making some sense of what's been happening since Nov 3

LTMMC

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If the majority of posters here would refrain from panicky remarks, we could have a sensible discussion instead. I personally enjoy commentaries by John Cassidy a lot; he writes for The New Yorker. His latest article asks the question "Is a Trump-led coup to stay in power going on?" And he supplied an answer as well, given by a political scientist from Dartmouth: It is not a coup, but rather an erosion of democracy. And then he went on to say:

Democratic erosion isn’t something to be minimized or taken lightly. It refers to the gradual undermining of democratic norms and democratic institutions, which ultimately can prove fatal to democracy.

The way I see it, the exact same can be said about the whole Trump presidency. IMHO the country can consider itself very lucky for Trump being a person of such massive incompetency. If this fellow had possessed the diction and the intelligence of someone older than a fourth-grader, America would be in really deep shit now.

Not that the shit it is in can be ignored. For a country that had been an example for the whole world for a short while, say from the mid 1930s until the mid 1960s, and in many ways even 20 years longer, the deterioration that could be witnessed from the outside, since about Ronald Reagan and the Federalist Society beginning its coup on the Judiciary, has been nothing short of alarming.

With a dangerous clown ascending to the Presidency turning out the icing on the cake.

Unfortunately the mindsets of at least 70 million Americans have been affected also. And political norms and habits. Including more than 50 US Senators having turned into largely spineless puppets. And many government officials turning into criminals.

Re-Building all that into something resembling a democracy, will be a terribly difficult job. Quite possibly one that is impossible to carry out. Now after Ruppert Murdoch and Roger Ailes have done their horrible job leading to the poisoning of the minds of too many Americans.

My country is one that had been afflicted with the MAGA virus also, except it had a slightly different name then. And for us to get cured of it, we had to get the shit beaten out of us, by three or more enemies more powerful than us. With the country getting almost totally devastated after WW2.

I sincerely hope that the cure for the US of A will turn out a lot less drastic. But if not: China is waiting in the wings. In the end it is always societies rotting from the inside, which lose out to others less rotten.
 
"If the majority of posters here would refrain from panicky remarks, we could have a sensible discussion instead"

Seriously? You insult Trump and his voters yet you want others to refrain?

Typical hypocrite dimwit, that is the real problem with idiots like you.

Trump has done more to strengthen our country, economically, militarily, and morally (bring God back) than anyone.

Biden and the other dim chumps are for sale. Pretty obvious when you don't buy the msm bs.
 
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It will take quite a while to root out and mitigate Cult45's effects. The Evil it spawned has ingrained itself in every day life. Major changes in Government structure will be required, Term limits for one. Limitations of Executive powers and much greater oversight of Legislative and Judicial branches for another.

I do not expect it to get better in my lifetime.
 
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It will take quite a while to root out and mitigate Cult45's effects. The Evil it spawned has ingrained itself in every day life. Major changes in Government structure will be required, Term limits for one. Limitations of Executive powers and much greater oversight of Legislative and Judicial branches for another.

I don't not expect it to get better in my lifetime.

It will probably need a massive Republican loss in the 2024 election to make a start.

In the UK, the process is starting with the departure of Jeremy Corbyn as Labour leader. If the Labour Party continues to reform itself and get back to is the historic centrist stance it could be electable as a government with a reasonable set of policies.
 
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It will probably need a massive Republican loss in the 2024 election to make a start.

I don't see that happening and even if it does, it won't change the evilthink that has infested the common people.

I have a neighbor who thinks Pence and/or Ben Carson would be great choices. How do people fall so far as to think that way?
 
thank you jaF0 and oggbashan

Not a bad reaction I find to my OP. two sensible gentlemen wrote back and only one turd who cannot read.

Maybe America is on a positive path. Oh.,, I just noticed, one of you is from Europe. Anyway, I have some hope for the future, even though I understand your pessimism, jaF0
 
I don't see that happening and even if it does, it won't change the evilthink that has infested the common people.

