How to fix the issue of police killings of unarmed black people

[AlexBailey]

First, lets back off of the rhetoric about systemic racism and give the police the benefit of the doubt. After all, there are more good apples than bad in the barrel of blue.

Second, let's recognize that there is a problem that needs to be addressed. Police should not be killing unarmed civilians, period.


I suggest that the FBI make a special taskforce that will be trained to go into local police departments that have more than a certain threshold of complaints or killings, regardless of the outcomes of prosecutions. The FBI could send in teams to either supervise and retrain, or replace and train new management of troubled departments.

An official announcement of this program could be made as a warning to all police departments that if they don't manage themselves appropriately, they will be taken over and restructured by the FBI.

This will help immediately because the announcement will encourage problem departments to fix themselves before the FBI have even begun to train their taskforce. Problem officers will be reigned in within their own departments in order to avoid an FBI takeover.

There is precedence of the FBI getting involved in local policing problems over issues of race; see the 1964 Chaney, Goodman and Schwerner murder investigation in Mississippi.

All we need is an executive administration that gives a shit about the issue.

 

[icanhelp1]

First, lets back off of the rhetoric about systemic racism and give the police the benefit of the doubt. After all, there are more good apples than bad in the barrel of blue.

Second, let's recognize that there is a problem that needs to be addressed. Police should not be killing unarmed civilians, period.


I suggest that the FBI make a special taskforce that will be trained to go into local police departments that have more than a certain threshold of complaints or killings, regardless of the outcomes of prosecutions. The FBI could send in teams to either supervise and retrain, or replace and train new management of troubled departments.

An official announcement of this program could be made as a warning to all police departments that if they don't manage themselves appropriately, they will be taken over and restructured by the FBI.

This will help immediately because the announcement will encourage problem departments to fix themselves before the FBI have even begun to train their taskforce. Problem officers will be reigned in within their own departments in order to avoid an FBI takeover.

There is precedence of the FBI getting involved in local policing problems over issues of race; see the 1964 Chaney, Goodman and Schwerner murder investigation in Mississippi.

All we need is an executive administration that gives a shit about the issue.

Your premise that police should not be killing unarmed violent people is easy to tout for someone who’s never faced a person on drugs and outweighs you by 100lbs. You have to defend your weapon or maybe have it used against you. The correct answer is don’t resist arrest. Almost all escalations are a result of disobeying a lawful order or resisting arrest.

 

[AlexBailey]

Your premise that police should not be killing unarmed violent people is easy to tout for someone who’s never faced a person on drugs and outweighs you by 100lbs. You have to defend your weapon or maybe have it used against you. The correct answer is don’t resist arrest. Almost all escalations are a result of disobeying a lawful order or resisting arrest.

Oh, so glad you're on top of it. Your suggestion will fix everything. Do you even read the news stories about some of the incidents? George Floyd? Brianna Taylor? Oscar Grant? Amadou Diallo? Elijah McClain? Michael Brown? Akai Gurley? Eric Garner?

No? Move along, troll.

 

[FescueFan]

All we need is an executive administration that gives a shit about the issue.

Good reason to not vote for Democrats LOL

 

[FescueFan]

Oh, so glad you're on top of it. Your suggestion will fix everything. Do you even read the news stories about some of the incidents? George Floyd? Brianna Taylor? Oscar Grant? Amadou Diallo? Elijah McClain? Michael Brown? Akai Gurley? Eric Garner?

No? Move along, troll.

So you read anything about those cases outside of the "USA is the most racist horrible nation EVER!!!" leftist loonytoonz rags??

Didn't think so....move along, troll.

 

[AlexBailey]

Good reason to not vote for Democrats LOL

What has Trump done to quell the issue?

 

[AlexBailey]

So you read anything about those cases outside of the "USA is the most racist horrible nation EVER!!!" leftist loonytoonz rags??

Where did I say it's the worst?

You are actually putting trolling words in my mouth. Dude, go easy on yourself.

 

[MissMandy86]

So you read anything about those cases outside of the "USA is the most racist horrible nation EVER!!!" leftist loonytoonz rags??

Didn't think so....move along, troll.

They dont cover those kinds of stories where he goes for news

The shame is that FescueFan just stirs the pot for attention
Nobody is that crazy

 

[Lazaran]

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The U.S. has invested heavily in its militarized law enforcement infrastructure and neglected its social service infrastructure.

Creating conditions in the community that minimize police interactions should be the first action taken. Providing additional funds for social programs is the logical first step. If police interactions are reduced in the wake of better community services, then the reallocation of funds from law enforcement to even more community based programs can ensue.

Unfortunately, at the moment there is a pressing need for both law enforcement services and social services due to the status quo of gross wealth disparity, systemic racism, and bigotry fostered by a corrupt president and his republican enablers.

SAD!!!

 

[AlexBailey]

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The U.S. has invested heavily in its militarized law enforcement infrastructure and neglected its social service infrastructure.

Creating conditions in the community that minimize police interactions should be the first action taken. Providing additional funds for social programs is the logical first step. If police interactions are reduced in the wake of better community services, then the reallocation of funds from law enforcement to even more community based programs can ensue.

Unfortunately, at the moment there is a pressing need for both law enforcement services and social services due to the status quo of gross wealth disparity, systemic racism, and bigotry fostered by a corrupt president and his republican enablers.

SAD!!!

I largely agree, however policing and social services should not be an either/or issue. No matter what social infrastructure exists, the police still need to treat people in a way where your chances of surviving an interaction with them are not influenced by your skin color or culture.

 

[Lazaran]

I largely agree, however policing and social services should not be an either/or issue. No matter what social infrastructure exists, the police still need to treat people in a way where your chances of surviving an interaction with them are not influenced by your skin color or culture.

Yes, it isn't an either or, but more of a rebalancing. The only way I can see for changing outcomes at the moment is reducing police interactions. I wish it wasn't so, but reality indicates that color of skin and culture currently influences outcomes of police interactions.

I guess my theory is; "the best way to win a fight is to avoid it in the first place".