Big Int'l Sports Brands Boycotted in China Over Xinjiang Cotton

[gxnn]

Yesterday when checking the social media Weibo (microblog) of China, I noticed the news that H&M, the Swedish brand of fast fashion, issued an statement to the effect that it won't source any cotton material from Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region of China, and the furious reaction of Chinese netizens to that news. Later it was reported a number of famous international brands of sportswear like Nike, Adidas, Puma had issued the similar statements earlier, then from today on, an extensive boycott was begun by Chinese consumers, even the online influencers of e-commerce were affected. Some Chinese movie and song stars also announced to terminate their respective contracts with the brands.

I don't really know what happened, there seems to be some misunderstanding. Cotton grown in Xinjiang is not produced by forced labor, as far as I know. Many migrant workers go there from neighboring regions to help the local Uygur people get in the cotton in harvest and get good pay for their work accordingly.

There cannot be any discrimination against Uygur people in Xinjiang, because they get better treatment than Han people, the majority of the population in China. When Han can only have one child for each family by law, Uygur can have three or more. In the nationwide entrance exam for colleges, Uygur students are often given favorable treatment with much lower admission requirements than the Han students.

 

[oggbashan]

^^^^

Chinese government-approved spokesperson.

"It's all lies by the WEST!"

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Fuck china. All western countries should cut off all trade.
Canada has put forward a motion to move the 2022 winter Olympics out of china.

 

[gxnn]

What good can be earned

There are many Chinese people staying outside China and even living in China many people can in various forms get access to outside information, so there might be some lies, but it is not possible to tell lies all the time.
Competition of different countries is justifiable. But to make trouble with China will not get a western country any benefits because it will be very inconvinient for their work and life without the Chinese products and labors.
Has Canada gained any good after detaining Huawei's eldest princess on behalf of Donald Trump? Australia also meets with big problems in its mineral resources after conflicting with China.
I may be very ignorant, so you can forget about my words.

 

[oggbashan]

China lies about the Uighars.

 

[sighLent]

why should we care what happens in another country that means nothing to us?

 

[phrodeau]

So this disruption of commerce is all the fault of fake news. Hmm, I wonder where that came from.

 

[gxnn]

I am here to learn things that cannot be learnt elsewhere

China lies about the Uighars.

Perhaps you are reasonable, but nowadays even in the US there are so many "fake news" according to Donald Trump, nobody can physically confirm the news report of Uygurs or whoever by being there on site every day. In an affair, it is beyond your knowledge if a man or a woman hiding in the wardrobe in your bedroom.

why should we care what happens in another country that means nothing to us?

Because we still live in the same village that is known as the earth and have been financially and physically able to live in the moon or in the Mars. For example, you can blame China or all those that you don't like for producing or spreading the virus, but after that you have to wear masks and keep social distance in your daily life as a little boy as told by the kindergarten teacher to learn how to behave properly when faced with health problems.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

^^^^

Chinese government-approved spokesperson.

"It's all lies by the WEST!"

You and I have crossed swords many times, but I'll lock arms with you here.

 

[oggbashan]

You and I have crossed swords many times, but I'll lock arms with you here.

Thanks. They can really be assholes. China is bribing Pakistan and now Turkey to keep quiet about Uighurs.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Thanks. They can really be assholes. China is bribing Pakistan and now Turkey to keep quiet about Uighurs.

The world was fortunate to have the US step in when Britain faltered as global keeper of the peace. It will be a very different world if the US falters and the Chinese spread their poisonous rule.

 

[oggbashan]

The world was fortunate to have the US step in when Britain faltered as global keeper of the peace. It will be a very different world if the US falters and the Chinese spread their poisonous rule.

Throughout the 20th century, it was a US diplomatic aim to break up the British Empire. It succeeded because the UK was financially broke after WW1 (and WW2). But it was reluctant to take over the peace-keeping role and remained isolationist. As usual, hindsight is wonderful, but if the US had been prepared to back the League of Nations with force when Italy invaded Abyssinia?

The British Empire could not have survived anyway, but the Commonwealth is still a force for good, flawed though it may be.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Throughout the 20th century, it was a US diplomatic aim to break up the British Empire. It succeeded because the UK was financially broke after WW1 (and WW2). But it was reluctant to take over the peace-keeping role and remained isolationist. As usual, hindsight is wonderful, but if the US had been prepared to back the League of Nations with force when Italy invaded Abyssinia?

The British Empire could not have survived anyway, but the Commonwealth is still a force for good, flawed though it may be.

There were a lot of points at which the cataclysm of 1939-1945 could have been avoided, but the world punted.

While we're having this love-fest, let me offer my thanks to Britain and its Empire for standing in the breach for two years, alone defending civilization in the face of almost certain destruction. It takes a valiant people to do that.

 

[oggbashan]

What worries me, is that China is trying (and succeeding) In reducing the US's influence for good throughout the world.

The UK, as a NATO ally, will stand by the US, but has little economic clout and China has masses.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

What worries me, is that China is trying (and succeeding) In reducing the US's influence for good throughout the world.

The UK, as a NATO ally, will stand by the US, but has little economic clout and China has masses.

What's worse is that our corporate leadership class - not to mention political - is toeing the CCP line for CCP cash. I'm sure it hasn't escaped your notice that outfits like Google, Facebook, the NBA, etc. aren't exporting liberal values into China, but are importing the CCP's authoritarian ones into the West.

