Come, or Cum which is most correct?

[Carnevil9]

Sometimes one must be flexible. Remember the man from Kent.

 

[jehoram]

Personally, I feel cum is more erotic. To read “I’m cumming.” is more erotic than, “I’m coming.”

Bit then there's "I was just cumming on to her face when..."* The character isn't orgasming on to her face, he's depositing ejaculate there. So "cum" is the proper verb here.

Which is why the usage of "cum" and "come" is such a briar patch.

I notice that in Literotica's spell check (which, oddly, doesn't include the word "Literotica"), "cum" is not flagged as a misspelling, whereas "cumming" is. I'd guess that it was grandfathered in under the "summa cum laude" clause.

*The conclusion of this sentence is left as an exercise for the reader.

 

[TarnishedPenny]

I think I'm probably Usual Suspect Number 2 on this point, with KeithD being Usual Suspect Number 1, and I'll just say I think he toasted your marshmallow.

If a drye mocke of a useful but arbitrary writing guide equates to recommending something the majority of the medical community warns may potentially cause serious illness or even death to those around you, well, I guess my marshmallow has been well and truly toasted.

I'll just drag my wounded pride over there and let it heal under the hedge of overreaction...

Peace, Simon.

 

[SimonDoom]

If a drye mocke of a useful but arbitrary writing guide equates to recommending something the majority of the medical community warns may potentially cause serious illness or even death to those around you, well, I guess my marshmallow has been well and truly toasted.

I'll just drag my wounded pride over there and let it heal under the hedge of overreaction...

Peace, Simon.

I realize tone is difficult to discern in an online post but I would hope it would be understood I was being highly sarcastic.

Peace to you, too.

 

[Athalia]

There's nothing strict about it.

I was joking, dear. Perhaps I should have put in a winky emoji or something.

 

[Athalia]

Bit then there's "I was just cumming on to her face when..."*


*The conclusion of this sentence is left as an exercise for the reader.

Okay, I'll bite:

"...the red phone on the desk began ringing."

 

[KeithD]

Hmm, wonder if it's realized that a red phone on a government desk would be the top secret encryption phone (which would make the sentence all that more interesting).

 

[ElectricBlue]

I was joking, dear. Perhaps I should have put in a winky emoji or something.

Words mean what words mean, what can I say? We've had plenty here who think there are absolute rules for this kind of thing .

 

[Bramblethorn]

There's nothing strict about it. "Come" has been around for a century or so (during the nineteenth century it was more often "spend", I think)

Much longer than that. In English, "come" for "orgasm" goes back at least to 1650: https://www.etymonline.com/word/cum

Per discussion here, many different languages use the same word for "arrive" and "orgasm". I knew the German one so I'd wondered if this was something that had developed before the languages diverged, but since it also shows up in languages that aren't closely related, I guess it's just one of those metaphors that naturally, er, comes to people.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Much longer than that. In English, "come" for "orgasm" goes back at least to 1650: https://www.etymonline.com/word/cum

Per discussion here, many different languages use the same word for "arrive" and "orgasm". I knew the German one so I'd wondered if this was something that had developed before the languages diverged, but since it also shows up in languages that aren't closely related, I guess it's just one of those metaphors that naturally, er, comes to people.

There you go, I didn't realise the usage went back that far. I wonder if the Victorian usage (spend) was an anomaly?

 

[Bramblethorn]

There you go, I didn't realise the usage went back that far. I wonder if the Victorian usage (spend) was an anomaly?

I think that one also goes quite a way back - this page says 16th century, though the example they give is 18th.

I presume it comes from "spent" meaning exhausted/depleted - a spent force, a spent arrow, "I'm spent", etc. etc.

Pick any given period, though, and I expect there'll have been a lot of different expressions to choose from. My favourite from Harris' List is "making the blind man weep".

 

[Neverlander]

Calling them titties places you in junior high.

And "boobies" puts you in preschool.

 

[jehoram]

Words mean what words mean, what can I say? We've had plenty here who think there are absolute rules for this kind of thing .

I think that when she said she broke the rule a thousand times, she telegraphed that she didn't mean to be taken seriously.

 

[Lorelei907]

And "boobies" puts you in preschool.

Yes.

 

[Neverlander]

Fluid grammar

I tend to call a spade a spade - ejaculate (noun and verb); the truth can be both clinical and - well - true. "Cum" makes me cringe at what always looks to me like an error in a 5th grade spelling test. One thing I can't abide - and won't, damn it! - is a porn actress who looks out at the viewer, who is presumably masturbating, and says, "Have you came yet?" Please! Respect the mother tongue even when wielding it in a most unmotherly way. Wait - must take that back a bit: I've seen vids with moms being unmotherly in exactly that way. Is nothing simply simple any more!?

 

[SimonDoom]

And "boobies" puts you in preschool.

You and I went to very, very different preschools! I'm quite sure I never heard that word used at that point.

 

[Athalia]

I think that when she said she broke the rule a thousand times, she telegraphed that she didn't mean to be taken seriously.

I counted it up yesterday and found that I had broken the rule exactly one thousand, three hundred and sixty-seven times.

Seriously!

NOT.

 

[KeithD]

Once again, there's no rule on this. I don't know why people hang on to this. The answer is that custom on this is evolving. (It's evolving toward using "cum" in the erotica sense because it distinguishes it from the standard usage.) Most erotica publishers use "cum" as noun and "come" as a verb. That said, I and others have voiced as loose an author-preferred use for Literotica as can exist--that you do what you like as long as you are internally consistent. What else do you people want from this? Do whichever you like and keep your nose out of what others like to do with it.

 

[mfan2112]

Personally, I try to stay away from the word. Throat yogurt is a good replacement if you're just having fun.

I am glad I went dairy free a few years back. (Medical reasons, I miss cheese...)

 

[Damoiselle]

I just hate the "cum" spelling a lot is all.

 

[nylonpunkie]

I was waiting for someone else to say this, but maybe it's just me...

I associate Come with feminine and Cum with masculine.

Cum has too many spunky spermy associations for me to use to describe our lovely womanly juices.

 

[SimonDoom]

Once again, there's no rule on this. I don't know why people hang on to this. The answer is that custom on this is evolving. (It's evolving toward using "cum" in the erotica sense because it distinguishes it from the standard usage.) Most erotica publishers use "cum" as noun and "come" as a verb. That said, I and others have voiced as loose an author-preferred use for Literotica as can exist--that you do what you like as long as you are internally consistent. What else do you people want from this? Do whichever you like and keep your nose out of what others like to do with it.

I think this is right in the sense that nobody should criticize another person's way of doing it. But I also think it's fine for people to ask if they don't have a strong opinion one way or another as an author and they want to know which way will be better received by readers or publishers.