I have a neighbor who thinks Pence and/or Ben Carson would be great choices. How do people fall so far as to think that way?

How about Johnny Depp and Tiger Woods? They seem to have the Republican attitude to women.

And Venus and Serena Williams for the Democrats...
 
How about Johnny Depp and Tiger Woods? They seem to have the Republican attitude to women.

I'm more concerned with the likes of the Duggars where the women feel their sole purpose in life is to pump out as many spawn as possible.
 
I believe the major reason Trump lost is that the electorate turned out an VOTED. Over 140 million of us voted in 2020. More than ever before.
This year was the first year that there was a clear reason for the unmotivated to vote, and they did.

Yet about 30% sluffed off and did not vote. Shame on them.
 
"If the majority of posters here would refrain from panicky remarks, we could have a sensible discussion instead"

Seriously? You insult Trump and his voters yet you want others to refrain?

Typical hypocrite dimwit, that is the real problem with idiots like you.

Trump has done more to strengthen our country, economically, militarily, and morally (bring God back) than anyone.

Biden and the other dim chumps are for sale. Pretty obvious when you don't buy the msm bs.

You sold out every so called republican or conservative value in support of Trump.

You have zero standing to call anyone a hypocrite or any names.
 
"If the majority of posters here would refrain from panicky remarks, we could have a sensible discussion instead"

Seriously? You insult Trump and his voters yet you want others to refrain?

Typical hypocrite dimwit, that is the real problem with idiots like you.

Trump has done more to strengthen our country, economically, militarily, and morally (bring God back) than anyone.

Biden and the other dim chumps are for sale. Pretty obvious when you don't buy the msm bs.
Bringing God back does not provide moral strength. Usually the opposite.
 
I believe the major reason Trump lost is that the electorate turned out an VOTED. Over 140 million of us voted in 2020. More than ever before.
This year was the first year that there was a clear reason for the unmotivated to vote, and they did.

I think that worked both ways. The Sane people were motivated to remove the Demon. But as the incessant polls showed it going against them, Cult45 became motivated to try and save their Messiah.

It should not have been as close as it was. It should have been a Regan-esque blowout in favor of the Blues. That it was not is quite disturbing.


Maybe the worst outcome was the Kowards of Kentucky that failed to vanquish their own Demon, Mitch.
 
What you have to do with trump is always look at his bottom line. It is ALL about the money for him. He is going to milk his Presidency for every penney he can. That means first off to stay at the top of the News (for free) good or bad. He is getting WAY more minutes on media platforms than Biden even as the obvious loser. It's the trump show as long as he can milk the media. He loves the media... it's free for him
trump learned long ago that law suits are his friend an he uses them to his advantage if for nothing else than stalling for time. Putting in Ringmaster Rudy Colludi to handle the collapse of his law suit show gives you a look as to how he is manipulating his future. Currently he is sucking in money to pay for this show from his base. All free for him. Next he will create TBS (trump broadcasting system) that will be run with donations... free for him.
I am pretty sure trump will want to say a few words at Biden's Inauguration... and make it's all about trump... free for him.



LL... why didn't you vote for trump ?
 
It will take quite a while to root out and mitigate Cult45's effects. The Evil it spawned has ingrained itself in every day life. Major changes in Government structure will be required, Term limits for one. Limitations of Executive powers and much greater oversight of Legislative and Judicial branches for another.

I do not expect it to get better in my lifetime.

Yes we know how much it upsets leftist that Trump inspired the American peoples thirst for FREEDOM....something you and yours openly loathe and detest. :)
 
What you have to do with trump is always look at his bottom line. It is ALL about the money for him. He is going to milk his Presidency for every penney he can. That means first off to stay at the top of the News (for free) good or bad. He is getting WAY more minutes on media platforms than Biden even as the obvious loser. It's the trump show as long as he can milk the media. He loves the media... it's free for him
trump learned long ago that law suits are his friend an he uses them to his advantage if for nothing else than stalling for time. Putting in Ringmaster Rudy Colludi to handle the collapse of his law suit show gives you a look as to how he is manipulating his future. Currently he is sucking in money to pay for this show from his base. All free for him. Next he will create TBS (trump broadcasting system) that will be run with donations... free for him.
I am pretty sure trump will want to say a few words at Biden's Inauguration... and make it's all about trump... free for him.



