The misuse of the term Milf

[LAHomedog]

Ahhh! The trashy queen: Debbie Harry of Blondie.

 

[Payne_Hall]

If you are making that list don't forget Jennifer Connelly.

Also, Elisabeth Shue. Especially after Amazon’s The Boys.

 

[jaF0]

I have decided that for my purposes of Lit, the number should be 36. That makes her being 18 at the time she became a Mom and her suitors being 18 at the moment of their pursuit, which makes it possible for her to be the friend or school mate's Mom.

 

[Rustyoznail]

So, sort of getting back on topic - Is there a male equivalent.

"FILF"

Not exactly the term I'd use though...

 

[Bramblethorn]

So, sort of getting back on topic - Is there a male equivalent.

"FILF"

Not exactly the term I'd use though...

And you call yourself Australian! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNTjl4Ss85M

 

[Lady2020]

Its been discussed often here how the word-and category-Taboo has changed over the years, at least in terms of porn and erotica. Taboo's basic meaning is something society would normally frown upon, but now all but exclusively is associated with incest or step incest.

Last night I was discussing my new WIP-a milf anthology-with a friend, and he brought up a good point, why are Milfs in erotica and porn always older women? The term stands for mother I'd like to fuck, there are a lot of young moms out there.

His point made me think of the couple that recently bought the house across the street from us. The wife is a flat out stunning redhead who is 26(I know this because my chatty wife went over there to bring them food the day they moved in and she somehow always ends up with everyone's life story) and a mother of 3 year old twins.

But if I were to post a picture of her somewhere and say look at this hot Milf I would get comments that she's too young.

The correct term for a very attractive and sexually aggressive woman-especially one that likes younger men is cougar. A cougar is always an older woman in at least her upper thirties and upwards.

But yet look up Milf in erotic stories and porn searches and they are always in that late 30's and up range...porn stars like India Summers, Jodie West, Zoe Holloway Kendra Lust etc, they're not younger women.

In another thread discussing the popularity of the mature category it was mentioned that the category itself has become a bit of a misnomer, its not about older mature pairings, but age gap stories and the word milf is in constant referral to 40ish women.

If you want to get eyes on your story here, or get the right target audience for sale, your Milfs have to be older or it does not go over as well so authors perpetuate the misuse because you either keep going with it or the story won't be as successful.

One last point is I have read-and written-stories where the "milf" does not even have kids, but the term is used as a synonym for cougar, and no one calls that out because...back to my point about Taboo, the word's meaning has totally shifted, and even though mom is in the acronym its no longer the focal point, the age is.

Additionally, here's a quick hit on the selling market. Milf is the better term in a title because if you use cougar(even more so if Cougar cub is in title or description) on amazon,...well, some young boy or girl searches cougar expecting animals and gets cougar cub erotica because amazon refuses to have a separate adult section, but when mom or dad get pissed and report the book, its always the authors fault...so selling advice, always use Milf, at least on amazon with its heavy Karen population.

And...this is what I think to talk about at 6:30 in the morning

Hello, LC. Good points. Hope you and fam are doing well.

 

[SimonDoom]

So, sort of getting back on topic - Is there a male equivalent.

"FILF"

Not exactly the term I'd use though...

That's deserving of its own thread. An interesting question.

Young women fall for older Dads all the time, so yes, this is a thing. It doesn't seem to have the same cultural resonance, but it definitely happens.

Think about the nubile young babysitter with a big imagination and who writes in her diary all the time and who develops a crush on the Dad of the kid she babysits. There are some movies that play on this theme.

I think women would have to weigh in on this to give an expert opinion, but my sense is that there's a difference. A "DILF" (that's the acronym I'd use -- Dad rather than Father) is often a safe, nice older man (like the Steve Carrell character in Crazy, Stupid Love, who becomes the object of the babysitter's crush), while a MILF is an older woman who's unusually hot and sexy for someone her age.

Part of this is ageism/sexism. Our culture has no problem seeing men and male celebrities as sex symbols well into their fifties, but women over 40 who are sex symbols are seen as exceptions (although I think this is much less true than before).

I have no idea what celebrities women think of as DILFs.

 

[Acktion]

Reminds me...

Over a decade ago, when I was teaching at a local college, I overheard a couple of the students talking just before class was due to start. And Ashley was saying something about "my friend and I went to the gym, because we're going to be MILFs!"

And I said, "But, wait. Don't you have two kids?"

"Yes."

"Then, aren't you one already?"


It took me a few seconds to realize why the entire class cracked up, just howling with laughter.

 

[Rustyoznail]

And you call yourself Australian! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNTjl4Ss85M

Hangs head in shame...

 

[lovecraft68]

Also, Elisabeth Shue. Especially after Amazon’s The Boys.

Whenever I think of her I think of Leaving Las Vegas which has to be the most depressing movie I've ever seen bar none. What a sad broken pair of people.

 

[lovecraft68]

Susannah Hoffs from The Bangles still looks amazing. She'd be my mind's eye image of the ultimate MILF.

I endured that awful movie the All Nighter for her....and it was awful.

Similar vein, have you seen the playboy shoot with Tiffany and Debbie Gibson? They both have aged well, but Tiffany...holy shit, and she seemed a lot more into and willing for the shoot.

