Serious questions about the LBGT+ community

Tryharder62

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I am not fooling. I am a little unschooled in all this but wondered if people might answer.

1. If two women are married are they both wives? If two men marry are they both husbands or can that change depending on what the couple wants? Is partner then used if they are unmarried?

2. Pronouns: I assume if someone was male and now identifies as female you would say she and visa versa. How do you use they when you are talking about one person. For example, my son was telling me a fellow classmate on his campus was not a he but a they. I can't understand how you would do that in conversation if you said they but you meant one person.

3. If someone told you their pronoun, how upset would they be if you honestly forgot?

I have 2 great friends from high school that I lost touch with that are both females married to females. Sadly, one of them is loosing her battle with cancer. I was so grateful to reconnect with them on facebook. We also have a man that we are so close to and watched growing up that moved away and is married to a man. He has a serious illness and is asking for our prayers. I want to respect them. Thanks.:rose:
 
I am not fooling. I am a little unschooled in all this but wondered if people might answer.

1. If two women are married are they both wives? If two men marry are they both husbands or can that change depending on what the couple wants? Is partner then used if they are unmarried?

2. Pronouns: I assume if someone was male and now identifies as female you would say she and visa versa. How do you use they when you are talking about one person. For example, my son was telling me a fellow classmate on his campus was not a he but a they. I can't understand how you would do that in conversation if you said they but you meant one person.

3. If someone told you their pronoun, how upset would they be if you honestly forgot?

I have 2 great friends from high school that I lost touch with that are both females married to females. Sadly, one of them is loosing her battle with cancer. I was so grateful to reconnect with them on facebook. We also have a man that we are so close to and watched growing up that moved away and is married to a man. He has a serious illness and is asking for our prayers. I want to respect them. Thanks.:rose:

1. The same-sex couples I know use "husband" or "wife" for both. However, the best thing to do is follow their cue, since individual couples may prefer something like "partner".

2. "They", "them, and "their" have a long history of being used as singular pronouns in situations where the gender of an individual is undetermined. For, example, people frequently say things like "Someone left their car keys here! I hope they remember to come back and get them!"

3. Again, it's been my experience that most people will cut you some slack if you've just met and it's clear you're making an effort. But if you keep misgendering them over and over, they'll rightly get pissed. Just like if you keep calling someone by the wrong name.

When you're talking to someone, you don't tend to use their pronouns anyway. It's only when you're talking about them to someone else that you need to worry about getting it right. (Note the singular "their" and "them" I used in the previous two sentences.)
 
What about men with, say... seven wives? Are the wives sisters to each other or does each wife have six wives plus a husband? Or are they partners?
 
It's a free for all here.

I know that. I didn't say this was the wrong place to ask, I just stated that he'd probably get better answers if he asked it in the appropriate forum.
 
this is the kind of thread that makes me glad i'm a fag. only because i don't have to overthink it. who fucking cares, deal with it.
 
2. Pronouns: I assume if someone was male and now identifies as female you would say she and visa versa. How do you use they when you are talking about one person. For example, my son was telling me a fellow classmate on his campus was not a he but a they. I can't understand how you would do that in conversation if you said they but you meant one person.

3. If someone told you their pronoun, how upset would they be if you honestly forgot?

In my experience, people are forgiving as long as you're not being a cunt. You're probably safe using the pronouns they present as, but if in doubt they/them can be said with a questioning intonation, allowing the person to nod agreement or correct you without it being a big deal.

It's less complicated than old fashioned etiquette. People refuse to try, because it sounds too complicated, my immediate thought is that i never want to witness then eating, for fear of food spray and splatter.
 
this is the kind of thread that makes me glad i'm a fag. only because i don't have to overthink it. who fucking cares, deal with it.

I'm glad that your glad!

In my experience, people are forgiving as long as you're not being a cunt. You're probably safe using the pronouns they present as, but if in doubt they/them can be said with a questioning intonation, allowing the person to nod agreement or correct you without it being a big deal.

It's less complicated than old fashioned etiquette. People refuse to try, because it sounds too complicated, my immediate thought is that i never want to witness then eating, for fear of food spray and splatter.

Thank you:rose: I'll tryharder.;)
 
You have a dick, you're a man. If you have a vagina you're a woman. If you have both you're a herm.

Whatever you want to marry into, choose your own labels but don't expect us to remember or walk upon rice paper trying to remember. Grasshopper.

No disrespect but it wasn't my choice, it's yours.

Yeah yeah yeah... born this way. Choose your own labels and let those around you know, don't make it a guessing game.
 
Sure, on this plane of reality, but...there is the multiverse to consider...:D

Oh no!! I can't even handle this "verse." Seriously this story is embarrassing but true. I have my son's college on like in facebook. They had a big picture that was colorful and said "Happy Pronoun Day." My first thought was that my son is an English major and they were being celabrated. I was looking for cute things to send him when it finally dawned on me. I told my son on the phone and I could feel those eyes roll and that thought that my mother is a dweeb! I have to get in gear. I don't want to start spitting food and have dolf see it.
 
Life partner.

If anyone gets upset that you use that term, then they can tell you which they prefer. Which, in my case, I promptly ignore in favor of logic and tradition. Which I can explain should anyone request me to do so.

Those who cannot accept my choice, my reasoning, or my preferences, are free to tell me not to visit them or stop visiting me. Just as I am free to not accept their stupidity, ignorance, and lack of intelligence when they insist on my using a term which has zero meaning.
 
the easiest way to deal with all of your dilemmas is just to address everyone as 'darling'. you'll gain a reputation as a madcap auntie mame type in the bargain. if you want to be a little more edgy, just address everyone, male or female, as 'girlfriend'. people will think you're a big ole faghag instead of just confused.
 
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