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[jaF0]

The Indianapolis Museum of Art posted a job description seeking a director that could maintain its 'traditional, core, white art audience'

The job description asked that a director be able to court a new, diverse audience while preserving its "traditional, core, white art audience."

https://www.insider.com/indianapolis-museum-of-art-job-posting-white-art-audience-2021-2


Hmmm, where is former Veep Mikey P from?

 

[WillJ8787]

The Indianapolis Museum of Art posted a job description seeking a director that could maintain its 'traditional, core, white art audience'

The job description asked that a director be able to court a new, diverse audience while preserving its "traditional, core, white art audience."

https://www.insider.com/indianapolis-museum-of-art-job-posting-white-art-audience-2021-2


Hmmm, where is former Veep Mikey P from?

Wtf! The more I read about Minneapolis and surrounding state the more Racist a place it appears to be. No wonder Bobo loves it there.

 

[jaF0]

Well, you got the 'polis' part right at least.

 

[WillJ8787]

Oppps, well Indianapolis can join Minneapolis as racism central...lol!

I better get a cup of coffee and wake up!

 

[CornusKousa]

The Indianapolis Museum of Art posted a job description seeking a director that could maintain its 'traditional, core, white art audience'

The job description asked that a director be able to court a new, diverse audience while preserving its "traditional, core, white art audience."

https://www.insider.com/indianapolis-museum-of-art-job-posting-white-art-audience-2021-2


Hmmm, where is former Veep Mikey P from?

OMG white people who don't hate white people and themselves for being white!!!

Call the fucking Army to come put them all in camps!!!

 

[CornusKousa]

Oppps, well Indianapolis can join Minneapolis as racism central...lol!

I better get a cup of coffee and wake up!

Not hating white people for being white people...not hating art because it was made by a white person is racism??

LOL I'm sending them a letter and some money to support them right now.

Thanks WillJ!!!

 

[WillJ8787]

You do that racist.

 

[phrodeau]

From a real news source:

https://www.wthr.com/mobile/article...ting/531-c5ce18ec-42e4-4f28-a2dc-be4b33af91e0

The full statement from Newfields reads:
"Our audience – and most museums’ audiences – have historically been, and currently are, too homogeneous, and we are committed to changing that and intentionally diversifying our audiences. We deeply regret that in our job description, in our attempt to focus on building and diversifying our core audience, our wording was divisive rather than inclusive. Our intention is to continue to build an institution that is truly inclusive. It will be our challenge for years to come to continue building our diversity, equity and inclusion in our hiring, programs, artwork, exhibitions and more, and we are committed to doing so."

 

[CornusKousa]

You do that racist.

How is that racist??

They don't want to totally alienate white people for being white....literally the opposite of being racist.

I like supporting anti-racist causes and institutions.

 

[oggbashan]

There is a debate in the UK about how museums and public historical bodies treat black issues.

Too much of it is uninformed and unnuanced bigotry with no understanding that a public benefactor could have profited from slave trading by his ancestors although he might have been against it himself.

Those shouting loudest seem to have no knowledge of the issues they are shouting about. What a surprise.

UK museums and other institutions like the National Trust want them to be more used by minorities who seem to think - 'They're not for us' but IF they go, find they actually are.

For example, the British Museum's collections of African Art are unrivalled in the world. The Horniman Museum in South London has a very large and diverse ethnic collection.

 

[WillJ8787]

How is that racist??

They don't want to totally alienate white people for being white....literally the opposite of being racist.

I like supporting anti-racist causes and institutions.

You do that Racist.

 

[WillJ8787]

There is a debate in the UK about how museums and public historical bodies treat black issues.

Too much of it is uninformed and unnuanced bigotry with no understanding that a public benefactor could have profited from slave trading by his ancestors although he might have been against it himself.

Those shouting loudest seem to have no knowledge of the issues they are shouting about. What a surprise.

UK museums and other institutions like the National Trust want them to be more used by minorities who seem to think - 'They're not for us' but IF they go, find they actually are.

