If the GOP is to rise from the ashes, it has to burn first

[Secretive_Victoria]

Parties reform and rebuild themselves after suffering massive, scorched-earth defeats. Since Republicans decided to follow Donald Trump and Fox News into the dystopian hellscape of white supremacy, paranoid conspiracy theory and know-nothing rejection of science, they have lost control of both chambers of Congress and the White House. Yet it has become obvious that those defeats are not nearly enough.

You might think the violent and deadly Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol — an unprecedented attack on our democracy, incited by Trump's election-fraud Big Lie — would snap the GOP back into reality. Unbelievably, though, you would be wrong.

If anything, the party is heading deeper into the wilderness. Look at how the two most powerful Republicans left in Washington behaved last week. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) made a pilgrimage to Mar-a-Lago to bend the knee to Trump. And Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) voted to question whether Trump's coming impeachment trial is even constitutional.

What had looked like a flicker of sanity earlier, when McCarthy said Trump, among others, had some "responsibility" for the Capitol riot and McConnell said Trump "provoked" it, was nothing but a mirage. And anyone who expects there to be 17 Republican votes in the Senate to convict Trump, no matter how damning the evidence may be, will almost surely be disappointed.

No one should have any doubt: The GOP bears no resemblance to the party of Abraham Lincoln. It is now the party of Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), who believes in the hallucinatory QAnon conspiracy theory, who has suggested that former secretary of state Hillary Clinton is a child murderer and who thinks 2018's California wildfires may have been ignited by a giant space-based laser somehow controlled by Jews. Also, high-speed rail is involved somehow.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...c82e24-64c2-11eb-8468-21bc48f07fe5_story.html

 

[Ireadforpleasure]

Parties reform and rebuild themselves after suffering massive, scorched-earth defeats. Since Republicans decided to follow Donald Trump and Fox News into the dystopian hellscape of white supremacy, paranoid conspiracy theory and know-nothing rejection of science, they have lost control of both chambers of Congress and the White House. Yet it has become obvious that those defeats are not nearly enough.

You might think the violent and deadly Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol — an unprecedented attack on our democracy, incited by Trump's election-fraud Big Lie — would snap the GOP back into reality. Unbelievably, though, you would be wrong.

If anything, the party is heading deeper into the wilderness. Look at how the two most powerful Republicans left in Washington behaved last week. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) made a pilgrimage to Mar-a-Lago to bend the knee to Trump. And Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) voted to question whether Trump's coming impeachment trial is even constitutional.

What had looked like a flicker of sanity earlier, when McCarthy said Trump, among others, had some "responsibility" for the Capitol riot and McConnell said Trump "provoked" it, was nothing but a mirage. And anyone who expects there to be 17 Republican votes in the Senate to convict Trump, no matter how damning the evidence may be, will almost surely be disappointed.

No one should have any doubt: The GOP bears no resemblance to the party of Abraham Lincoln. It is now the party of Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), who believes in the hallucinatory QAnon conspiracy theory, who has suggested that former secretary of state Hillary Clinton is a child murderer and who thinks 2018's California wildfires may have been ignited by a giant space-based laser somehow controlled by Jews. Also, high-speed rail is involved somehow.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...c82e24-64c2-11eb-8468-21bc48f07fe5_story.html

The GOP is no longer a political party. It is a white supremacist cult that gives aid and comfort to domestic terrorists like the Proud Boys, while viciously attacking and demonizing peaceful protestors like Colin Kaepernick.

 

[coati]

Fox Noose

The GOP is no longer a political party. It is a white supremacist cult that gives aid and comfort to domestic terrorists like the Proud Boys, while viciously attacking and demonizing peaceful protestors like Colin Kaepernick.

This is what happens when an entire political party is based upon what they hear hourly from a TV station that should be renamed as Fox Noose.

They set out to hang the colored people, and ended up hanging themselves.

 

[CornusKousa]

"rise from the ashes" meaning they toe the progressive (D) line and accept the totalitarian communist state as their lord and savior.


LOL...never going to happen sister, you're going to have to kill MILLIONS of us to get what you want.

 

[WillJ8787]

I was wondering what that burnt smell is when I go outside.

