Spacing after periods.

[lovecraft68]

I've only ever done one space, figured it seemed right. Guess being a grammar dunce helped out this time. I was accidentally doing it right.

 

[Enchantment_of_Nyx]

Yes, seeing as how Lit. is going to publish with only one space after terminal punctuation and you now know that if you didn't realize it before, I think you both are exhibiting "let the little people clean up after me" attitudes with your responses. *shrug*

The little people? You realize Lit's HTML conversion is automated, right? The "little people" are a computer program. Even the formating is automatic now.

 

[KeithD]

Doesn't change the reflection of your demonstrated attitude about what you should do as an author, just one person/element in the process, one iota, in my estimation. Do as you like. Looking forward to you completing your first story at Literotica to go with all your discussion board posting.

It doesn't take more time or effort to put in one space rather than two. It takes less. And it's easily learned to provide correct copy at the beginning of the process--where the author renders it. Until it's mastered, it only takes a minute or two to "find and replace." Not doing so is a reflection of the author's attitude on who should be doing what in the process. I stand pat on "let the little people clean up after me" as the attitude of those who won't do their best to provide what they have been advised is clean copy during their phase of the process. An attitude of stubbornness and "it's all about me."

 

[lovecraft68]

The little people? You realize Lit's HTML conversion is automated, right? The "little people" are a computer program. Even the formating is automatic now.

Have they reached a point where you can put italics in as italics and it shows, or do we still have to use the <i> </i> tags?

If not, that's a change I'd like to see.

 

[Salacious_Scribe]

Have they reached a point where you can put italics in as italics and it shows, or do we still have to use the <i> </i> tags?

If not, that's a change I'd like to see.

Another site I post on has a rich text editor similar to what we have in the forum. So you can use formatting on teh stories. Including adding pictures and justified text. Makes the stories more visually interesting if you don't over do it.

 

[BelleCanzuto]

Have they reached a point where you can put italics in as italics and it shows, or do we still have to use the <i> </i> tags?

If not, that's a change I'd like to see.

If you write in Word (i know for sure, but I also think it applies to the other word processing programs) and upload the document, rather than copy/paste, italics and bolding (at least) come through fine without putting in the <i >,</ i>

 

[lovecraft68]

If you write in Word (i know for sure, but I also think it applies to the other word processing programs) and upload the document, rather than copy/paste, italics and bolding (at least) come through fine without putting in the <i >,</ i>

I've never submitted it in a doc. I'll try it next time, thank you.

 

[Haulover]

Yes, seeing as how Lit. is going to publish with only one space after terminal punctuation and you now know that if you didn't realize it before, I think you both are exhibiting "let the little people clean up after me" attitudes with your responses. *shrug*

You should have scrolled back to my previous messages. You didn't, but I'll ignore your puerile quip and explain it to you in more detail:

NO ONE is removing the double-spaces for Lit publication. This is done automatically.

All text viewed in a browser, is displayed by a standardized format called HTML - and HTML collapses white space.

In other words: Any double (or triple, or more) spaces that exist in the source text are automatically trimmed and onlya single space is displayed. This is in the HTML specification, and is true for any text shown via a browser. If people need to show more than one space on a browser for some reason, they would need to do it by inserting special characters.

As I explained in my previous post: Try posting any message with embedded double-spaces on this forum, - then view that message after it's been posted. Hey-presto - your double- or triple-spaces have been collapsed into single spaces.



I.e. - no "little people" are doing any work!

 

[KeithD]

I'm not surprised that you're ignoring my point. Don't bother with it. Your attitude is what it is.

 

[SimonDoom]

I.e. - no "little people" are doing any work!

Other than the little people inside the computer, you mean, right?

 

[lovecraft68]

I.e. - no "little people" are doing any work!

Wait, they laid off the elves? Will 2020 never end?

 

[Enchantment_of_Nyx]

If you write in Word (i know for sure, but I also think it applies to the other word processing programs) and upload the document, rather than copy/paste, italics and bolding (at least) come through fine without putting in the <i >,</ i>

I've never submitted it in a doc. I'll try it next time, thank you.

That's how I do it, too. I also submitted once with a note to Laurel asking her to let me know if it made it harder doing it that way, and suggested that I could submit with the HTML tags if it was.

It makes sense when you realize that you can just take the Word document, select "save as," and choose HTML. It'll save it as text with all the HTML tags already in it.

