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Anon, instead of challenging my statements on the politics board, left this comment on five of my stories:

Anonymous7 minutes ago

racist fuckstain loozer ultra left radical cocksucker


If you can't argue with me here? You are a coward. The spelling, style, and the false statements are easily recognizable.

Anyone else had this?
 
I got similar comments a few weeks ago. Normally I don't delete even critical comments, but I made an exception this time.
 
Governing by Executive Order is Un-American

This is a dangerous trend and it is wrong no matter who does it. It absolutely does not contribute to a stated objective of "unity" in any way. It is symptomatic of a broken system. I understand the frustration in the Executive Branch. The Legislative Branch is dysfunctional and accomplishes nothing. Congress is comprised of professional politicians whose sole purpose is to galvanize "power" as opposed to representing the interests of their constituents. However, the truth is that this is the government the people voted for and deserve.
 
I reported but didn't delete, all of them.

As for the statements:

racist? No. I condemn BLM and the Proud Boys etc for all violence in their name. While I recognise that black people are unfairly targeted by law enforcement, I also know that in the UK at least, certain parts of the BAME community commit more crimes than their proportion fo the population ought to suggest. BLM is no longer just about unfairly treated black people. It has gone too far in its declared objectives so I cannot support the movement.

Fuckstain? - just abuse.

Loozer? I would like to be looser but cannot be because of spine damage. Loser? No. The anon who posted these comments is that.

Ultra left? Again no. In UK terms I am right-wing and in my youth was a right-wing activist. Yes, I defend the UK's NHS but unlike left-leaning people, I see nothing wrong with the NHS working with the private health sector. I have private medical insurance that would provide treatment if the NHS had a waiting time. Why not? If I am treated privately that takes one off the waiting list. But left-leaning people would regard me as a traitor for that.

In US terms I would be on the left of the Republicans but NEVER Democrat. Trump versus Biden? I would have abstained or voted 'neither of the above',


Radical? No. conservative with a small 'c'.

Cocksucker? Again just a term of abuse. No man ever sucks a cock in any one of my stories, but some women do.

So, cowardly anon - you are wrong and just flailing around because you can't win an argument when the facts are against your lies.
 
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I reported but didn't delete, all of them.

As for the statements:

racist? No. I condemn BLM and the Proud Boys etc for all violence in their name, While I recognise that black people are unfairly targeted by law enforcement, I also know that in the UK at least, certain parts of the BAME community commit more crimes than their proportion fo the population ought to suggest. BLM is no longer just about unfairly treated black people. It has gone too far in its declared objectives so I cannot support the movement.

Fuckstain? - just abuse.

Loozer? I would like to be looser but cannot de because of spine damage. Loser? No. The anon who posted these comments is that.

Ultra left? Again no. In UK terms I am right-wing and in my youth was a right-wing activist. Yes, I defend the UK's NHS but unlike left-leaning people, I see nothing wrong with the NHS working with the private health sector. I have private medical insurance that would provide treatment if the BHS had a waiting time. Why not? If I am treated privately that takes one off the waiting list. But left-leaning people would regard me as a traitor for that.

In US terms I would be on the left of the Republicans but NEVER Democrat. Trump versus Biden? I would have abstained or voted 'neither of the above',


Radical? No. conservative with a small 'c'.

Cocksucker? Again just a term of abuse. No man ever sucks a cock in anyone my stories, but some women do.

So, cowardly anon - you are wrong and just flailing around because you can't win an argument when the facts are against your lies.

Before I comment on the statement you made let me express my anger over the comments made re. your stories. There is no excuse for that sort of behavior.

Now to the part I emboldened. Over 50% of ALL felonies committed in the US are committed by Blacks. Not drug dealing felonies but murder, burglary, robbery, assault, etc. even though they represent only 13% of the population. Those are the facts and can be easily verified by going to the FBI-UCR site. Further, police go where the crimes are being committed, that's their job. Obviously this means that most black neighborhoods have a respectable police presence. This leads to a disconnect between perception and reality. Blacks ARE arrested far out of proportion to their representation of the population HOWEVER they are arrested roughly in proportion to their criminal activity. The press and 'community organizers' continuously bleat about the former whilst ignoring the latter. Don't fall for the bull shit perception the press is trying to create.
 
