Babies can't vote.

[islandman]

Which is probably why Trump didn't do anything to protect them when a report landed on his desk in 2019 that detailed that the baby food industry was shipping product that contained chemicals that exceeded the industry's already absurdly high thresholds.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/04/health/baby-food-metals-arsenic.html

 

[LupusDei]

Lead poisoning makes babies idiots. Idiots vote Trump. Logic!

 

[Dribble]

Unfortunately, I know something about this. Oysters are raised in the Pacific Northwest. They eat algae.

Over a decade ago, China refused to import oysters from the PNW, because their Cadmium levels were higher than they allowed.

The Olympia and Cascade Mountains are made of rock...igneous rock...that happens to have a sizable amount of Cadmium. It rains a lot in the PNW. Rain means erosion. So whatever is in the mountains, ends up in the Sound.

The central element of chlorophyll is Magnesium. It is a 2a element. Guess what Cadmium is....2b. That means under the right situations, it has the ability to replace Magnesium in certain compounds.

So oysters eat algae. Algae has chlorophyll. Oysters eat chlorophyll. Chlorophyll has Magnesium. Oysters eat Magnesium. Magnesium can be replaced by Cadmium. Oysters eat Cadmium.

The Cadmium was a reflection of naturally occuring amounts in the region.

Now, let's look at where the majority of vegetables are grown. The Central and Imperial Valleys of California. What surrounds these valleys? Mountains. What kind of mountains? Igneous. The kind high in Lead, Arsenic, Cadmium ect.

I am not saying something is not amiss. I am saying, our ability to detect small amounts of heavy metals has increased and it is 100% possible there is nothing wrong here other than a reflection of background levels. More research should be done before freaking out.

 

[sighLent]

Which is probably why Trump didn't do anything to protect them when a report landed on his desk in 2019 that detailed that the baby food industry was shipping product that contained chemicals that exceeded the industry's already absurdly high thresholds.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/04/health/baby-food-metals-arsenic.html

no doubt this started Nov 2016 and ended Jan 20 2021

 

[Dribble]

no doubt this started Nov 2016 and ended Jan 20 2021

What we do know...the report was buried by that Administration. Follow the money.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

70+ million babies voted for Baby Huey.

 

[islandman]

no doubt this started Nov 2016 and ended Jan 20 2021

The reportable event is the date on the report, Slick.

 

[sighLent]

The reportable event is the date on the report, Slick.

speaking of BABIES and your concern

How many have you killed via abortion

 

[YDB95]

speaking of BABIES and your concern

How many have you killed via abortion

None. Next question?

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Anyone who votes for party that supports elective late term abortion even when the mother’s life is not in danger really should abstain from this conversation.

 

[YDB95]

Anyone who votes for party that supports elective late term abortion even when the mother’s life is not in danger really should abstain from this conversation.

Then it's a good thing no one here has ever voiced support for any such thing.

 

[Dribble]

Then it's a good thing no one here has ever voiced support for any such thing.

It is called early onset Dementia. It happens with old people. They loose grip on reality. What they think...becomes their reality even though it didn't happen.

 

[stickygirl]

Which is probably why Trump didn't do anything to protect them when a report landed on his desk in 2019 that detailed that the baby food industry was shipping product that contained chemicals that exceeded the industry's already absurdly high thresholds.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/04/health/baby-food-metals-arsenic.html

I would add that apparently inorganic arsenic is the only metal for which a minimum level is set: there are currently no legislative guidelines for cadmium, lead, mercury amongst others. That seems to be the thrust of this report
"The US Food and Drug Administration has not yet set minimum levels for heavy metals in most infant food."

"...Baby food ingredients in certain products contained up to 91 times the inorganic arsenic level, up to 177 times the lead level, up to 69 times the cadmium level, and up to five times the mercury level allowed in bottled water, the report said, yet the companies still approved those products for sale."

As a side note - do you seriously think the report got as far as Trump's desk?!

Interesting further note on oysters, since it came up: a major threat to oyster populations is the presence of micro-plastic and glass fibres. Oysters and clams mature as males, then later change sex to female if conditions are favourable to produce eggs ( because making eggs is energy intensive ). In areas high in pollutants the populations are stressed and the change does not occur at sufficiently high levels so populations crash.