 

[Salacious_Scribe]

That's how I do it, too. I also submitted once with a note to Laurel asking her to let me know if it made it harder doing it that way, and suggested that I could submit with the HTML tags if it was.

It makes sense when you realize that you can just take the Word document, select "save as," and choose HTML. It'll save it as text with all the HTML tags already in it.

You can do that but word adds a shitload of HTML crap. I used word to edit a website template for a group I belonged to years ago. All I needed to do was a simple Find and replace to remove placeholders and put in the local chapters info/images.

I had a friend who does HTML for a living look it over for any mistakes I made and he stripped out about a third a page of code.

From Tech Republic

Microsoft Word does a great job as a word processor, but it's not very useful for creating HTML documents that you can quickly plug into a Web site. When you a Word document as HTML, Word adds page- formatting tags that can make the document very large. These page-formatting tags may also cause content management programs and Web sites to behave unexpectedly.

Microsoft added the special tags to Word's HTML with an eye toward backward compatibility. Microsoft wanted you to be able to save files in HTML complete with all of the tracking, comments, formatting, and other special Word features found in traditional DOC files. If you save a file in HTML and then reload it in Word, theoretically you don't loose anything at all.

Unfortunately, when you then move a standard Word-generated HTML file to a Web site, bad things can sometimes happen. Formatting tags included in the Word file can conflict with settings on a Web server, causing the document to display incorrectly. Additionally, a browser may misinterpret the tags and display the file incorrectly. The HTML file also contains versioning and authoring information that you may not want to have appearing on a Web site.

 

[Bramblethorn]

You can also use advanced search and replace in Word to add tags specifically for italics without adding all the others that you might get by saving to HTML:

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=75260560&postcount=15

 

[Enchantment_of_Nyx]

You can do that but word adds a shitload of HTML crap. I used word to edit a website template for a group I belonged to years ago. All I needed to do was a simple Find and replace to remove placeholders and put in the local chapters info/images.

I had a friend who does HTML for a living look it over for any mistakes I made and he stripped out about a third a page of code.

From Tech Republic

Microsoft Word does a great job as a word processor, but it's not very useful for creating HTML documents that you can quickly plug into a Web site. When you a Word document as HTML, Word adds page- formatting tags that can make the document very large. These page-formatting tags may also cause content management programs and Web sites to behave unexpectedly.

Microsoft added the special tags to Word's HTML with an eye toward backward compatibility. Microsoft wanted you to be able to save files in HTML complete with all of the tracking, comments, formatting, and other special Word features found in traditional DOC files. If you save a file in HTML and then reload it in Word, theoretically you don't loose anything at all.

Unfortunately, when you then move a standard Word-generated HTML file to a Web site, bad things can sometimes happen. Formatting tags included in the Word file can conflict with settings on a Web server, causing the document to display incorrectly. Additionally, a browser may misinterpret the tags and display the file incorrectly. The HTML file also contains versioning and authoring information that you may not want to have appearing on a Web site.

I didn't mean to suggest that this is how Laurel does it. I'm sure it's not. I was trying to say that this is a very easy thing for a program to do. When she uploads it, she is putting it into some kind of program that puts the document in conformity with the style she's set for that portion of the website. I imagine the same program that's doing the conversion is also eliminating all but the HTML tags except the style tags.

The point is that it's an automated process now.

 

[Kumquatqueen]

Getting back to spacing - when I first learned Word, in the days of Windows 3.1 and OS/2, and WordPerfect soon after, I was told that it didn't matter if you did one space or two at the end of sentences, as the software would produce the space it judged appropriate for that font. Are the people still doing double spaced saying it produces a different result from one space nowadays, or are you using fixed-width fonts to emulate an actual typewriter?

 

[Jada59]

Getting back to spacing - when I first learned Word, in the days of Windows 3.1 and OS/2, and WordPerfect soon after, I was told that it didn't matter if you did one space or two at the end of sentences, as the software would produce the space it judged appropriate for that font. Are the people still doing double spaced saying it produces a different result from one space nowadays, or are you using fixed-width fonts to emulate an actual typewriter?

I use the standard font for writing. The only time I use a different font is for making a sign or note for someone with larger lettering. In that case, it's usually just a few words and no periods.

Let me do a test here. One space on the first paragraph and two on the second. See if you notice a difference.

This is a test. It is only a test. You won't need a pencil and there are no grades. I repeat! This is only a test!