Before I comment on the statement you made let me express my anger over the comments made re. your stories. There is no excuse for that sort of behavior.

Now to the part I emboldened. Over 50% of ALL felonies committed in the US are committed by Blacks. Not drug dealing felonies but murder, burglary, robbery, assault, etc. even though they represent only 13% of the population. Those are the facts and can be easily verified by going to the FBI-UCR site. Further, police go where the crimes are being committed, that's their job. Obviously this means that most black neighborhoods have a respectable police presence. This leads to a disconnect between perception and reality. Blacks ARE arrested far out of proportion to their representation of the population HOWEVER they are arrested roughly in proportion to their criminal activity. The press and 'community organizers' continuously bleat about the former whilst ignoring the latter. Don't fall for the bull shit perception the press is trying to create.


I accept that blacks commit crimes. What I do NOT accept is that they should die when arrested, or get stiffer punishments for the same crime committed by whites. And that happens disproportionately. There is a real issue here if not all the things BLM is campaigning for.
 
I accept that blacks commit crimes. What I do NOT accept is that they should die when arrested, or get stiffer punishments for the same crime committed by whites. And that happens disproportionately. There is a real issue here if not all the things BLM is campaigning for.

I agree on that issue. Once again there is a disconnect between perception and reality. Whites are more likely to be fatally injured by police as a % of arrests than blacks. That particular fact is also overlooked by the press. My opinion is that NO ONE, no matter what their race, should die at the hands of the police if there is any other way of effecting the arrest. That means a lot of things have to change re. police training, procedures, etc.

This leads to another problem. BLM is focusing on that one issue (I abhor their politics but in this instance they are pointing out a problem). By doing this they are creating an impression that ONLY black lives matter. Whether that is purposeful or not, that is the impression they're creating. They would better serve themselves and the community by focusing on ALL wrongful deaths at the hands of the police.
 
I accept that blacks commit crimes. What I do NOT accept is that they should die when arrested, or get stiffer punishments for the same crime committed by whites. And that happens disproportionately.

Let me ask you this.

Do you think American black culture, the behaviors it encourages, the black people who take that to heart as their identity and behave accordingly....have any part/responsibility for that?? And it is American, because amazingly immigrants FROM Africa? Do great in the USA, way better than black Americans.

Or is it entirely because white people are just so evil and the whiteness that is the USA is so inherently racists and terrible???

There is a real issue here if not all the things BLM is campaigning for.

Yup, and the issues are ignored for bashing and hating of white people.....mostly by other white people.

BLM.....terrorism caught on film, Ogg will find an excuse, it's ok when his Marxist comrades resort to terrorism to get what they want.
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Now to the part I emboldened. Over 50% of ALL felonies committed in the US are committed by Blacks. Not drug dealing felonies but murder, burglary, robbery, assault, etc. even though they represent only 13% of the population. Those are the facts and can be easily verified by going to the FBI-UCR site. Further, police go where the crimes are being committed, that's their job. Obviously this means that most black neighborhoods have a respectable police presence. This leads to a disconnect between perception and reality. Blacks ARE arrested far out of proportion to their representation of the population HOWEVER they are arrested roughly in proportion to their criminal activity. The press and 'community organizers' continuously bleat about the former whilst ignoring the latter. Don't fall for the bull shit perception the press is trying to create.

Haven't it crossed your mind that the high criminality of blacks is a symptom indicating much deeper problems on, conceivably, a systemic level?

It basically boils down to economic situation and quality of education. There's saying, "show me a man and I will show the crime." It's virtually impossible to follow all laws all the time, especially if you don't know or understand them, but how you get around it and get away with it matter a lot. As it turns out in practice, following the law isn't actually free, it incurs collateral costs; so poor folks under certain threshold may feel like they can't afford to be law abiding, or don't even have other viable survival options. And no, poor people aren't guilty of being poor in any way, absolutely most of them are victims of a system that makes escape from their situation difficult.