LL... why didn't you vote for trump ?

Just look at all the salt over freedom....LLcox can't fucking STAND that other people are allowed to do better than he is.

No leftist can, that's what makes them leftist. :D
 
why don't you start your thread?

When I take a look at what some people on this thread felt like posting, I wonder why you find it appropriate to hijack my thread for this? Which started out with some fairly simple messages?

Why can most of you not simply start your own thread, to discuss the inauguration or Trump's graft and coruption? Or anything else that comes to your mind?
 
When I take a look at what some people on this thread felt like posting, I wonder why you find it appropriate to hijack my thread for this? Which started out with some fairly simple messages?

Why can most of you not simply start your own thread, to discuss the inauguration or Trump's graft and coruption? Or anything else that comes to your mind?

Why don't you go reread your thread title. I'm making more sense of what's happened since Nov. 3rd than your rambling.
 
What the OP ignores is that President Trump considerably increased his overall vote. OK. Biden had more votes in a record turnout but the figures do not show a massive rejection of President Trump - just an increase for Biden more than the increase for Trump.

The problem that the article ignores is that too many people voted for President Trump. The divide in America is possibly unbridgeable for decades - if ever.
 
I am so very upset with my grandparents for voting Democrat this year! Neither of them would have done so if they were alive. :D
 
Wow! Smatterings of opinions and observations from a few perverts who project themselves on an obscure political forum, usually with leass than 100 followers who routinely make comments, on an international pornograpic website that has the principal purpose of publishing home grown erotica.

That's gonna give us some deep insights into the American psyche.

It seems to me that whichever of you accidentally happens to predict the USA's future the country is fucked. All that impeached president trump has done is picked the scab of a wound that has been festering for 250 years and has never healed and the country hasn't the strength or will any more to fight the infection.

And the rest of us get to see it go down in blazing glory on the best reality TV show there has ever been.
 
What the OP ignores is that President Trump considerably increased his overall vote. OK. Biden had more votes in a record turnout but the figures do not show a massive rejection of President Trump - just an increase for Biden more than the increase for Trump.

The problem that the article ignores is that too many people voted for President Trump. The divide in America is possibly unbridgeable for decades - if ever.



Perhaps you should read Dr. Epstein's senate hearing on how Google, big tech and other major media platforms can affect how people can be swayed. Just try to google an article with a positive spin towards Trump, you won't find them in the first 20 listings if any at all. And please don't be so childish as to post he has no positives.

Had the media been unbiased and reported fairly Trump would have won in a landslide.

The Laptop issues with Hunter biden, the evidence is real and yet the reporting was either censured, misrepresented or buried altogether. This behavior by main stream media has going on since 2016.

The real fight is for free speech along with a media that abides by the tenets of true journalism 1. truthfulness 2. accuracy 3. objectivity 4. impartiality 5. fairness 6. public accountability.
 
Wow! Smatterings of opinions and observations from a few perverts who project themselves on an obscure political forum, usually with leass than 100 followers who routinely make comments, on an international pornograpic website that has the principal purpose of publishing home grown erotica.

That's gonna give us some deep insights into the American psyche.

It seems to me that whichever of you accidentally happens to predict the USA's future the country is fucked. All that impeached president trump has done is picked the scab of a wound that has been festering for 250 years and has never healed and the country hasn't the strength or will any more to fight the infection.

And the rest of us get to see it go down in blazing glory on the best reality TV show there has ever been.

Speaking of scabs! how's ya been?
 
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