One of the few things that could make me punch somebody out.

[Tryharder62]

I don't understand how anyone could hurt a dog or cat. I like animals so I get videos that come on Facebooks about dogs. Tonight this dog lived on a chain all year round for 12 years. The animal rescue went every month but the owner was providing shelter and water and food so they couldn't take him, but he received no love and had never been off that chain. So after 12 years they go and he is very sick. Then the owner decides to give him up. The vet said the dog wouldn't live long with the conditions it had. They made a bucket list of things to have him do to show him love in the little time he had left. It wasn't long.

I am in the mood to kick some butt....are you with me?

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[silver gurl]

I can’t watch (or read) anything that has to do with animal abuse. I keep scrolling

 

[rae121452]

i'm of the opinion that anyone who hurts animals (and especially dogs) or children should be executed without trial. i'll throw the fucking switch on the electric chair if no one else wants to. this whole subject is leading me into crazy bitch mode.

 

[Comshaw]

I don't understand how anyone could hurt a dog or cat. I like animals so I get videos that come on Facebooks about dogs. Tonight this dog lived on a chain all year round for 12 years. The animal rescue went every month but the owner was providing shelter and water and food so they couldn't take him, but he received no love and had never been off that chain. So after 12 years they go and he is very sick. Then the owner decides to give him up. The vet said the dog wouldn't live long with the conditions it had. They made a bucket list of things to have him do to show him love in the little time he had left. It wasn't long.

I am in the mood to kick some butt....are you with me?

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I love cats and dogs. I've had two Blue Heelers, one of which lived 10 years and the other 13. We also had two cats. One lived for 16 years, the other 19. We also had a horse that lived to the ripe old age of 42. I do love our animals and we take care of those that we adopt, but when you say "hurt" one, It depends. Let me explain:

We had neighbors who owned a few animals. One was a mule. They kept Ginger in a very small pasture that was more mud than anything else. They didn't feed her much at all. She was so hungry all the time that a dead cottonwood fell down into her pasture and over a year's time she ate almost all of it. SHe ate a fucking tree!

We called county animal control time after time but the neighbors were very good at talking thier way out of trouble and nothing was ever done. We began to sneak hay and grain over the fence to her. I'm sure the A-hole neighbors knew, but why should they complain about someone else feeding her and saving them money?

They finally got to a point where the property they owned was foreclosed on. They asked us if we wanted to take Ginger and if not they were going to kill her and send her carcass to the game farm. We took her. when we got her to our pasture she was so skinny you could see her ribs. Her tail was so matted with crap it was the size of a baseball bat and she couldn't even swing it to chase off flies. she had on a harness that had been on her for over 7 years.

Over the next year we worked on her trying to get close enough to get the harness off. My wife finally got her to a point where she would allow my wife to pet her and she wouldn't shy away.

One morning my brother in law came to feed the animals and found her dead in her stall. We assumed she died from ill health caused by the way she had been starved and treated. We called the game farm and they came to get her. As an aside that's a thing we do here when our horses die, we give them to the game farm to feed the big cats and bears.

Later that day the game farm called and told us she had died from a punctured lung caused by two broken ribs. At first we thought it was one of our horses may be kicking her, but after some detective work we didn't think that happened. My brother in law said that morning when he pulled into the yard the neighbor's two Weimaraner dogs, who normally were in a fenced area, were sitting in the yard. They had gotten out of their yard before and each time they would chase our horses.

That got us to looking around. In one corner of the pasture my brother in law had setup raised gardens. The sides were two feet high, made from two 2x12s. The garden was protected from the horses by an electric fence. The electric fence had been broken down and we found Ginger's hoof prints and dog tracks in the dirt of one of the raised gardens. Additionally we found Gingers hair on one corner of that garden. From that evidence we surmised the two dogs had chased her into the garden area and she fell down on the corner of the planks of the garden, breaking her ribs.

I said all that to say this: in this state it is legal to shoot a dog who is the process of depredation of livestock. If I had caught them chasing Ginger I would not have (nor would I now) hesitated to kill a dog chasing my horses or cattle.

So, would I hurt a dog? As I said, it depends.