Blaaahaaahaaa!

 

[Dribble]

I was wondering what that burnt smell is when I go outside.

Blaaahaaahaaa!

When I was young, a horse race track caught on fire. They opened the gates and chased the horses out. Yet....they ran back in because their stables were all they knew and died. You could smell the burnt horse flesh for weeks. It must really suck not being smarter than a horse

 

[WillJ8787]

When I was young, a horse race track caught on fire. They opened the gates and chased the horses out. Yet....they ran back in because their stables were all they knew and died. You could smell the burnt horse flesh for weeks. It must really suck not being smarter than a horse

Liked!!!

 

[Adre]

Trumpism = American Fascism.

We may end up with an America First White Nationalist Party along with a resized and reformed Republican Party. It could take them decades to compete with the Democratic Party.

BoBo’s nonsense about Commie Leftist neoMaoist in 5,4,3...

Maybe he’ll surprise and actually form a cogent analytical thought based on reality...

Nah.

 

[CornusKousa]

Trumpism = American Fascism.

We may end up with an America First White Nationalist Party along with a resized and reformed Republican Party. It could take them decades to compete with the Democratic Party.

BoBo’s nonsense about Commie Leftist neoMaoist in 5,4,3...

^^ enjoys the nice cost of living and comfortable retirement provided by "America First White Nationalist Party" and won't live the way he wants to force others to live by moving to the Left coast or New England where he can live under his "America Last" progress that he so wants to force upon the rest of us.

And if you think "trumpism" (liberalism) = American Fascism?? You really are insanely left wing.

Considering there are 75 million confirmed fascist/America First White Nationalist running around, including TOTAL control over the state you live in??

I'd say you got a big fuckin' problem there comrade.....maybe you should move to the CHAZ/CHOP in Seattle....more your kinda place.

Maybe he’ll surprise and actually form a cogent analytical thought based on reality...

Nah.

From someone as radical left as you all that means adopting the most insane leftist ideas on the internet.

No...that's not going to happen.

 

[jaF0]

All y'all need to get over yourselves and quit recycling the same shit. You fuckers post the same fucking shit every day, several times a day.

The GOP isn't going anywhere. They gained seats in the house and many state offices over recent years. If anything, they may be stronger now than they were a year ago.

 

[Adre]

The split is more like 40 million Republicans and 35 million hardcore Trumpist Fascists. Those who back Cheney vs those who back the unhinged QAnon moron from north Georgia.

 

[CornusKousa]

All y'all need to get over yourselves and quit recycling the same shit. You fuckers post the same fucking shit every day, several times a day.

The GOP isn't going anywhere. They gained seats in the house and many state offices over recent years. If anything, they may be stronger now than they were a year ago.

JaF0 has a grip on reality.....

The split is more like 40 million Republicans and 35 million hardcore Trumpist Fascists. Those who back Cheney vs those who back the unhinged QAnon moron from north Georgia.

Because there is no reality based argument for their being fascist I'm assuming that you're just being a hyperbolic hypocrite, enjoying retirement in arguably the most fascist state in the union.

And in case you didn't notice, Cheney is very much in the minority...and I bet most of them lose their job for it. The era of "Republicans" being little more than Democrats from 2-5 years ago that chastise actual liberals for not toing the big gubmint authority line and side with (D)emocrats, the on everything pro government infringing on individual liberty??

The Bush/Romney/Cheney/Boehner era of (D)emocrat ass lickers??

Is fuckin' over until further notice.

Thank you President Trump.

 

[WillJ8787]

Trump is a liberal.... blaaahaaahaaa, blaaahaaahaaa!

Tell me another good one.

 

[Adre]

Just the start


In the week from Jan. 6 through Jan. 12, about 4,600 Republicans changed their party status in Colorado, according to a CPR News analysis. There was no comparable effect with any other party. CPR News was able to contact dozens of them by tracking changes in the state's voter file.

The number of people changing parties spiked immediately after the Capitol breach. The same phenomenon is playing out nationwide. News outlets documented about 6,000 defections from the party in North Carolina, 10,000 in Pennsylvania and 5,000 in Arizona.