This is always a useful factoid to anyone banging on about sex change being 'unnatural'.

 

[stickygirl]

Babies eating oysters seems the world upside-down. Isn't the normal order - it starts with oysters, it ends with babies?

It gave me a chance to offload some useless info on oysters I've been lugging around in my brain I've never knowingly eaten an oyster, as an infant or since though I've chewed the ends of plenty pencils.

 

[sighLent]

Anyone who votes for party that supports elective late term abortion even when the mother’s life is not in danger really should abstain from this conversation.

yup!

 

[Dribble]

Babies eating oysters seems the world upside-down. Isn't the normal order - it starts with oysters, it ends with babies?

Sorry it is over your head. Doesn't surprise me.

Me: I wonder...where do plants get their nutrients and minerals from? What was that word i learned long ago?

You: Soil?

Me: The soil....cool. So the nutrients and minerals come from the soil?

You: Yes...but they require water to access those.

Me: Interesting. Oh well...it is over your head.

You: Not really...but I like acting stupid for attention.

Me: I guess everyone has their kinks

 

[butters]

https://oversight.house.gov/sites/d...les/2021-02-04 ECP Baby Food Staff Report.pdf

 

[butters]

from that link:

These results are multiples higher than allowed under existing regulations for other products. For example, the Food and Drug Administration has set the maximum allowable levels in bottled water at 10 ppb inorganic arsenic, 5 ppb lead, and 5 ppb cadmium, and the Environmental Protection Agency has capped the allowable level of mercury in drinking water at 2 ppb. The test results of baby foods and their ingredients eclipse those levels: including results up to 91 times the arsenic level, up to 177 times the
lead level, up to 69 times the cadmium level, and up to 5 times the mercury level.

2. Internal company standards permit dangerously high levels of toxic heavy metals, and documents revealed that the manufacturers have often sold foods that exceeded those
levels.

• Beech-Nut and Hain (Earth’s Best Organic) do not even test for mercury
in baby food.
• Gerber rarely tests for mercury in its baby foods.



This presentation made clear that ingredient testing is inadequate, and that only final product testing can measure the true danger posed by baby foods.
The Trump FDA took no new action in response. To this day, baby foods containing toxic heavy metals bear no label or warning to parents. Manufacturers are free to test only ingredients, or, for the vast majority of baby foods, to conduct no testing at all.
FDA has only finalized one metal standard for one narrow category of baby food, setting a 100 ppb inorganic arsenic standard for infant rice cereal. But this FDA standard is far too high to protect against the neurological effects on children.

it goes on with recommendations about what actions should be taken to address these facts

 

[Dribble]

You may pretend to know something, but that doesn't make it relevant.

Where are vegetables grown?

Where are most of the vegetables grown in the US ? (I provided this answer but you can Google it if you don'twant to believe my response)

What mountains surround these regions?

Where did the soil come in these regions?

Are these mountains igneous or sedimentary?

What heavy metals naturally exist in the mountains?

Where does the eroded material from these mountains end up?

And back we come...what do vegetables grow in?

Need me to keep holding your hand?

 

[Dribble]

What do oysters eat?

Where does the nutrients used by the algae come from?

Where do the heavy metals that end up in oysters come from?

Oh look...same fucking process. Imagine that.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Then it's a good thing no one here has ever voiced support for any such thing.

Agree. It’s great that we haven’t seen any Listers express support for the kind sick legislation pushed by Democratic leaders in Virginia and other states.

 

[YDB95]

Agree. It’s great that we haven’t seen any Listers express support for the kind sick legislation pushed by Democratic leaders in Virginia and other states.

That legislation didn't do anything approaching what you suggest. Again, no one is calling for elective late-term abortions. There just is no there there.

 

[EmptyTank]

What we do know...the report was buried by that Administration. Follow the money.

not logical
first you expound about nothing to see here

and then you say that when government reaches the same conclusion
that they are burying the information but by allusion
you admit the information is out there

does government act on every report received