The U.S. and admission of refugees

[pecksniff]

I think that if refugees are fleeing a dangerous political or social situation for which the U.S. bears any measure of responsibility, that should at least be a factor in considering whether to admit them.

Which would favor the admissions of Guatemalans and Haitians.

 

[YDB95]

Or really, people from MOST of the global hotspots since World War II or so. Regrettably, we wouldn't have room for them all.

Playing devil's advocate, Afghanistan was already a disaster before we attacked in 2001. As awful as the situation there is now, it's probably not really any worse than it was. (I do, though, support getting as many women and allies out of there as we can.)

 

[Champakian]

YD is the poster boi for something I just posited in another thread:

This is just so typical of the political mentality of the common Brown Shirt.
When our guy is in office, all the blame goes to the guy who was in office.
When their guy is in office, he/she is fully responsible for their watch...


It's as predictable as the phases of the moon.

 

[AlterErgo]

I dont want ANY Afghans here or any MUSLIMS for that matter

 

[Champakian]

Gonna round them up and ship them somewhere?

 

[AlterErgo]

DONT

LET

EM

IN

There are 57 MooseFuck cuntries

Send em there

 

[Champakian]

THEY'RE

Already

HERE!!!

 

[WillJ8787]

Gonna round them up and ship them somewhere?

Northern Minnesota....apple tree and clown fish grower jobs for them.

 

[Dribble]

From an economic perspective...any refugee is a better worker than the white trash Trump supporters. Get rid of one group and replace them with a new group. Win-win

 

[CornusKousa]

From an economic perspective...any refugee is a better worker than the white trash Trump supporters. Get rid of one group and replace them with a new group. Win-win

^^ Openly racist and genocidal against white people.

Calls others a fascist.

 

[Champakian]

From an economic perspective...any refugee is a better worker than the white trash Trump supporters. Get rid of one group and replace them with a new group. Win-win

This is just so typical of the political mentality of the common Brown Shirt.
When our guy is in office, all the blame goes to the guy who was in office.
When their guy is in office, he/she is fully responsible for their watch...


It's as predictable as the phases of the moon.

 

[CornusKousa]

Northern Minnesota....apple tree and clown fish grower jobs for them.

Not a job that exist.

They can come pack packages for me though, I pay 10/hr, seasonal only.

 

[pecksniff]

Gonna round them up and ship them somewhere?

Let them round themselves up and ship themselves here.

 

[pecksniff]

Not a job that exist.

They can come pack packages for me though, I pay 10/hr, seasonal only.

Well, we could have a new Homestead Act . . . many of them were farmers in the old country, so let them farm here.

Of course, that means rural American counties will be full of Catholic churches and mosques and Buddhist temples. Can Red America live with that?

 

[KeithD]

The first arrivals of Afghan families have occurred in my town (which is 85 miles from the first U.S.-soil reception point for these refugees at Fort Lee, Virginia). The town was prepared for them and are helping them set up. We were the main resettlement point for the Tibetans fleeing Chinese suppression as well. The Tibetan national library was rehomed here. Those people have settled in without many problems. I suspect the Afghan refugees will, as well.

 

[butters]

I think that if refugees are fleeing a dangerous political or social situation for which the U.S. bears any measure of responsibility, that should at least be a factor in considering whether to admit them.

Which would favor the admissions of Guatemalans and Haitians.

how the trump admin deliberately scuppered refugee chances:
https://www.rawstory.com/ex-pence-a...Id=6&cx_testVariant=cx_1&cx_artPos=2#cxrecs_s

As thousands of people in Afghanistan attempt to flee the country before the United States' withdrawal on August 31, we look at how the Trump administration made it much harder for Afghans who worked with the U.S. to apply and receive what is known as a special immigrant visa, or SIV. Oliva Troye, a former top aide to Mike Pence who resigned in protest, has placed the blame on Trump's xenophobic adviser Stephen Miller, saying he peddled "racist hysteria" in White House meetings about bringing Afghan allies to the U.S. "Stephen Miller would say, 'Well, these are terrorist cells in the making if you bring them here,'" says Troye, director of the Republican Accountability Project and former homeland security adviser to Pence. "I know for a fact that the Trump administration was planning this withdrawal for several years," says Troye. "Why were they not actively prioritizing this population so that we wouldn't be in the situation we're in today?"

 

[pecksniff]

The first arrivals of Afghan families have occurred in my town (which is 85 miles from the first U.S.-soil reception point for these refugees at Fort Lee, Virginia). The town was prepared for them and are helping them set up. We were the main resettlement point for the Tibetans fleeing Chinese suppression as well. The Tibetan national library was rehomed here. Those people have settled in without many problems. I suspect the Afghan refugees will, as well.

If the Tibetans have come, the Uighurs will be next. Shouldn't be a problem. (Not that the Uighurs', or the Tibetans', troubles are America's fault in any way -- that's all on the PRC.)

 

[KeithD]

If the Tibetans have come, the Uighurs will be next. Shouldn't be a problem. (Not that the Uighurs', or the Tibetans', troubles are America's fault in any way -- that's all on the PRC.)

Too bad the Kurds who served us in Syria can't be saved. When Trump had us withdraw from Syria, he just abandoned our Kurdish allies there.

Those criticizing what the Biden administration (admittedly belatedly) is doing to try to extricate our Afghan allies could jolly well read up on what Trump did with our Kurdish assets in Syria.

 

[butters]

Too bad the Kurds who served us in Syria can't be saved. When Trump had us withdraw from Syria, he just abandoned our Kurdish allies there.

Those criticizing what the Biden administration (admittedly belatedly) is doing to try to extricate our Afghan allies could jolly well read up on what Trump did with our Kurdish assets in Syria.

^^ this

 

[pecksniff]

Too bad the Kurds who served us in Syria can't be saved. When Trump had us withdraw from Syria, he just abandoned our Kurdish allies there.

Those criticizing what the Biden administration (admittedly belatedly) is doing to try to extricate our Afghan allies could jolly well read up on what Trump did with our Kurdish assets in Syria.

Well, defending the Kurds in Syria would require military action, which is a different thing entirely from admitting Kurdish refugees to the U.S.