Vaping increases your chances of catching CV19

[HisArpy]

At least in teens.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/v...y-to-catch-covid-19-study-2020-08-12?mod=bnbh


I mentioned to someone during the height of the pandemic if vaping might be part of the cause why some areas have higher body counts than others. Seems that it's possible.

 

[Trumpedo]

At least in teens.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/v...y-to-catch-covid-19-study-2020-08-12?mod=bnbh


I mentioned to someone during the height of the pandemic if vaping might be part of the cause why some areas have higher body counts than others. Seems that it's possible.

So you mentioned it yesterday? You guys are still at the height of the pandemic.

 

[DeluxAuto]

You mean smoking exacerbates the cause of a respitory disease? NO FUCKING WAY!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111

 

[Emerson40]

Can’t wait for when Captain Derpious finds out scientists discovered wearing masks can help minimize the spread of COVID-19.

If only someone had mentioned this during the height of a pandemic.

Maybe he’ll start a thread about how this might be why some areas, like the United States, have higher body counts.

 

[Conager]

Can’t wait for when Captain Derpious finds out scientists discovered wearing masks can help minimize the spread of COVID-19.

If only someone had mentioned this during the height of a pandemic.

Maybe he’ll start a thread about how this might be why some areas, like the United States, have higher body counts.

Citation required.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Citation required.

How about the World Health Organization reversing itself and recommending people wear masks way back on June 5th?

And if you're interested in exactly why the WHO changed their position, there's an excellent write-up that came out just today that goes into detail on the policy reversal on masks. Hint: moar scientific evidence!

I'm going to bookmark this post because your OCD seems pretty insistent on bringing the mask controversy up every two weeks or so. I'll just refer you to these two links, and you can pretend this is the first time you've ever heard of this!

#HeTriesSoooHard

 

[Emerson40]

Citation required.

When it comes to you, plague-rat #2, involuntary civil commitment is best required, to protect que from vacuous que.

 

[Conager]

Still can't point to the "science" that "everybody knows" I see.

Still doesn't know that rats were not the vector.

 

[surdeep]

Masks are anti-mute racism.

 

[silver gurl]

Still can't point to the "science" that "everybody knows" I see.

Still doesn't know that rats were not the vector.

1. mounting scientific research shows that widespread wearing of masks, along with practicing social distancing and frequent hand-washing, would greatly reduce community transmission of the virus. The effectiveness of masking was recently highlighted by a study that found two COVID-19-positive Missouri hair stylists did not pass the virus on to any of their 139 clients. The stylists and their clients wore masks.

2. In an editorial published today in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), CDC reviewed the latest science and affirms that cloth face coverings are a critical tool in the fight against COVID-19 that could reduce the spread of the disease, particularly when used universally within communities

3.Science News: Surgical masks may help prevent infected people from making others sick with seasonal viruses, including coronaviruses, according to new research that could help settle a fierce debate spanning clinical and cultural norms.

Should I go on and on and on...

 

[surdeep]

1. mounting scientific research shows that widespread wearing of masks, along with practicing social distancing and frequent hand-washing, would greatly reduce community transmission of the virus. The effectiveness of masking was recently highlighted by a study that found two COVID-19-positive Missouri hair stylists did not pass the virus on to any of their 139 clients. The stylists and their clients wore masks.

2. In an editorial published today in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), CDC reviewed the latest science and affirms that cloth face coverings are a critical tool in the fight against COVID-19 that could reduce the spread of the disease, particularly when used universally within communities

3.Science News: Surgical masks may help prevent infected people from making others sick with seasonal viruses, including coronaviruses, according to new research that could help settle a fierce debate spanning clinical and cultural norms.

Should I go on and on and on...

Looks like it's still very much up in the air.

But only to those who can read.

 

[SpeareChucker]

There are also studies on the adverse effects of constant mask-wearing...




:shrug:



We don't know what we don't know,
but we sure are sure about it!

 

[Conager]

1. mounting scientific research shows that widespread wearing of masks, along with practicing social distancing and frequent hand-washing, would greatly reduce community transmission of the virus. The effectiveness of masking was recently highlighted by a study that found two COVID-19-positive Missouri hair stylists did not pass the virus on to any of their 139 clients. The stylists and their clients wore masks.

2. In an editorial published today in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), CDC reviewed the latest science and affirms that cloth face coverings are a critical tool in the fight against COVID-19 that could reduce the spread of the disease, particularly when used universally within communities

3.Science News: Surgical masks may help prevent infected people from making others sick with seasonal viruses, including coronaviruses, according to new research that could help settle a fierce debate spanning clinical and cultural norms.