You cannot, in my opinion top a natural redhead Milf

 

[jaF0]

Leaving Las Vegas which has to be the most depressing movie I've ever seen bar none.

Never saw it, but Moulin Rouge! and The Virgin Suicides ....

 

[SimonDoom]

I endured that awful movie the All Nighter for her....and it was awful.

Similar vein, have you seen the playboy shoot with Tiffany and Debbie Gibbons? They both have aged well, but Tiffany...holy shit, and she seemed a lot more into and willing for the shoot.

You cannot, in my opinion top a natural redhead Milf

I recall that shoot and agree.

One of the MILFier redheads these days is Maitland Ward, former sitcom actress turned porn star. She's 43 and has aged well.

 

[lovecraft68]

I recall that shoot and agree.

One of the MILFier redheads these days is Maitland Ward, former sitcom actress turned porn star. She's 43 and has aged well.

Maitland Ward is interesting, usually the case is a struggling actress starts out in sleazy or full porn movies then gets into mainstream, she's gone in reverse, and I thank her for it.

 

[lovecraft68]

And you call yourself Australian! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNTjl4Ss85M

They remind me of New Zealand's Flight of the Conchords

 

[lovecraft68]

Ahhh! The trashy queen: Debbie Harry of Blondie.

Damn straight, especially because she always looked stoned or wasted.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I complained about that on a earlier milf thread, and someone pointed out that Freud's "Mother" was nothing but a pair of tits. Tits are important.

Not so important that you can get knocked out as they flop around on her chest as you fuck her. And store bought ones are even worse.

 

[jaF0]

One of the MILFier redheads these days is Maitland Ward, former sitcom actress turned porn star. She's 43 and has aged well.

Maitland Ward is interesting, usually the case is a struggling actress starts out in sleazy or full porn movies then gets into mainstream, she's gone in reverse, and I thank her for it.

Teri Weigel.

http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/59/C4/e3f100105f4659c4.jpg


Not only went into film, but worked at one of the Nevada ranches for a while, then as a hostess (with benefits) on charter boats.

Unfortunately she has NOT aged well.

 

[lovecraft68]

Boy meets real world...

 

[lovecraft68]

Not so important that you can get knocked out as they flop around on her chest as you fuck her. And store bought ones are even worse.

There's a woman who jogs at the same track I do, and its obvious she has these things strapped down, but I swear she's one bump from knocking herself out.

When my sister in law (RIP 2007) was in her late teens she was so big on top she already had serious back pain and had two reductions and was still a DD after those.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

There's a woman who jogs at the same track I do, and its obvious she has these things strapped down, but I swear she's one bump from knocking herself out.

When my sister in law (RIP 2007) was in her late teens she was so big on top she already had serious back pain and had two reductions and was still a DD after those.

And of course there is the old saying, "Any more than a hand/mouth full is a wasted."

My wife was a 36C in high school. After her second child they gave her these pills to stop milk from being produced as she was bottle feeding the kid. She went down to a 32A. That's when I met her and fell in love with small breast.

30 years later, she finds out she had Hep C and they start her on the only antivirals available. They told her she would lose weight. Well, being an obstinate woman, she gained weight and her tits ballooned up to 38Ds. I was heart broken.

Once she was off the antivirals, they did reduce in size and she lost the weight she gained and was now a 34B.

I missed her small tits, so nice to suck and squeeze. Oh hum. The 34's aren't all that bad and she does like me to suck on her nipples a lot now. And they are still firm and don't flop around on her.

 

[lovecraft68]

Hello, LC. Good points. Hope you and fam are doing well.

All is well, wife, daughters grandkids all happy and healthy, good to see you popping by.

 

[lovecraft68]

And of course there is the old saying, "Any more than a hand/mouth full is a wasted."

My wife was a 36C in high school. After her second child they gave her these pills to stop milk from being produced as she was bottle feeding the kid. She went down to a 32A. That's when I met her and fell in love with small breast.

30 years later, she finds out she had Hep C and they start her on the only antivirals available. They told her she would lose weight. Well, being an obstinate woman, she gained weight and her tits ballooned up to 38Ds. I was heart broken.

Once she was off the antivirals, they did reduce in size and she lost the weight she gained and was now a 34B.

I missed her small tits, so nice to suck and squeeze. Oh hum. The 34's aren't all that bad and she does like me to suck on her nipples a lot now. And they are still firm and don't flop around on her.

I'm more of a leg ass (and feet) guy than breasts. I think small breasts look great on a slender or athletically built woman, big boobs on a skinny girl does nothing for me, conversely larger breasts on a curvy woman works....guess I go for proportion.

 

[LAHomedog]

Similar vein, have you seen the playboy shoot with Tiffany and Debbie Gibson? They both have aged well, but Tiffany...holy shit, and she seemed a lot more into and willing for the shoot.

Well, Tiffany was always a whore for fame and publicity and Debbie was much more of a serious musician. Tiffany being more into the shoot would make sense considering...

 

[LAHomedog]

Damn straight, especially because she always looked stoned or wasted.

That's because she was stoned and wasted. Shooting smack the whole time. Happy that she got clean before it took her out.