Comshaw

 

[dolf]

Killing isn't the same as hurting, comshaw. There's lots of good reasons to kill an animal, and very few to hurt them.

 

[SissySalina]

Abuse of this nature is justification for an eye for an eye. Said person should be chained up for 12 years with the same treatment.

 

[oneblueye]

hey...

I take no pleasure in the killing of any creature especially the four legged kind but I will depending on the situation, (for food, for defense but --,) sport or fun??
No--, someone else deserves that bullet.

 

[SpeareChucker]

No. If animal control took no action,
then there was nothing actionable going on.
Yeah, I guess being on the chain is tough, but
dogs adjust, he had food, water and lived 12 years.

It sounds cruel by some metric, but by another standard...


Michael Vick wasn't his owner.

 

[domroger]

I don't understand how anyone could hurt a dog or cat. I like animals so I get videos that come on Facebooks about dogs. Tonight this dog lived on a chain all year round for 12 years. The animal rescue went every month but the owner was providing shelter and water and food so they couldn't take him, but he received no love and had never been off that chain. So after 12 years they go and he is very sick. Then the owner decides to give him up. The vet said the dog wouldn't live long with the conditions it had. They made a bucket list of things to have him do to show him love in the little time he had left. It wasn't long.

I am in the mood to kick some butt....are you with me?

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Of course .
If people do that to an animal they probably would do it to a human

 

[SpeareChucker]

Of course .
If people do that to an animal they probably would do it to a human

If you go over to a certain forum,
there are people here who would enjoy that...





... as long as they get the occasional "bone."

 

[Rainblow]

Unless you're vegan you're all a bunch of hypocrites.

 

[SpeareChucker]

No. If animal control took no action,
then there was nothing actionable going on.
Yeah, I guess being on the chain is tough, but
dogs adjust, he had food, water and lived 12 years.

It sounds cruel by some metric, but by another standard...


Michael Vick wasn't his owner.

Unless you're vegan you're all a bunch of hypocrites.

Don't paint with broad brush.

Practice pointillism...

 

[Rainblow]

Broad brush? Pffft. Can't handle the truth? You can't love one and eat another. Specieism is rampant in today's society.
Ffs there are only two white rhinos left in the world and they're both female aka essentially extinct.
If you eat meat you're not an animal lover you're a speciesist.

 

[dolf]

Unless you're vegan you're all a bunch of hypocrites.

People like you make me crave a burger. Normally, i keep animal products out of my diet for health reasons. Your post has inspired me to eat some cow. His tasty blood is the direct result of your pomposity.

You're welcome.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Broad brush? Pffft. Can't handle the truth? You can't love one and eat another. Specieism is rampant in today's society.
Ffs there are only two white rhinos left in the world and they're both female aka essentially extinct.
If you eat meat you're not an animal lover you're a speciesist.

They weren't eradicated for food.

So, that's not a good point.

If you want to expand the numbers of a species,
as ol' Ted Nugent tells us, "Put it on the menu."

To play off dolf, take cows, for example.
We kill and consume millions of them
and because of it, people keep
breeding them...

 

[dolf]

I'd add that the cattle around here gets a better standard of life, and a more humane death, than a lot of our elderly. The fields are full of fat bullocks frolicking with their chums, while sick pensioners cry out every time you move them and never feel the sun. Once you've seen someone take months to die from arse cancer, a few hours of slaughterhouse doesn't seem so bad.

Life is cruel. Death is cruel.

 

[Rainblow]

They weren't eradicated for food.

So, that's not a good point.

If you want to expand the numbers of a species,
as ol' Ted Nugent tells us, "Put it on the menu."

To play off dolf, take cows, for example.
We kill and consume millions of them
and because of it, people keep
breeding them...

Oh do fuck off with that tired argument.
Farm animals are artificially bred into existence by the billions and genetically manipulated to produce higher yields along with many debilitating health defects. They suffer from the moment they're born because of ailments and illness we built into them. Not breeding cows etc. into existence in the first place is the most compassionate thing we can do for them.
As to hunting endangered species? Animals aren't our entertainment.
Quoting Ted Nugent? Doesn't surprise me. Unfortunately Ted Nugent is pretty much retarded so who gives af what he says.

