We are now the worlds newest Rogue State.
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HisArpy
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So, "officially", you're giving us the go ahead an fornicate to our heart's content?
Huh, I never considered that I needed your permission. Not that I particularly cared but it's nice to know that I no longer have that requirement hanging over my head.
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Next? The Treaty of Utrecht.
Wankers.
Wankers.
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you really do need to let that one go. Do we really need St Kitts?
Maybe they will dump the Geneva convention though, they have already repealed the royal marriages act of 1772, be a bloody papist on the throne soon.
We are rogue state with nuclear weapons though......
Only if you and the other Maoist throw a fit.
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I think Hobbit is Welsh, so he’s referring to Wales.
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It also covers Gibraltar.
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No we are not, we are a rogue state with the means of delivering US nuclear weapons if they give their permission. Think of it as being one step down from Israel.
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Yeah, the "we" of this got muddled up from the get go.
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good point, but we dont need that either.
we could just do it anyway we dont need permission
bunch of cunts lead by a lying bastard with no social conscience armed with nuclear weapons.
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FIRST, you need droids. Yes, those ARE the droids you're looking for.
Next you need a spaceship...
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By the terms of the OP, a state which flouts international treaty agreements.
The UK hasn't done that yet but a bill is before the UK parliament, which if passed, (and that is dubious given the annoyance in the Conservative party and House of Lords, so probably won't,) would slightly amend the agreement made with the EU about trade arrangements in the island of Ireland after 31st December.
How serious the UK government is? We don't know. It could just be a negotiating tactic but is annoying the EU negotiators considerably. The UK government is very irritated by the EU's immovable red lines especially about fishing and how the UK could fund companies with state money after 31st December. The UK has strictly complied with EU rules up to now when the French and Germans (and many other EU countries,) have not. The EU has been trying to make the current situation enforceable under international law when it doesn't enforce the rules on current members.
The current bill may just be the UK government saying in effect - you want us to comply with rules when you don't impose them on yourselves? Fuck off!
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most do - its a fucking joke.
Reasonable definition for sure.
Oh noes....the globalist lefty elite are NOT going to be happy about that.
How many international treaty agreements has Trump flouted since he took office?
I can name three right off the bat: 1) the Paris accords, 2) the peace treaty with Iran, 3) withdrawing from the World Health Organization- in a time of a global and deadly epidemic, no less.
If this doesnt make America a "Rogue State" by definition, than I don't know what does. It certainly doesnt make America "Great Again-" quite the opposite in fact. All three of these have caused hardship and international dischord- both at home and with America's place on the world stage.
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That's not strictly true Ogg. France and Germany have written into law the original EU directives. These directives have always been deliberately ambiguous so that states can apply their own interpretation. Only Britain has completely rewritten the directives removing all ambuity and making it far easier for the lawyers. A prime example of this is the Health and safety legislation. The directive was 22 pages long. When Britain rewrote it it became 250 pages long. The result is that we were the only country with the new industry of Health and safety consultants. Even then the legislation on it's own wouldn't have been a problem had our government not made No Win, No Fee legal. Most of the stupidity blamed on the legislation is actually brought about by the fear of being sued.
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It's got nothing to do with left or right, it's about whether a country can be trusted to do what they promised to do.
Less than a year ago our Prime Minister signed a deal declaring it momentous and a good deal for Britain. Now he wants to pass a law that will destroy that agreement and is almost certain to result in a hard border in Northern Ireland. The NI border was always the stumbling block and the agreed solution to that is what the PM wants to override. He had plenty of advice at the time and the problems he has identified to justify his actions were brought up at the time but he still signed the deal. Now he says that the good deal of last year is a bad deal today. The deal hasn't changed.
Now we are trying to do trade deals with people who will know that a deal with Britain isn't worth the paper it is written on.
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I was thinking specifically of Greece and Italy who LIED to join the Euro and have consistently failed to meet their financial obligations under EU rules and the EU's lack of accurate accounts for over a decade. The UK (and Germany and others) have been paying with no clarity about what we were paying for.
The French have consistently broken the rules about state assistance for industries - the rules they now expect us to sign up to in law, while they will still breach not just the spirit but the actual rules. A level playing field? The EU has NEVER been that.
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My deepest apologies for any embarrassment caused to any rogue rogue nation, state or individual caused by the inference that Britain is now a rogue state.
MORE LIKE A FUCKING BANANA REPUBLIC!
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-norfolk-54002195
RAF Marham: Victor jet at base entrance to be scrapped
MORE LIKE A FUCKING BANANA REPUBLIC!
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-norfolk-54002195
RAF Marham: Victor jet at base entrance to be scrapped
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Much like Britain, but when the toffs are getting arse fucked against their will by johnny foreigner, suddenly its all wrong?
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The EU fucks over the workers too. In Germany, the Gastarbeiter have been underpaid and denied rights given to Germans for decades. In France, the pieds noirs are denied access to jobs just because of where they are forced to live.
The reason so many EU citizens came to the UK was that, except for criminal enterprises practicing modern slavery, they were paid the same as UK citizens and had the same rights. For some of them, improved employment opportunities in their own country has meant they have left, but for a young Spaniard for example, there is work in the UK when young unemployment in Spain is still very high.
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