I don't say you shouldn't arrest and prosecute murderers, of course you do, but if that's all you do you're fighting a windmill, because preventing the murder starts in education system. Where I recently read a paper claiming average grades of black kids go up significantly if at least one of their teachers is black. The implications of that is quite damming as it does illustrate in measurable ways systematic racism does indeed exist.
 
Haven't it crossed your mind that the high criminality of blacks is a symptom indicating much deeper problems on, conceivably, a systemic level?

It basically boils down to economic situation and quality of education. There's saying, "show me a man and I will show the crime." It's virtually impossible to follow all laws all the time, especially if you don't know or understand them, but how you get around it and get away with it matter a lot. As it turns out in practice, following the law isn't actually free, it incurs collateral costs; so poor folks under certain threshold may feel like they can't afford to be law abiding, or don't even have other viable survival options. And no, poor people aren't guilty of being poor in any way, absolutely most of them are victims of a system that makes escape from their situation difficult.

I don't say you shouldn't arrest and prosecute murderers, of course you do, but if that's all you do you're fighting a windmill, because preventing the murder starts in education system. Where I recently read a paper claiming average grades of black kids go up significantly if at least one of their teachers is black. The implications of that is quite damming as it does illustrate in measurable ways systematic racism does indeed exist.

First of all it's NOT systemic. At least not in the context that the white population is purposely creating that situation. Education is certainly a large part of it, but an even larger part is the culture within the black community itself. (At this time I should point out that approx. 98% of the victims of those crimes are also black.) Fatherless children also play a central role in this travesty.

The public education system in the US is horrible. A system that's gotten even worse with the intervention of the Federal Government as well as the Teachers Unions. The focus has changed from educating the children to obtaining as much money as is possible. This has lead to the consolidation of school districts so as to qualify for more funds leading to a top heavy, overpaid, administrators.

Re. black teachers. I don't question the study at this time but I will point out that minority teachers are NOT underrepresented. What is going on here is that as the teachers gain tenure they transfer out of the inner city schools to the suburbs as fast as they can. Truly qualified teachers even faster. This leaves the inner city schools with inexperienced and/or poorly qualified teachers. It's a huge problem with no solution in sight.
 
Haven't it crossed your mind that the high criminality of blacks is a symptom indicating much deeper problems on, conceivably, a systemic level?

It basically boils down to economic situation and quality of education.

I think it's more than even that.

You can throw money and quality education at them until they kill themselves with it like a pop star or lotto winner....if they don't have a culture that values and uses those things appropriately they will never get out of the mindset that keeps them where they are.

If the USA really is so systemically racist and evil white supremacist empire....why the fuck are so many black, Latino and Asian immigrants doing so well here??

Until the black community in the USA figures out that they play a role in this?? Nothing will get better for them.
 
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See how easy it is to trigger racists? They won't post about what the OP made a thread about...but as soon as one mentions the criminality of blacks...they pile on.
 
This is basically the argument against Affirmative Action as well, isn't it?

Once white people become a minority in the USA and face a century or two of backlash, maybe things will reach equilibrium.

I agree on that issue. Once again there is a disconnect between perception and reality. Whites are more likely to be fatally injured by police as a % of arrests than blacks. That particular fact is also overlooked by the press. My opinion is that NO ONE, no matter what their race, should die at the hands of the police if there is any other way of effecting the arrest. That means a lot of things have to change re. police training, procedures, etc.

This leads to another problem. BLM is focusing on that one issue (I abhor their politics but in this instance they are pointing out a problem). By doing this they are creating an impression that ONLY black lives matter. Whether that is purposeful or not, that is the impression they're creating. They would better serve themselves and the community by focusing on ALL wrongful deaths at the hands of the police.
 
Anon, instead of challenging my statements on the politics board, left this comment on five of my stories:

Anonymous7 minutes ago

racist fuckstain loozer ultra left radical cocksucker


If you can't argue with me here? You are a coward. The spelling, style, and the false statements are easily recognizable.