For example, the British Museum's collections of African Art are unrivalled in the world. The Horniman Museum in South London has a very large and diverse ethnic collection.

I think you folks in the UK are doing a better job of it than most of our institutions here...

"The Indianapolis Museum of Art at Newfields apologized Saturday for a job posting asking applicants to attract a "broader and more diverse audience" while maintaining its "traditional, core, white art audience."
Source: link in first post.

Museums, Orchestra's Opera and Ballet have been notoriously anti-black and anti-diversity and many are "behind the scenes" this way to today. What I mean by this is... the culture of the Board of Directors and the top officers are too often totally monied, wealthy whites who have zero interaction with anyone if color and as a result you get press releases, internal communications and even job postings like this one that are blatantly racist. Often, and I'm sure in cases like this one, the reason no one caught the racism is because they have no ability or self awareness that they are actually engaging in racism.

For example, in Ballet, it has taken way to long to remove the Chinamen dancers in the Nutcracker. It is blatantly racist and white board members still cannot fathom why...to their credit most have removed this aspect of racism but only by being told they must...the don't see it for themselves. They are in an insulated white world.

For those who don't understand...

Promoting diversity while promoting "tradition white audiences" is extremely racist. It is also classist....white audiences translates to white donars who they want to not offend by catering to diverse ethnic themes of blacks, browns, and other folks of color. White donors are the top funding source for just about all these organizations. Offending then means less money...hence why the racism persists.

 

[CornusKousa]

You do that Racist.

How is that racist??

Anti racism isn't racism.

Promoting diversity while promoting "tradition white audiences" is extremely racist.

No, it's not.

It is also classist....white audiences translates to white donars who they want to not offend by catering to diverse ethnic themes of blacks, browns, and other folks of color.

Awwwwwwwwwwww........poor oppressed WillJ and bigots against whites will ahve to accept that white people exist and shouldn't be ashamed of being white.

How said for you and the other racists.

White donors are the top funding source for just about all these organizations. Offending then means less money...hence why the racism persists.

Oh no!!! Not being racist towards white people......poor willJ and other racist are super upset.

What's wrong with not alienating white people for being white?? Why is not being racist such a problem for you??

 

[oggbashan]

I think you folks in the UK are doing a better job of it than most of our institutions here...

"The Indianapolis Museum of Art at Newfields apologized Saturday for a job posting asking applicants to attract a "broader and more diverse audience" while maintaining its "traditional, core, white art audience."
Source: link in first post.

Museums, Orchestra's Opera and Ballet have been notoriously anti-black and anti-diversity and many are "behind the scenes" this way to today. What I mean by this is... the culture of the Board of Directors and the top officers are too often totally monied, wealthy whites who have zero interaction with anyone if color and as a result you get press releases, internal communications and even job postings like this one that are blatantly racist. Often, and I'm sure in cases like this one, the reason no one caught the racism is because they have no ability or self awareness that they are actually engaging in racism.

For example, in Ballet, it has taken way to long to remove the Chinamen dancers in the Nutcracker. It is blatantly racist and white board members still cannot fathom why...to their credit most have removed this aspect of racism but only by being told they must...the don't see it for themselves. They are in an insulated white world.

For those who don't understand...

Promoting diversity while promoting "tradition white audiences" is extremely racist. It is also classist....white audiences translates to white donars who they want to not offend by catering to diverse ethnic themes of blacks, browns, and other folks of color. White donors are the top funding source for just about all these organizations. Offending then means less money...hence why the racism persists.

For an example of how the UK is different: The Royal Ballet's prima ballerinas have been French and Chinese. Carlos Acosta (Cuban) was much loved and sorely missed.

The Nutcracker dances, Chinese, Arabian, American - yes they are racist but are part of the history of that work. But UK ballet has diversified with works such as Elite Syncopations with music by Scott Joplin. Too much classical ballet is based on very dated themes - princes, hunters, fairies, etc but no one now in London seems to care if the Prince (or princess) is black, yellow, or whatever. It is the skill of the performer that matters and some non-British performers are fantastic.

