged or convicted of any offence. But as RightGuide says, the non- Muslim terrorists outnumbers the Muslims - mainly Neo-Nazi or White supremacists.

 

[Taggy1]

The previous Labour government encouraged immigration. Since the Brexit vote and the Conservative governments, immigration has been more (but not enough) controlled.

We took people from Gitmo who hadn't been charged or convicted of any offence. But as RightGuide says, the non- Muslim terrorists outnumbers the Muslims - mainly Neo-Nazi or White supremacists.

Don’t spout your bullshit.

 

[oggbashan]

Don’t spout your bullshit. Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslims. Oh and you’re 1 of them

Another unjustified and unproven biased assertion. You are just an arsehole!

You have not shown any proof and I have already shown your statement that 80% of Muslims are unemployed is a gross lie.

I hope you are using a VPN and or not in the UK because you could be arrested for some of your statements.

 

[Taggy1]

Another unjustified and unproven biased assertion. You are just an arsehole!

You have not shown any proof and I have already shown your statement that 80% of Muslims are unemployed is a gross lie.

https://www.***********/s/uip2ydgknydwmd0/IMG_1592.PNG?dl=0

 

[oggbashan]

https://www.***********/s/uip2ydgknydwmd0/IMG_1592.PNG?dl=0

And what is that?


Where is the proof that it is anything but an anti-muslim assertion?

That bullshit proves NOTHING!

I quoted the Bureau of National Statistics. You respond with right-wing extremist lies?

It is NOT true.

 

[oggbashan]

This is the reality:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain


2020s

2020, 9 January: Two inmates at Whitemoor prison in Cambridgeshire wearing realistic fake suicide vests, and carrying improvised bladed weapons, stabbed one prison officer several times causing serious injuries and harmed several others.
2020, 2 February: 2020 Streatham stabbing - Sudesh Amman, wearing a fake suicide vest similar to the one used in the 2019 London Bridge stabbing, was shot dead by armed police after stabbing and injuring two people in Streatham, London Borough of Lambeth. One of the victims sustained life-threatening injuries.
2020, 20 June: 2020 Reading stabbings - On 20 June 2020, Khairi Saadallah, shouting "Allahu Akbar", attacked two groups of people socialising in Forbury Gardens, a public park in the centre of Reading, killing 3 and injuring 3 others. On 11 January 2021, he was given a whole-life jail term. The sentencing judge said that it was a terrorist attack and that the purpose was to advance an extremist Islamic cause.

THREE, not 1100.

 

[Taggy1]

Oh the truth hurts

 

[Taggy1]

And what is that?


Where is the proof that it is anything but an anti-muslim assertion?

That bullshit proves NOTHING!

I quoted the Bureau of National Statistics. You respond with right-wing extremist lies?

It is NOT true.

Oh the truth hurts. Every terrorist attack is from Islam, just accept the truth. We know your stupid book says “lie to achieve allahs goals”.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Oh the truth hurts. Every terrorist attack is from Islam, just accept the truth. We know your stupid book says “lie to achieve allahs goals”.

*chuckles*

You should immigrate to the US, I think you would find it a better fit for you socially, well in certain States anyhow.

 

[oggbashan]

Oh the truth hurts. Every terrorist attack is from Islam, just accept the truth. We know your stupid book says “lie to achieve allahs goals”.

If it were the truth. But it isn't except in your biased view. You must be a paid-up member of the British National Party. Enjoy your arrest for spreading racist propaganda.