 

[CornusKousa]

Trump is a liberal.... blaaahaaahaaa, blaaahaaahaaa!

Tell me another good one.

Actual liberal....not to be conflated with leftist.

 

[Lazaran]

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Creeping Charlie knows right wing politics are unraveling, and between changing demographics and ideological infighting, the republican party's days are numbered on the national stage. I'm guessing moderate republicans and independents will gravitate toward a relevant Democratic Party, which only further weakens the GOP nationally.

Sure, there will be pockets of racist fascist misogynists in various states who will continue to discriminate against minorities, suppress voters, pollute the environment, and control women's health choices; but much like reproductive inbreeding weakens a isolated group's physical and mental strength, narrow ideological inbreeding will weaken these isolated group's political and social strength. It's already happening on the far right, and to a lesser extent, on the far left.

The big tent sensible center progressive Democratic Party is going to be the dominant political and social force in America moving forward.

Get used to it.

 

[CornusKousa]

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Creeping Charlie knows right wing politics are unraveling,

RW politics are human default, so no they aren't.

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and between changing demographics and ideological infighting, the republican party's days are numbered on the national stage.

LOL y'all been saying that since Clinton won back in the early 90's.

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The big tent sensible center progressive Democratic Party is going to be the dominant political and social force in America moving forward.

"progressive" demcorats aren't center or sensible.

They're dingbat left, and considering what dumpster fires the cities/states they control are there isn't much sensible about them.

Get used to it.

LOL...nope, I'm going to send money to all the Trumps and Greene's running for office.

 

[Lazaran]

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Creeping Charlie is triggered by reality and the truth.

*chuckles*

 

[magicalmoments]

looking in from afar: it seems McCarthy is just another pussy that has been grabbed by trump. (that's twice impeached, former president trump that lost to the worst ever presidential candidate in USA history.)

 

[CornusKousa]

looking in from afar: it seems McCarthy is just another pussy that has been grabbed by trump. (that's twice impeached, former president trump that lost to the worst ever presidential candidate in USA history.)

Clearly not as Hillary lost to Trump LOL!!!

 

[CornusKousa]

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Creeping Charlie is triggered by reality and the truth.

*chuckles*

LOL...you never post either so keep that fantasy alive.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

To the OP: The GOP is not anywhere near a circumstance where they need to rebuild or in any way on the ropes.

In many ways they have never been stronger.

They continue to dominate in state legislatures and governorships. They gained in both in 2020 and took back more of the House. their membership, whatever you may think of them are devoted and of a singular purpose. Their leadership is wiling to be more reckless and drive the US towards oligarchy and authoritarianism, and they have attracted and embraced the religious fringe and have skillfully manipulated them and their zealotry.

So please let's recognize that relatively minor achievement of ridding America from a POTUS named Trump, was the removal of only one head of the hydra.

 

[coati]

This is a case where I hope that ProudBoBo is correct about the Republican Party purging all their moderates to remold it in the image of Donald Trump.

Yes, keep doubling down on that course, Deplorables!

 

[YDB95]

To the OP: The GOP is not anywhere near a circumstance where they need to rebuild or in any way on the ropes.

In many ways they have never been stronger.

They continue to dominate in state legislatures and governorships. They gained in both in 2020 and took back more of the House. their membership, whatever you may think of them are devoted and of a singular purpose. Their leadership is wiling to be more reckless and drive the US towards oligarchy and authoritarianism, and they have attracted and embraced the religious fringe and have skillfully manipulated them and their zealotry.

So please let's recognize that relatively minor achievement of ridding America from a POTUS named Trump, was the removal of only one head of the hydra.

I'd have to agree. As tremendous as it was that we got rid of Trump, we have a LOT of work left to do.

 

[Lazaran]

This is a case where I hope that ProudBoBo is correct about the Republican Party purging all their moderates to remold it in the image of Donald Trump.

Yes, keep doubling down on that course, Deplorables!

Creeping Charlie can't do simple math.

The irritating weed doesn't understand that changing demographics + the purging of moderate republicans + the alienation of moderate independents = the death or irrelevance of the GOP.

Potted plants are really dumb.