the american postal system is INSANE!

[butters]

using the USPS:

so, if we want to post a letter from here to a place about 8 miles away, it has to first travel almost 100 miles away before coming back. okay, that's not the entirely crazy part...

his ma'am ordered a set of 6 books from a place in Texas; they travelled from Texas to Atlanta GA, from there to Austell GA, from there to Glendale IL, then on to Cincinatti OH, THEN onto Indianapolis in Indiana before returning back down to us here in TN


so how much extra fuel for planes, lorries/delivery units just for that? and then times it by all the billions of pieces of mail travelling through the air and on roads, man-hours, electricity, vehicle wear and tear....

it's absolutely nutty!

 

[HisArpy]

Unions and union workers. Gotta keep 'em happy or they don't vote for you.

 

[oggbashan]

I ordered two postcards from US suppliers. They were rare and had a family history interest. But the postage for each card was £13.87!

If I order items from China the postage can be less than $1 for even largish items. That is the nonsense of the Universal Postel Union. China deliberately undercharges to make sure they are competitive, and the receiving postal administration makes a loss on everything sent from China.

 

[hobbit.]

using the USPS:

his ma'am ordered a set of 6 books from a place in Texas;

it's absolutely nutty!

its american so by definition its insane.

so 'his' Ma'am is the queen?

Is that the same Texas book repository adjacent to the grassy knoll?

I ordered two postcards from US suppliers. They were rare and had a family history interest. But the postage for each card was £13.87!

If I order items from China the postage can be less than $1 for even largish items. That is the nonsense of the Universal Postel Union. China deliberately undercharges to make sure they are competitive, and the receiving postal administration makes a loss on everything sent from China.

Ah Ogg, dear old Oggy Ogg.

of course since they relate to you and your family... they must old, they must be historical documents and they must be expensive. Its a given.

cant be that bloody historical if you moan about such meagre postage costs, especially since you own most of Kent, just simply tax more foreigners, or invade France...

Now the Chinese will produce you (or even mere mortals) any document and send it anywhere in the world for very reasonable postage rates. You want CE certification, no problem, what you want CE cert to read? you want talking keyring with LED clasp?

 

[oggbashan]

Wrong, Hobbit. I'm paying increased local taxes to look after bloody illegal foreigners who cross the Channel in small boats and then claim to be under 18...

Then they have the temerity to complain when they are put in army barracks that were good enough for our troops for 100 years, then don't practise social distancing and moan when they all get Covid, most of which they brought with them.

 

[hobbit.]

Then they have the temerity to complain when they are put in army barracks that were good enough for our troops for 100 years, then don't practise social distancing and moan when they all get Covid, most of which they brought with them.

They could be encouraged to live in trenches in muddy fields with rats and trench foot. It was good enough for our lads back in '14 - '18.

 

[SissySalina]

Just remember that the USPS is and is not part of the US Government. All US Government is ruled by Congress so next time you have a problem just ask a politician.

 

[oggbashan]

They could be encouraged to live in trenches in muddy fields with rats and trench foot. It was good enough for our lads back in '14 - '18.

Or just be sent straight back to France to their squalid camps where they caught Covid.

 

[Saint Peter]

we can have amazon deliver the mail in ballots.

*picture of Pete's porch*

 

[hobbit.]

Or just be sent straight back to France to their squalid camps where they caught Covid.

You're warming to this trench foot concept....

 

[oggbashan]

You're warming to this trench foot concept....

I think, as a humanitarian gesture, the UK should ensure that all illegal immigrants are returned to France when they have been thoroughly vaccinated:

All the approved Covid vaccines (two if necessary); all the ones not yet approved and wanting testing; measles, mumps, and rubella; influenza; pneumonia; shingles; TB; polio; yellow fever; Ebola; and anything else, no matter how obscure, so that their arms, legs, and buttocks are like pin cushions and tell them if they return, we will assume they haven't been vaccinated and start all over again.

 

[hobbit.]

I think, as a humanitarian gesture, the UK should ensure that all illegal immigrants are returned to France when they have been thoroughly vaccinated:

All the approved Covid vaccines (two if necessary); all the ones not yet approved and wanting testing; measles, mumps, and rubella; influenza; pneumonia; shingles; TB; polio; yellow fever; Ebola; and anything else, no matter how obscure, so that their arms, legs, and buttocks are like pin cushions and tell them if they return, we will assume they haven't been vaccinated and start all over again.

The typical right wing xenophobic response to be expected! you failed to offer Lassa fever protection. Why use valuable resources in needles? why not give the polio on a sugar lump?

 

[oggbashan]

The typical right wing xenophobic response to be expected! you failed to offer Lassa fever protection. Why use valuable resources in needles? why not give the polio on a sugar lump?