Carlos Acosta's staging of Don Quixote has a Hispanic feel even if some of the dancers performing Spanish Dances are Chinese and nobody cares.

But the classical Ballet repertoire is still predominately white (as is classical opera) with some exceptions such as Rossini's The Italian Girl in Algiers, and Mozarts Cosi Fan Tutti and Die Entfurung. I have even seen a black Sarastro and Queen of the Night in The Magic Flute which didn't really correct the racist stereotype of Monostatos.

 

[WillJ8787]

For an example of how the UK is different: The Royal Ballet's prima ballerinas have been French and Chinese. Carlos Acosta (Cuban) was much loved and sorely missed.

The Nutcracker dances, Chinese, Arabian, American - yes they are racist but are part of the history of that work. But UK ballet has diversified with works such as Elite Syncopations with music by Scott Joplin. Too much classical ballet is based on very dated themes - princes, hunters, fairies, etc but no one now in London seems to care if the Prince (or princess) is black, yellow, or whatever. It is the skill of the performer that matters and some non-British performers are fantastic.

Carlos Acosta's staging of Don Quixote has a Hispanic feel even if some of the dancers performing Spanish Dances are Chinese and nobody cares.

But the classical Ballet repertoire is still predominately white (as is classical opera) with some exceptions such as Rossini's The Italian Girl in Algiers, and Mozarts Cosi Fan Tutti and Die Entfurung. I have even seen a black Sarastro and Queen of the Night in The Magic Flute which didn't really correct the racist stereotype of Monostatos.

This is interesting. Most Ballet and Opera Companies here(to a lesser extent the orchestra, museums) are limited again by these groups of "traditional white donors) in presenting newer, non-traditional Ballet's because the donors actively complain and threaten to withdraw donations. It's a big problem.that continues to limit diverse audiences, performers from engaging and entering into these worlds.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Poor lil Dumb-Dumb claims he's good with money whilst sending it to a bunch of losers.

 

[oggbashan]

This is interesting. Most Ballet and Opera Companies here(to a lesser extent the orchestra, museums) are limited again by these groups of "traditional white donors) in presenting newer, non-traditional Ballet's because the donors actively complain and threaten to withdraw donations. It's a big problem.that continues to limit diverse audiences, performers from engaging and entering into these worlds.

Experimental performances will always attract smaller audiences than the familiar classics, but we have a more diverse group of funders, many of whom are NOT white British. Even those that are White British seem more willing to fund new works.

 

[CornusKousa]

This is interesting. Most Ballet and Opera Companies here(to a lesser extent the orchestra, museums) are limited again by these groups of "traditional white donors) in presenting newer, non-traditional Ballet's because the donors actively complain and threaten to withdraw donations. It's a big problem.that continues to limit diverse audiences, performers from engaging and entering into these worlds.

Awwwww...the money rejected the woke and WillJ is upset about it.

It's not a problem.

Nothing is stopping the black ballet from opening....
http://31.media.tumblr.com/f2151b94f4aeceec521066f660826628/tumblr_mkprcit26g1s7hrkfo1_400.gif

The problem is that NOBODY is willing to pay for it.

And if they're not, then too fuckin' bad....if you want in on the ballet market, fine art market, then up your fine arts game.

Poor lil Dumb-Dumb claims he's good with money whilst sending it to a bunch of losers.

Art is for losers? Wow....Luk is showing that SoCal level of culture there.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

No, you're sending money to losers, not to support art. What the fuck is wrong with you?

