Litiquette VII

[SMNaughtywife]

I’m not sure if I’d consider myself an animal. A hungry insatiable li’l monster with a wicked smile at my worst.

I was in a domestic violence relationship before I was married, I defended (tried) myself but never hit back. Not that I was scared, okay- maybe a littlelot bit. My natural response was to block and then hide.
I’m not sure now if I could throw a punch or kick if I got into a tussle. I don’t even throw stuff when I’m mad at home. Nor does the thought of payback and the answer be physical retaliation enter into my mind. Just not wired that way.
Perhaps that’s where the flight or fight comes into play. I’m a flight kinda gal.

I don’t believe any sort of violence is justified. I can’t imagine the restraint one must have when crimes against minors are right in front of us, let alone are our own.

 

[tnman03]

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So my question is: If put in a situation, do you think you’re capable of physically violence? Is justified aggression really deserved in some cases?
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Yes, I can and I have. It's not something that I like or that I enjoy but I've been through some pretty thorough training and have instructed others.

And yes. unless someone is truly a pacifist in every way than fighting back or defending yourself is going to happen. It comes down to fight or flight.

I’m not sure if I’d consider myself an animal. A hungry insatiable li’l monster with a wicked smile at my worst.

I was in a domestic violence relationship before I was married, I defended (tried) myself but never hit back. Not that I was scared, okay- maybe a littlelot bit. My natural response was to block and then hide.
I’m not sure now if I could throw a punch or kick if I got into a tussle. I don’t even throw stuff when I’m mad at home. Nor does the thought of payback and the answer be physical retaliation enter into my mind. Just not wired that way.
Perhaps that’s where the flight or fight comes into play. I’m a flight kinda gal.

I don’t believe any sort of violence is justified. I can’t imagine the restraint one must have when crimes against minors are right in front of us, let alone are our own.

A lot of people get all wrapped up in thinking they need to take some kind of martial arts training to learn or know how to fight. Maybe so sometimes but honestly, just being able to keep someone off of you or to break away and run is a win in my book. I'd really suggest to any woman that they check with their local police or sheriffs department and see if they offer a Rape Aggression Defense RAD class. It's worth attending if for nothing else to be more informed.

 

[Orchidea73]

Yes, I can and I have. It's not something that I like or that I enjoy but I've been through some pretty thorough training and have instructed others.

And yes. unless someone is truly a pacifist in every way than fighting back or defending yourself is going to happen. It comes down to fight or flight.

Pacifist or not, If I am attacked (which I have been by a stranger and fighting back saved me), or any of my loved ones is, the hell I am going to fight, with every fiber of my being and until the last breath. Even kill if I'm left with no other option.

 

[tnman03]

Pacifist or not, If I am attacked (which I have been by a stranger and fighting back saved me), or any of my loved ones is, the hell I am going to fight, with every fiber of my being and until the last breath. Even kill if I'm left with no other option.

It's an individual choice. I've seen some of the most petite of women completely devistate someone who attacked them or their children without being aware of what they'd done.

 

[Orchidea73]

It's an individual choice. I've seen some of the most petite of women completely devistate someone who attacked them or their children without being aware of what they'd done.

The instinct of survival kicks in, I suppose. Some people are better at self-control and some can lash out easily. Martial arts actually does teach self-control as well. But you may find yourself in an extreme situation. In that case, all bets are off.

Granted, easier said than done, when you are not into that situation. But if history teaches us anything, is that humans are capable of anything. Great and beautiful things as well as horrible.

 

[SMNaughtywife]

^^^^
I agree with all that, and yes I would absolutely defend myself if being attacked.
That adrenaline rush kicking in.
But if my life wasn’t at risk, I’m still not sure- and I’m thinking of a fist fight or squabble of insignificance - being the first to throw a punch.

So maybe there’s a difference.

And yes, it’s easy to say what we’d do in a situation, but then a lot of women live with domestic violence and never leave.
It’s sad.

 

[Orchidea73]

But if my life wasn’t at risk, I’m still not sure- and I’m thinking of a fist fight or squabble of insignificance - being the first to throw a punch.

So maybe there’s a difference.

There is, I agree. And I am guilty of having done that. I throw my ex a punch in his face. Not my proudest moment but there you go. I have moments where I totally close off and leave, and some rare moment where I lash out.

And yes, it’s easy to say what we’d do in a situation, but then a lot of women live with domestic violence and never leave.
It’s sad.

I have a very close and dear person who was in that situation. She eventually left but it took her a lot. Some 10 years. I was frustrated because I couldn't understand. I still don't understand it now for that matter. I might get it if there are children involved or you are in a weak financial position with nowhere to go. But she had none of those problems. I remember being angry with her for not leaving, and still loving him. I might never understand it, but it taught me a bit about not judging too much. We really never know what goes on in another person's head. Their fears and their feelings. Hell, they might not know very well either.

 

[SMNaughtywife]

There is, I agree. And I am guilty of having done that. I throw my ex a punch in his face. Not my proudest moment but there you go. I have moments where I totally close off and leave, and some rare moment where I lash out.