Because that would not be a deterrent?


And for illegals. One needle is enough for everything and everyone...

A nice big one as used on horses.

 

[hobbit.]

Because that would not be a deterrent?


And for illegals. One needle is enough for everything and everyone...

A nice big one as used on horses.

Typical MoD attitude - foreigners (including anyone not oxbridge educated) are illegal, have you got any idea how long your project would take if only one needle was used? As final solutions go its going to be very time consuming.

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

The USPS has been running at a multi-billion dollar deficit for years. It should have been privatized a decade ago.

 

[Dribble]

What do you expect? Republicans wanted to fix the vote and they effectively destroyed what needed revamped to slow down collecting ballots. Look at those saying "privatize". Same people that support Texas Electrical companies. Wonder why?

 

[oggbashan]

Typical MoD attitude - foreigners (including anyone not oxbridge educated) are illegal, have you got any idea how long your project would take if only one needle was used? As final solutions go its going to be very time consuming.

The boat people are a tiny minority of illegals entering the UK. Most come legally on tourist and student visas and then overstay. All of the boat people could have the right to asylum in France or the first EU country they enter but they don't want that. They want to exploit the UK's laxer identity laws.

 

[lovetoread]

this thread reeks of racism

 

[oggbashan]

No. I do not care where they are from or who the boat people are. They just should not exploit the UK. There are other safer ways to enter the UK illegally which do not rely on exploitive criminals who do not care how many people die as long as they are paid.

 

[Dribble]

I was wrong about Ogg. He is no better than BusyBody. I shouldn't be surprised...a staunch supporter of Brexit. Pieces of shit always float to the top.

 

[SalviaDivinorum]

Wrong, Hobbit. I'm paying increased local taxes to look after bloody illegal foreigners who cross the Channel in small boats and then claim to be under 18...

Then they have the temerity to complain when they are put in army barracks that were good enough for our troops for 100 years, then don't practise social distancing and moan when they all get Covid, most of which they brought with them.

Bloody Nora. This post...

 

[thør]

this thread reeks of racism

The English always bitch about the French....

 

[oggbashan]

The English always bitch about the French....

And the French bitch about the English.

But back on topic. The English postal system is far better than the French one. Dealing with a French post office is like going to the front office of a hell-inspired bureaucracy whereas a Britlsh sub-postmaster will usually try hard to be helpful.

 

[Funit]

It wouldn't be practical or doable for the postal service to operate in the way that you seem to expect it to.

In my local shops there are a brand of sweets being sold on the shelves along with all the other brands; the factory that makes this brand of sweets is literally down the road about a mile away but I wouldn't expect the factory to organise a man and a van to physically deliver the sweets to the shops in the local vicinity, the supply chains of the shops just don't work like that. For overall efficiency it's all about centralised depots and distribution centres and wholesale supply.

 

[oggbashan]

I was wrong about Ogg. He is no better than BusyBody. I shouldn't be surprised...a staunch supporter of Brexit. Pieces of shit always float to the top.

Never staunch. I supported it with reluctance because the EU, which I voted to join, has changed to a self-serving expensive bureaucracy that is neither responsible nor accountable.

They are still trying to make things as difficult as possible for the British. The decision, hastily retracted over the Irish border, is an example of how they have acted in bad faith for years.

I am sorry because I see myself as European with friends in many countries, but I see the EU as having morphed into a controlling and uncontrollable entity. Many Europeans are as disappointed with the EU as the British but most still see some benefits in belonging. But if there were to be referendums for 'In or out' of the EU today, there would be no guarantee that the EU would be supported by majorities in every EU state.

PS. One of the obstacles to the negotiations with the UK over Brexit was about the free movement of EU citizens which was said to be an unchangeable requirement. Yet many EU countries have now closed their borders to the EU's fury, to reduce the spread of Covid. If countries cannot protect their own citizens without offending the EU - the EU is going too far.


PPS: One of the EU's buzzwords is 'subsidiarity' - the right of countries or regions within a country to interpret and apply the EU decisions to suit their own locality. That recognised that some EU states - Germany and Italy for example are federal, not unitary. Bavarians do not think nor act like Prussians. Those in Italy's Alto Adige/South Tyrol are German-speaking and have a separate identity.

But the EU has not acted as if subsidiarity had any meaning. They have constantly issued universal directives with no understanding that some places may find those rules offensive.

Even in the UK, we have substantial differences. The UK as a whole was a net funder of the EU, but Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland were net beneficiaries. That was reflected in the referendum vote.

Even in England, we have vast differences. What has a Geordie in common with someone from Sussex? Or a Londoner with someone from rural Devon? Subsidiarity should mean that the rules are applied differently. They weren't. One size is supposed to fit all. Given the vast differences across the EU that was stupid.