Should I go on and on and on...

The first is the same sort of retrospective observational study that the same bunch that says much bigger studies on hydroxycloroquine are not studies

Editorials that quote "experts" opining on the "couldn't hurt" and "may help" theory. None of them are study authors, none of them have studies underway, none of them are pointing to actual scientific studies on the efficacy of masks because it has been studied and it doesn't make any difference for obvious reasons. You can't stop bullets with chain link fences.

All of it is argumentem ad poplum, "Everybody knows" and argumentem ad verecundiam where the authorities being appealed to revert to argumentem ad poplum. We have "ecperts" citing the crowd. Fauci knows and was not 5alking out of his ass when he first opined on masks. His walk-back was weak.

The point of having these "experts" so opine is because it provides a fig leaf to cover the atrociously harmful lockdowns, gets people out of the house without admitting that it was all for naught, and it does no harm for short intervals now that we know all of the face touching people do with masks doesn't hurt anything since this virus, unlike, say colds, does not spread well on tables and doorknobs.

There have been no actual studies.

Scientists and doctors are well aware of masks what they do and what they don't do. Dealing with actual infectious diseases you wear a closed loop respiratory system. Not a surgical mask, certainly not a couple of layers of cloth.

If masks stopped viruses, we could have done that MONTHS ago.

We could have stopped it in its tracks by simply masking on all airline flights.

I'm going to laugh my ass off with the next pandemic or seasonal flu spreads throughout the world while people wear masks. Same lunacy when people harping on body counts from an AR-15 that can be outdone by the next guy with a basic handgun.

Masks were not some novel approach that no one rverbthought of before. You think cloth masks were just invented?

Replace "masks" above with "vitamin C," "wearing garlic," or "fervent orsyer" and it reads the same

 

[SpeareChucker]

If we all adopted mask wearing world-wide as the new normative...,




There would be an end to all disease.

 

[Conager]

If we all adopted mask wearing world-wide as the new normative...,




There would be an end to all disease.

That's the logical conclusion and it is ludicrous on its face.

Why did mask-wearing healthcare workers who have been actually trained in how to use them and follow correct protocols in using them get infected?

Why does my mask protect you better than, say doubling the layers of your mask?

How can they work when there are such poor practices employed by people who are wearing masks.

Why do we need "social distancing" if spittle cannot escape masks? (Masks do stop that, by the way)

How is diffusing potentially infectious droplets into a finer aerosolization which can then both linger in the air longer, and more effectively be inhaled through a mask be better than a little falling to the ground due to gravity?

If "experts" truly believe masks are significant in stopping infection, why are they not calling for the end of prisoner release?

If masks work, and prisoners are kept a known distance from each other in cells, where is the obvious study on how well masks are working in prisons?

Ditto in call centers and other similar cubical warrens. A study in the same building showed call center employees who work in teams vocalizing had higher infection rates than paperwork teams. Breathing matters.

If masks work, why any sort of lockdowns? Why plexiglass anywhere?

If masks work, why would we ever need a vaccine?

Why are we increasing testing while mandating masks. Why are tests still coming ba k 10% positive in mandatory masked societies?

 

[HisArpy]

1. mounting scientific research shows that widespread wearing of masks, along with practicing social distancing and frequent hand-washing, would greatly reduce community transmission of the virus. The effectiveness of masking was recently highlighted by a study that found two COVID-19-positive Missouri hair stylists did not pass the virus on to any of their 139 clients. The stylists and their clients wore masks.

2. In an editorial published today in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), CDC reviewed the latest science and affirms that cloth face coverings are a critical tool in the fight against COVID-19 that could reduce the spread of the disease, particularly when used universally within communities

3.Science News: Surgical masks may help prevent infected people from making others sick with seasonal viruses, including coronaviruses, according to new research that could help settle a fierce debate spanning clinical and cultural norms.

Should I go on and on and on...

No source citation, just your belief in the current group think.

Try reading THIS instead. It's long and boring but it's actually filled with links to the ACTUAL STUDIES THEMSELVES with the corresponding analysis. The inescapable conclusion from all those studies and research is:

Masks and respirators do not work

.


Read it. I dare you.

 

[surdeep]

http://www.thebullvine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Smoking-is-good-for-you.png

 

[Conager]

http://www.thebullvine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Smoking-is-good-for-you.png

I sure would like to see some data on complete autopsies a random sampling of 1000 "Covid19" fatalities.