I have a very close and dear person who was in that situation. She eventually left but it took her a lot. Some 10 years. I was frustrated because I couldn't understand. I still don't understand it now for that matter. I might get it if there are children involved or you are in a weak financial position with nowhere to go. But she had none of those problems. I remember being angry with her for not leaving, and still loving him. I might never understand it, but it taught me a bit about not judging too much. We really never know what goes on in another person's head. Their fears and their feelings. Hell, they might not know very well either.

The threat of bodily and emotional harm is powerful, traumatizing and has one thinking illogical -concocting all sorts of excuses why not to leave or seek help. Plus they are exceptionally crafty with their malice slander, isolation of their victims and pointing the blame on them.
I’m glad she got out and you were there for support and love while she healed.

 

[GiggLeGasm]

So my question is: If put in a situation, do you think you’re capable of physically violence? Is justified aggression really deserved in some cases?

If the question is simply asking about a textbook definition of physical violence, I would probably be able to protect my family, my community, or even my country.
It would break my heart and it would be something from which I would need to recover.
If we're asking if we think we could get pushed to violence as a chosen action plan despite other available options, I don't think I could choose violence.

 

[Dribble]

I have...and I will again if I view my child is in danger. I do not understand, nor do I want to associate with anyone that doesn't understand this.

 

[Endless_Night]

I’m on board with the people are animals therefore capable of violence crowd. A wide range of thresholds, certainly, but I’d be surprised if 99.99% of the population didn’t have a breaking point.

Justified? I don’t know, but I will say that I’ve seen more brutality and cruelty effected with verbal violence than physical.

 

[Wild_Honey_66]

PSA: Popping in to share a link. On average, it takes a victim SEVEN TIMES before they're able to leave their abuser and not return.

50 Obstacles To Leaving
https://www.thehotline.org/resources/50-obstacles-to-leaving/

(And yes, I'm capable of violence.)

 

[Dribble]

PSA: Popping in to share a link. On average, it takes a victim SEVEN TIMES before they're able to leave their abuser and not return.

50 Obstacles To Leaving
https://www.thehotline.org/resources/50-obstacles-to-leaving/

(And yes, I'm capable of violence.)

This makes me sad

 

[Wild_Honey_66]

This makes me sad

Me too. . It took me three times.

It's important for people to know how difficult it can be. And dangerous, sometimes.

 

[blulilacgrl]

So my question is: If put in a situation, do you think you’re capable of physically violence? Is justified aggression really deserved in some cases?

This isn't a do I think I'm capable of it thing. I know I am. I watched a guy bodyslam a friend of mine to the ground and they had to pull me off of him. I've had a man touch me repeatedly after me telling him to leave me alone and again someone had to pull me off of him.

Especially now as a mom. Someone touches my kid, I'm gonna get violent. And no I don't apologize or feel bad for any of it.

I will say that I am much more prone to violence on behalf of someone else. I will take a lot more before I lash out in my own defense but am I capable of violence? Yep.

 

[ChainedUp]

Wanders in, is it a guest appearance, an encore presentation, a can’t let go moment? Who’s to know, in any case....

There are those that run from the fire and those that run into the fire. The reaction is instinctual and I think really should go without value judgement. We don’t determine who we are at our core in the moment, we just act.

What are your heroic limits? Will you do battle with an armed gunman at a convenience store? Will you climb the tree to save a kitten? Or is self preservation your dominant trait? Is it driven by nurture or nature?

 

[Trekka]

Dude that’s a big ass question for a Friday.
And here I was gonna ask about cocks: length, girth, curve, etc.

 

[Orchidea73]

Dude that’s a big ass question for a Friday.
And here I was gonna ask about cocks: length, girth, curve, etc.

Girth.

 

[BongoGal]

And here I was gonna ask about cocks: length, girth, curve, etc.

I remember those things. They were fun.

 

[ChainedUp]

Did you really think I’d show up with some easy, low hanging balls type of question?

Dude that’s a big ass question for a Friday.
And here I was gonna ask about cocks: length, girth, curve, etc.

 

[Endless_Night]

Has anyone noticed this thread tends to veer off in certain ways?

< I will say that I am much more prone to violence on behalf of someone else. I will take a lot more before I lash out in my own defense but am I capable of violence? Yep.

This^. I’ve gone blind with rage a few times. Literally blind. As in can’t see and am not in control or aware of my actions for a few seconds, but it’s always been on behalf of someone else. Interesting phenomenon —

 

[Endless_Night]

— And ties in with Chained’s (who posted! ) question.

I’m more a a flight girl, though I absolutely will fight on behalf of someone else. If cornered myself, I’m not sure. Probably situation dependent.

 

[Endless_Night]

< I HAVE actually climbed a tree to save a kitten.

Color me impressed!!!


I am afraid of heights. Vertigo and all. I'd try to climb the tree, start to faint, then fall to the ground. Because I am just all cool like that.

 

[Orchidea73]

I like to think that when the shit goes down I'm capable of jumping in and taking care of business. I HAVE actually climbed a tree to save a kitten.

Is it really an heroic act climbing trees though?
I remember in my childhood that was a fun activity.

 

[Corbal]

Lol Well this was a HUUUUUGE tree, higher than a light pole. With not many stable branches. So, yeah, not one of the fun trees. Eventually we had to call my friend from the volunteer fire department to get a ladder. Poor kitty. We got him down, though.

Did you get on the ladder with the firefighter, or....? Lmfao