 

[Dribble]

Yesterday when checking the social media Weibo (microblog) of China, I noticed the news that H&M, the Swedish brand of fast fashion, issued an statement to the effect that it won't source any cotton material from Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region of China, and the furious reaction of Chinese netizens to that news. Later it was reported a number of famous international brands of sportswear like Nike, Adidas, Puma had issued the similar statements earlier, then from today on, an extensive boycott was begun by Chinese consumers, even the online influencers of e-commerce were affected. Some Chinese movie and song stars also announced to terminate their respective contracts with the brands.

I don't really know what happened, there seems to be some misunderstanding. Cotton grown in Xinjiang is not produced by forced labor, as far as I know. Many migrant workers go there from neighboring regions to help the local Uygur people get in the cotton in harvest and get good pay for their work accordingly.

There cannot be any discrimination against Uygur people in Xinjiang, because they get better treatment than Han people, the majority of the population in China. When Han can only have one child for each family by law, Uygur can have three or more. In the nationwide entrance exam for colleges, Uygur students are often given favorable treatment with much lower admission requirements than the Han students.

You claim to not know why...but yet...you create a thread and make statements about how certain groups are treated? NPR had a 10 minute segment on this this last week. I suggest you find out why. Or keep believing the news sources you are getting your information from. Choice is yours.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

There are many Chinese people staying outside China and even living in China many people can in various forms get access to outside information, so there might be some lies, but it is not possible to tell lies all the time.
Competition of different countries is justifiable. But to make trouble with China will not get a western country any benefits because it will be very inconvinient for their work and life without the Chinese products and labors.
Has Canada gained any good after detaining Huawei's eldest princess on behalf of Donald Trump? Australia also meets with big problems in its mineral resources after conflicting with China.
I may be very ignorant, so you can forget about my words.

The bitch had a warrant for her arrest, is Canada supposed to ignore the law? We aren't China. Most Canadians dont like china, they illegaly detain our citizens, not to mention how you treat muslims and
Uighars, Honk Kong. China is an evil empire.

 

[gxnn]

The bitch had a warrant for her arrest, is Canada supposed to ignore the law? We aren't China. Most Canadians dont like china, they illegaly detain our citizens, not to mention how you treat muslims and
Uighars, Honk Kong. China is an evil empire.

Calm down, dear friend of Canada. We are not officials of the governments, so we do not have to lose our tempers to each other. We are here to kill time by talking about whatever we like.
The law in Canada is law, then the law in China is law too.
When you detain that woman in Canada, you should know what will happen, because it is very natural for the rival to retaliate.

 

[Lazaran]

Calm down, dear friend of Canada. We are not officials of the governments, so we do not have to lose our tempers to each other. We are here to kill time by talking about whatever we like.
The law in Canada is law, then the law in China is law too.
When you detain that woman in Canada, you should know what will happen, because it is very natural for the rival to retaliate.

Except you are very likely a Chinese government propagandist.

You're trying waaaay too hard to be "neutral"

GTFO

 

[gxnn]

Except you are very likely a Chinese government propagandist.

You're trying waaaay too hard to be "neutral"

GTFO

You are overreacted and you are too sensitive.
I tell my feeling based on what I know about. I agree with some of you that I may not have known everything for many reasons. Some people suggested me to learn something from NPR or CNN or BBC, but if you have been to China, you know it is impossible to get access to them without resorting to illegal means, haha, so it is very contradictory that you want to teach me a lesson but you do not tell me what really happen. Haha, very embarrassing.
By the way, in China government jobs are very hard to come by, people like me knowing no powerful men or offering them no benefit do not have any hope to be employed. If you believe you can get the job by passing the official test or exam they set with high score or good performance, you are very naive and that means you never really know what China is. So I sometimes doubt some western scholars might have done their academic papers based on the data in a library or by reading what they find in google search.

 

[oggbashan]

You admit you can't see the free press that has comprehensively shown that Uighurs are oppressed? How then can you claim they aren't?

We can see pictures inside and outside the camps and have many personal testimonies from Uighurs who have fled China.

Your government lies, to its people and to the world.

 

[phrodeau]

Major media companies are blocked, but Literotica isn’t?

 

[gxnn]

I am very sincere

You admit you can't see the free press that has comprehensively shown that Uighurs are oppressed? How then can you claim they aren't?

We can see pictures inside and outside the camps and have many personal testimonies from Uighurs who have fled China.

Your government lies, to its people and to the world.

I know there are many Uygurs football players active in the China Super League, the top tier of football competition in China where players can earn millions of yuan, much easier than ordinary people and a number of hot and popular movie stars in China are Uygurs. Even the female face of Adidas for China is a famous Uygur lady, Dilireba迪力热巴.

Whether the government lies or not, I am not sure, but life experiences tell me that wherever you are, there are good people and bad people there. If one has succeeded in cheating you, how can you know he is a cheater?

As far as I know, Donald Trump often shouts at the journalists in front of him "Fake news", who do you think I should believe? The top official of the country elected by the whole people or the respected press professionals?

Major media companies are blocked, but Literotica isn’t?

Maybe Literotica is not up to that level of fame or influence, or they do not think there are serious discussions about politics at such an erotic site.

I don't have to prove anything to you, and whether you believe it or not, it is up to you.

 

[oggbashan]

Believe it? Anything allowed to be said outside China is suspect.

We in the free world have masses of verified information about the mistreatment of the Uighurs. You don't because your government won't let you see it and denies that it exists.

I won't send you pictures or links because they could get you into serious trouble, and you don't deserve that.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

One thing you have to admit is that the CCP is quite ecumenical in their brutality. Sure, the Uygurs are brutalized for their ethnicity and/or religion, but so are Christians in China. And the thugs who run the government there have never ben shy about slaughtering millions wholesale in pursuit of power and control. It's just the Uygurs' turn.