 

[rae121452]

The Indianapolis Museum of Art posted a job description seeking a director that could maintain its 'traditional, core, white art audience'

The job description asked that a director be able to court a new, diverse audience while preserving its "traditional, core, white art audience."

https://www.insider.com/indianapolis-museum-of-art-job-posting-white-art-audience-2021-2


Hmmm, where is former Veep Mikey P from?

this whole issue is bullshit and dogwhistling. in case no one has noticed, 99% of art museum are filled with white, western art. our museum has pictures of old dead white folks on every fucking wall. on the first floor, back in an obscure corner, there is an african art exhibit. the last time i was there the lighting in the room was turned off, so even if you did find it you couldn't see it. and our museum has a world class collection of native american artifacts and artwork...which is all in storage, none of it on display. art museums have a traditional, core, white audience. at least the dumb fuckers in indy are making an effort to diversify, no matter how clumsy their language. they admit they want to keep their donor base while expanding their purview-i applaud their honesty. AND in case no one has noticed, even on the national mall in washington there is an 'african american museum' and a 'native american museum', making sure that those groups don't get confused with REAL white western art. no race mingling, thank you!

 

[WillJ8787]

Experimental performances will always attract smaller audiences than the familiar classics, but we have a more diverse group of funders, many of whom are NOT white British. Even those that are White British seem more willing to fund new works.

I think you hit on the key...more diverse group of supporters. There is a real fear of losing current supporters for this end. Many of us think it is more than possible and often use examples like you have present ..I will make sure to add this to some of my discussions with folks about a pathway towards this diversity.

 

[oggbashan]

I think you hit on the key...more diverse group of supporters. There is a real fear of losing current supporters for this end. Many of us think it is more than possible and often use examples like you have present ..I will make sure to add this to some of my discussions with folks about a pathway towards this diversity.

The pandemic has decimated the arts in the UK, but before that, black artists and performers could earn a living here.

Museums and art galleries are crying out for ethnic exhibits and events and those attract an audience, even if the audience is too white. Going to art galleries and museums is not seen as a BAME interest - yet but more of such groups were, before the pandemic, finding that they were welcome.

The Horniman Museum in South London was a good example. The cafe was often crowded with young black mothers and children eating Caribbean food before going around the museum.

I went to an open-air music event at Osterley Park (National Trust). My youngest grandchild was fascinated by the African native drummers and one persuaded her, aged five, to join in. It made her day.

 

[CornusKousa]

No, you're sending money to losers, not to support art. What the fuck is wrong with you?

Nothing, it is to support art.

this whole issue is bullshit and dogwhistling. in case no one has noticed, 99% of art museum are filled with white, western art. our museum has pictures of old dead white folks on every fucking wall. on the first floor, back in an obscure corner, there is an african art exhibit. the last time i was there the lighting in the room was turned off, so even if you did find it you couldn't see it. and our museum has a world class collection of native american artifacts and artwork...which is all in storage, none of it on display. art museums have a traditional, core, white audience. at least the dumb fuckers in indy are making an effort to diversify, no matter how clumsy their language. they admit they want to keep their donor base while expanding their purview-i applaud their honesty. AND in case no one has noticed, even on the national mall in washington there is an 'african american museum' and a 'native american museum', making sure that those groups don't get confused with REAL white western art. no race mingling, thank you!

Awwwww someone is upset that white western art is a part of the arts.

Oh well, racist gotta racist!!

I think you hit on the key...more diverse group of supporters. There is a real fear of losing current supporters for this end. Many of us think it is more than possible and often use examples like you have present ..I will make sure to add this to some of my discussions with folks about a pathway towards this diversity.

"diversity" here meaning .....more excluding of whites.

Despite what people are willing to pay for and what they aren't.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Nothing, it is to support art.

Orly? What art? Which pieces? Who are the artists you're supporting? Yeah, STFU, Poor lil Dumb-Dumb. You ain't sending your gummint dollars to no one.

 

[CornusKousa]

Orly? What art? Which pieces? Who are the artists you're supporting? Yeah, STFU, Poor lil Dumb-Dumb. You ain't sending your gummint dollars to no one.

Whatever artist The Indianapolis Museum of Art decides to display.

Or what? You'll stamp your racist art hating feet some more??? LOL