Anyone else had this?

Yep, it's coward like behavior. Low character stuff. I agree on the identification....we know who and why.

Racist make a case for black inferiority or worse, a socialist/Communist plot to take what "whites" (which just means they see someone taking their person wealth) have and redistribute it to black people.

I'll give you some concrete examples of this systemic thinking on a local level. I live in an all white neighborhood. It's expensive to live where I live...that keeps out diversity(racist don't understand how that is a systemic issue)....because, if anyone can just come up with the money then anyone can live here...simple Capitalism and freedom based on freedom if choice on what one can afford.

So, my neighbors all seem very nice, well to do, mostly white folks of various backgrounds. Any time a car is broken into...mostly when stuff is taken from unlocked vehicles because nobody locks their cars or houses(an example itself if white privilege) around here, it is always " the blacks" who did it.

So, I say to them....there are no blacks around here for miles. That is when I get the looks from them like I have horns on my head. They honesty believe it's black people coming to our neighborhood. Which almost never happens. All the folks caught for stealing from vehicles has turned out to be a neighbor's.kid.and friends.... every time!

When a black person does happen to wander into this neighborhood (except for Amazon drivers, the postman) the police are called and they are "stopped" and "questioned". It is glaring because of the infrequency of people of color being here and yet it is like the neighbors are all watching and waiting for that singular black person every year or so.

I have meet very few white folks over my entire life that don't have a bit of racism in them(this includes me...which I've worked on and continue to work on) and also the systemic stuff....they give public lip service to diversity and racism and then they go back to their cloistered, somewhat privileged lives and are super quick to turn on any person of color

We also suffer from periodic house break-ins...all of the guys who have been caught over the years have been white guys. I have yet to see the police called on any white person who "looks out of place" or " might be up to no good".

This is the foundations of systemic racism and it is pervasive through out the US.

Keep doing what your doing Ogg...rascist want folks to be like them and want to silence others, especially other whites, from speaking out on this because they know we have the ability to make change in govt policy and the law. Keep speaking out!
 
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I reported but didn't delete, all of them.

As for the statements:

racist? No. I condemn BLM and the Proud Boys etc for all violence in their name. While I recognise that black people are unfairly targeted by law enforcement, I also know that in the UK at least, certain parts of the BAME community commit more crimes than their proportion fo the population ought to suggest. BLM is no longer just about unfairly treated black people. It has gone too far in its declared objectives so I cannot support the movement.

Fuckstain? - just abuse.

Loozer? I would like to be looser but cannot be because of spine damage. Loser? No. The anon who posted these comments is that.

Ultra left? Again no. In UK terms I am right-wing and in my youth was a right-wing activist. Yes, I defend the UK's NHS but unlike left-leaning people, I see nothing wrong with the NHS working with the private health sector. I have private medical insurance that would provide treatment if the NHS had a waiting time. Why not? If I am treated privately that takes one off the waiting list. But left-leaning people would regard me as a traitor for that.

In US terms I would be on the left of the Republicans but NEVER Democrat. Trump versus Biden? I would have abstained or voted 'neither of the above',


Radical? No. conservative with a small 'c'.

Cocksucker? Again just a term of abuse. No man ever sucks a cock in any one of my stories, but some women do.

So, cowardly anon - you are wrong and just flailing around because you can't win an argument when the facts are against your lies.
Methinks you just might be reading too much meaning into that string of invectives.
 
Methinks you just might be reading too much meaning into that string of invectives.

Probably - but the comments mirror statements frequently made about me on the Politics Board.

They ascribe positions to me that I don't hold and keep repeating the lies.

As for BLM? It has become part of the problem, not the solution. There are campaigns that try to change cultural behaviors but they are very low-key compared with BLM. BLM seems to think everything is oppression when it isn't.
 
Nope, it was rapey or AJ. They have been pissed at ogg for not sucking trumps dick like they do.
 
knotsilent aka BB shows exactly why he could have posted the comments.
 
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