This is a test. It is only a rest. You won't need a pencil and there are no grades. I repeat! This is only a test!

ETA: Well, hot damn, buddy, buddy! No difference. it automatically corrected it. Yay!

 

[Enchantment_of_Nyx]

I use the standard font for writing. The only time I use a different font is for making a sign or note for someone with larger lettering. In that case, it's usually just a few words and no periods.

Let me do a test here. One space on the first paragraph and two on the second. See if you notice a difference.

This is a test. It is only a test. You won't need a pencil and there are no grades. I repeat! This is only a test!

This is a test. It is only a rest. You won't need a pencil and there are no grades. I repeat! This is only a test!

ETA: Well, hot damn, buddy, buddy! No difference. it automatically corrected it. Yay!

That's because it's HTML. It still looks like two spaces in a Word document.

 

[Enchantment_of_Nyx]

Getting back to spacing - when I first learned Word, in the days of Windows 3.1 and OS/2, and WordPerfect soon after, I was told that it didn't matter if you did one space or two at the end of sentences, as the software would produce the space it judged appropriate for that font. Are the people still doing double spaced saying it produces a different result from one space nowadays, or are you using fixed-width fonts to emulate an actual typewriter?

I'm not sure what they were talking about when they told you that. It's always been different as far as I know, from WordStar2000 to Word Perfect to Word. If you type two spaces, you get two spaces. If you're using full justification (both margins justified), it changes the spacing to do that, but it's still proportionately different. That's with standard fonts. The only person I know who uses fixed-width fonts is a cranky old geezer who would prefer to print on parchment paper, if that were an option. Monospaced Courier is the only font for him. He also does hard returns at the end of every line, just like he was using a typewriter.

 

[oggbashan]

I keep thinking that this thread is about the correct time to have intercourse after a woman's period to maximize the chance of starting a pregnancy.

 

[Kumquatqueen]

It's always been different as far as I know, from WordStar2000 to Word Perfect to Word. If you type two spaces, you get two spaces.

Just checked.to see if it was an Autocorrect option - apparently from April this year, Word will mark double spaces after sentences as an error: "Microsoft has made its typographical decree: Two spaces between sentences is too many.

The style choice will now be marked as an error in Microsoft Word -- and users who press the space bar twice after a period will be met with those dreaded blue squiggly lines. (CNN)"

It may be that the large employers I've worked for set it to conform to house style of one space after full stops etc. I've only noticed two spaces in the last 20 years in old documents on paper, which had other old-fashioned features like referring to staff as Mr or Miss and using full stops after Mr. and Mrs. and U.S.A.

 

[Jada59]

That's because it's HTML. It still looks like two spaces in a Word document.

Ah. I guess my only concern was how it would appear here.

 

[Enchantment_of_Nyx]

Ah. I guess my only concern was how it would appear here.

That's all that really counts when you're typing here.

 

[Jada59]

That's all that really counts when you're typing here.

Yep.

 

[Enchantment_of_Nyx]

Just checked.to see if it was an Autocorrect option - apparently from April this year, Word will mark double spaces after sentences as an error: "Microsoft has made its typographical decree: Two spaces between sentences is too many.

The style choice will now be marked as an error in Microsoft Word -- and users who press the space bar twice after a period will be met with those dreaded blue squiggly lines. (CNN)"

It may be that the large employers I've worked for set it to conform to house style of one space after full stops etc. I've only noticed two spaces in the last 20 years in old documents on paper, which had other old-fashioned features like referring to staff as Mr or Miss and using full stops after Mr. and Mrs. and U.S.A.

Yeah, Word did that recently. It's easy to turn off. Maybe the two-space thing is more prevalent in the U.S. If anyone cares to do so, you can set autocorrect to eliminate any double spaces as you type.

1. In Word, go to File.
2. Go down to Options (all the way at the bottom)
3. Choose Proofing (third one down)
4. (Click AutoCorrect Options (to the right)
5. At the bottom of the pop-up box, click Replace text as you type.
6. In the boxes below it, type in two spaces for the "Replace" box and one space in the "With" box.

Personally, I'm just more comfortable doing it after the fact, the way I mentioned earlier:

1. Press Control+H.
2. Enter two spaces in the "Find" box.
3. Enter one space in the "Replace" box.
4. Click "Replace All" to do them all at once, or click "Find Next" to do them one at a time.
5. Repeat to eliminate anything that was originally triple-spaced after periods.