It'd be nice to have a sense for a how many people were on death's door- whether they got Covid19 or not. How many deaths work completely misattributed to Covid?

How many were past or present smokers? What do the lungs look like on someone who succumbs to this disease which seems to be mild for most people?

 

[Aglaopheme]

I dared.

Transmission of acute respiratory infections occurs primarily by contact and droplet routes, and accordingly, the use of a surgical mask, eye protection, gown and gloves should be considered appropriate personal protective equipment when providing routine care for a patient with a transmissible acute respiratory infection.1–3

https://www.cmaj.ca/content/188/8/567

Face mask use in health care workers has not been demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds. A larger study is needed to definitively establish noninferiority of no mask use.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19216002/

There is some evidence to support the wearing of masks or respirators during illness to protect others, and public health emphasis on mask wearing during illness may help to reduce influenza virus transmission.

Wow, you wear masks for others.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...atic- review/64D368496EBDE0AFCC6639CCC9D8BC05

http://forum.literotica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2102060&stc=1&d=1597327635

There is more results from studies in that article that show hand sanitizers and masks work.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.1750-2659.2011.00307.x

I could go on, but I won’t.

 

[Conager]

No source citation, just your belief in the current group think.

Try reading THIS instead. It's long and boring but it's actually filled with links to the ACTUAL STUDIES THEMSELVES with the corresponding analysis. The inescapable conclusion from all those studies and research is:

.


Read it. I dare you.

Reminds of all of the global warming alarmist articles. Lots of "experts" with studies assuming facts not in evidence. Sone guy studies squirrels. He knows, like everybody knows, that anthropogenic catastrophic climate change is real extrapolates his conclusions on lowered fertility rates or survival of litters or whatever is that in (insert timeline for the latest nonsense every one knows) there will be no squirrels unless (insert proposed draconian actions to be taken)

Nevermind that hey trend line does not make any particular future certain, there are multiple variables not even being considered, and he's assuming that the fertility rate is directly related to temperature because he seen a correlation in that area. He doesn't have the mechanism but the correlation alone means that he's somehow proved something. The guy knows as much about say water vapor in the atmosphere as Frodo does but yet he throws global warming into his study because it gets a headline about climate change when he studying damned squirrels.

 

[HisArpy]

I dared.

Good.

Please link to the studies that prove that wearing a mask "by itself" PREVENTS you from CATCHING the bug.

 

[Conager]

I dared.



https://www.cmaj.ca/content/188/8/567



https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19216002/


Wow, you wear masks for others.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...atic- review/64D368496EBDE0AFCC6639CCC9D8BC05

http://forum.literotica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2102060&stc=1&d=1597327635

There is more results from studies in that article that show hand sanitizers and masks work.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.1750-2659.2011.00307.x

I could go on, but I won’t.

You completely missed all of the caveats that show that wearing a mask to Kroger's does nothing.


the use of a surgical mask, eye protection, gown and gloves should be considered appropriate personal protective equipment when providing routine care for a patient with a transmissible acute respiratory infection.

Face mask use in health care workers has not been demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds. A larger study is needed to definitively establish noninferiority of no mask use.


There is some evidence <where??> to support the wearing of masks or respirators during illness to protect others, and public health emphasis on mask wearing during illness may help to reduce influenza virus transmission.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Good.

Please link to the studies that prove that wearing a mask "by itself" PREVENTS you from CATCHING the bug.

You already have. Thanks!

You completely missed all of the caveats that show that wearing a mask to Kroger's does nothing.


the use of a surgical mask, eye protection, gown and gloves should be considered appropriate personal protective equipment when providing routine care for a patient with a transmissible acute respiratory infection.

Face mask use in health care workers has not been demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds. A larger study is needed to definitively establish noninferiority of no mask use.


There is some evidence <where??> to support the wearing of masks or respirators during illness to protect others, and public health emphasis on mask wearing during illness may help to reduce influenza virus transmission.

One person in the study with a mask caught and cold and one person not wearing a mask also caught a cold. Do you think healthcare workers years ago were wearing masks all the time, or even just around people that had colds? I don’t.

As for the rest of it, it’s all buried there in Harpy’s link. Happy hunting.

 

[schism666]

q covid trolling is a few steps below his concern trolling.

 

[Trumpedo]

Anti maskers are morons.

Why do surgeons wear masks if they don't work and are so harmful?

It's such a minor inconvenience yet such a big deal for small minds.

I laugh whenever anti maskers get the covid.