 

[SpeareChucker]

So, cogency is not your strong suit...

 

[YNow]

I love dogs, I have 4

I also have 4 buried in backyard, complete with headstones

OTOH, the OhPEE hates abuse

Yet would abuse a HUMAN


(but I agree with her, guy should be on a leash himself and left outside with food and water)

 

[ishtat]

I was brought up on a farm and frankly I do not love dogs or cats particularly, but I do respect them. I was taught at a pretty young age how to kill animals efficiently and with a minimum of pain or stress.

My major dislike is the people who 'love' their pets so much that they pay for expensive surgery to delay their pet's deaths from old age. For example, to my mind it is downright cruel to perform a hip replacement on an elderly dog or cat. In many cases it is the emotional interest of the owner rather than the well being of the animal which is taking priority. It is frequently better to take the necessary, albeit difficult decision to end the pet's life now, rather than see it struggle for perhaps a matter of months or at best a year or two.

 

[Rainblow]

I'd add that the cattle around here gets a better standard of life, and a more humane death, than a lot of our elderly. The fields are full of fat bullocks frolicking with their chums, while sick pensioners cry out every time you move them and never feel the sun. Once you've seen someone take months to die from arse cancer, a few hours of slaughterhouse doesn't seem so bad.

Life is cruel. Death is cruel.

You do know that cattle don't have the luxury of old age, right? They're killed between 0-4 years, their life expectancy under normal conditions is 20+. Basically slaughtering baby to youth aged cows.
Also hate to burst your bubble but those cows you see grazing in fields make up about 10% of the cow population the rest are on factory farms. They all end up in the slaughterhouse at very young ages and are brutally killed. Did you know cows cry before being killed? Tears just like us.

Honestly, I know how most of the board feels about vegans and I'm not going to teach old dogs new tricks. Sometimes I just can't help calling people out on their speciesism. I can be kind of a brat.Luckily the younger generations are more aware of the environmental, health and compassionate reasons for embracing plant based diets. So there is some hope. Besides vegans stay smoking hot well into their 70s. High levels of iron cause age related damage, including skin and muscle retention.

Dr Paul Timmers from the Usher Institute at the University of Edinburgh, said: "...high levels of iron in the blood reduces our healthy years of life, and keeping these levels in check could prevent age-related damage. We speculate that our findings on iron metabolism might also start to explain why very high levels of iron-rich red meat in the diet has been linked to age-related conditions such as heart disease."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/07/200716101548.htm

 

[Rainblow]

So, cogency is not your strong suit...

I'm more cogent than you.

 

[FataMorgana]

I'd happily hurt people who are cruel to animals.

 

[dolf]

You do know that cattle don't have the luxury of old age, right? They're killed between 0-4 years, their life expectancy under normal conditions is 20+. Basically slaughtering baby to youth aged cows.
Also hate to burst your bubble but those cows you see grazing in fields make up about 10% of the cow population the rest are on factory farms. They all end up in the slaughterhouse at very young ages and are brutally killed. Did you know cows cry before being killed? Tears just like us.

Honestly, I know how most of the board feels about vegans and I'm not going to teach old dogs new tricks. Sometimes I just can't help calling people out on their speciesism. I can be kind of a brat.Luckily the younger generations are more aware of the environmental, health and compassionate reasons for embracing plant based diets. So there is some hope. Besides vegans stay smoking hot well into their 70s. High levels of iron cause age related damage, including skin and muscle retention.

Dr Paul Timmers from the Usher Institute at the University of Edinburgh, said: "...high levels of iron in the blood reduces our healthy years of life, and keeping these levels in check could prevent age-related damage. We speculate that our findings on iron metabolism might also start to explain why very high levels of iron-rich red meat in the diet has been linked to age-related conditions such as heart disease."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/07/200716101548.htm

Your stats are incorrect for the uk.
And I know exactly where local meat from farm shops comes from.

Cattle have no perception of their own age. Death is death.

But... Yes, i think I'll add some bacon to that burger! Meat i wouldn't have eaten prior to your reply

 

[FataMorgana]

Fucking carry on, she'll be on black puddings by 4pm.