One way America really does lead the world.

It shouldn't. Money grubbing bastards :mad:

The scale of legitimacy goes from 0 to billions. Soup kitchens and sobriety programs are foundation blocks of some communities. Many of those are connected to churches.

The rich people deducting "gifts" to rich preachers is far from charity.
 
Does charity include the money gathered by the churches?

Good point. Probably.

That should only be included as it pertains to money distributed by churches. Some do a lot of good works. Others not so much. I wouldn't count money spent proselytizing. That's just marketing budget.
 
The scale of legitimacy goes from 0 to billions. Soup kitchens and sobriety programs are foundation blocks of some communities. Many of those are connected to churches.

The rich people deducting "gifts" to rich preachers is far from charity.
A church near me does a shitload of outreach, working with impoverished families, ensuring the elderly aren't lonely. Great stuff!

"God says I need a private jet to do his work!" shouldn't qualify as charity though. If that counts, the numbers are balls.
 
A church near me does a shitload of outreach, working with impoverished families, ensuring the elderly aren't lonely. Great stuff!

"God says I need a private jet to do his work!" shouldn't qualify as charity though. If that counts, the numbers are balls.

The returns on gifts to jesus are high! Give me your last dollar and you will get a billion back!!
 
We are a very charitable nation. Our motto is certainly not, "Better you than me!" Even those without means to monetary giving of alms are certainly more than willing to give their time, something which is probably not included in the overall calculus. I think that only those with antipathy towards religion and churches specifically charge the churches with taking and not giving. That is certainly not true here in the heartland of America; flyover country.
 
Heartland country is clean as a whistle!

Heartland country would be better served giving to their own communities rather than joel osteen.
 
I disagree. A closed mind would not question how much of the US charity actually benefitted those in need or if the numbers were influenced by the likes of jim baker.

No need to pat ourselves on our backs if the cash is buying private helicopters.
 
Churches must be losing tons of dollars. Been closed for 9 months now, with the exception of appointments.
 
I disagree. A closed mind would not question how much of the US charity actually benefitted those in need or if the numbers were influenced by the likes of jim baker.

No need to pat ourselves on our backs if the cash is buying private helicopters.

In the US, charity is a business.
 
China's ranking is as interesting as it is ominous.

If you're going to start ragging on the tele-ministries you better include the many "charitable/non-prof" organizations that are secular in nature. You can start with the Sierra Club.
 
Churches must be losing tons of dollars. Been closed for 9 months now, with the exception of appointments.

To too many, this is a positive outcome. They believe that secular charity is more "honest" and that government benefit is more efficacious.
 
Our local churches are supporting the food banks and meeting for services by Zoom.

The largest giver by the size of the congregation is the Mosque, just eclipsing the local C of E church by a few pounds a week each.

But if you are close to a Sikh temple, they will give a hot meal to anyone who drops in.
 
Our local churches are supporting the food banks and meeting for services by Zoom.

The largest giver by the size of the congregation is the Mosque, just eclipsing the local C of E church by a few pounds a week each.

But if you are close to a Sikh temple, they will give a hot meal to anyone who drops in.

The Mosque goes without saying. A 10% tithe is virtually mandatory. The Mormon church is the same. The Muslims and the Mormons pretty much take care of their own. The Sikh's are very different in that respect.
 
The Mosque goes without saying. A 10% tithe is virtually mandatory. The Mormon church is the same. The Muslims and the Mormons pretty much take care of their own. The Sikh's are very different in that respect.

Locally, with a couple of exceptions, ALL the faith communities take care of anyone whether co-religionists or not - including the Mosque.
 
Why is it that the Progressive mob which shouts the slogans and furls the banners of tolerance, diversity and inclusion draws the line at religious belief? The religious institutions that I have been surround by for all of my life are focused on good thoughts, good words, good deeds.
 
Locally, with a couple of exceptions, ALL the faith communities take care of anyone whether co-religionists or not - including the Mosque.

My statement was not intended to imply exclusivity, just that their own get preference. And to be quite frank, I find no fault with that. Otherwise those people too would be on the public dole.
 
Of the $428 billion Americans gave to charity in 2018, by far the biggest slice of the charitable giving pie—$125 billion or 29 percent—went to religion, according to the just-released Giving USA 2019: The Annual Report on Philanthropy for the Year 2018. Contributions to religion in 2018 represented the fourth highest inflation-adjusted amount of giving to religion recorded to date
https://www.ecfa.org/Content/Americ...-Religion-in-2018-29-of-All-Charitable-Giving

"enhansing trust in ministries"

I have no idea what that means.


Anyhoo, give until it hurts people. 2021 is going to be a bitch.
 
Oh look...a let's rag on Christians just in time for Christmas thread. :)
 
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