Is it a lowering of standards? Will it protect an individual's right to break the law? My city eliminated 15 possible causes for the police to pull you over (they didn't say what the causes were). They also give you 14 days to correct a "fix it ticket". I'm sure that will work out fine. It seems like the city is opening themselves to liability. I mean if someone is stopped for a safety violation that subsequently results in an injury accident to a third party, that third party is gonna lawyer up and cash in. Bail reform has resulted in criminals going right back to their law breaking and taunting police. When the drug dealers were busted, they were right back at it in a couple of hours. They put a sign up on their drug house "Under New Management". Poor people in that neighborhood deal with needles on their lawn and ODs in their street. Is this what social justice is going to look like. Every reform hurts people who believe in following the law and respecting their fellow citizens.
What Will "Social Justice" Look Like?
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Rightguide
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Liberals are genetically wired for failure. They threaten the future of civilization.
They're really work-averse.
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That is exactly what social justice is.
Empty the jails, clear out the cells
make room for the people who
disagree with these policies.
Those people are victims and anyone who doesn't
recognize this is a member of the oppressor class
(oppressor class = white supremacists
and the knuckled-under Uncle Toms)
The next step to healing our society/culture
is to redistribute the wealth more fairly
taking race, sexual orientation, etc.,
into consideration because of the
systemic oppression in the USA.
If you just listen to them, you'll hear their message loud and clear...
Empty the jails, clear out the cells
make room for the people who
disagree with these policies.
Those people are victims and anyone who doesn't
recognize this is a member of the oppressor class
(oppressor class = white supremacists
and the knuckled-under Uncle Toms)
The next step to healing our society/culture
is to redistribute the wealth more fairly
taking race, sexual orientation, etc.,
into consideration because of the
systemic oppression in the USA.
If you just listen to them, you'll hear their message loud and clear...
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A lot of those mugshots are going to be white females
which is probably a lot closer to the real reason
since it shows the offended to be
virtue signallers.
which is probably a lot closer to the real reason
since it shows the offended to be
virtue signallers.
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That's your answer to everything...
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The belief that everything was completely equal in society, and then social justice warriors showed up to advocate for leniency for their favored causes is ... sure something.
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Nobody is afraid of change. Why would you even think that if you could explain why this "change" is a good thing. The meaningless, virtue signaling baby steps that change nothing don't seem real positive to me. Do they seem positive to you? Is cash bail reform a good idea? Appearance ticket for "minor" offenses? Hiding the identity of arrested persons like they do Red China?
Social justice will look a lot like the justice wealthy white people have been getting since the country's founding.
The best way to facilitate that happening would be to address wealth disparity, and the disparity in quality legal representation and adjudicated outcomes.
Instead of having high powered law firms on call for the wealthy to buy "justice", attorneys should be assigned via random assignment. If a lawyer has too many mistrials due to ineffective counsel, the lawyer should be disbarred. The myth of access to equal justice under the law was debunked a long time ago.
The best way to facilitate that happening would be to address wealth disparity, and the disparity in quality legal representation and adjudicated outcomes.
Instead of having high powered law firms on call for the wealthy to buy "justice", attorneys should be assigned via random assignment. If a lawyer has too many mistrials due to ineffective counsel, the lawyer should be disbarred. The myth of access to equal justice under the law was debunked a long time ago.
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It'll look like Communism, that's what.
So they are protesting for nothing then?
Everyone has the same regular justice.
Yea....accurate.
Already been done.
LOL it always comes to that wealth redistribution.
Communism will make racism go away!! Hurrrrrr!!
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A jury of one’s peers? Yep, that’s Communism.
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I hate to disagree, but for the most part, people are very averse to change.
In many instances, they will go along with tyranny and oppression
as long as it is a constant that they can rely on and
calculate/navigate around just to live...
As far as, "Are those good ideas?"
I really don't think so, but if another community really believes they are
I am more than willing to let them institute them and observe the unintended consequences.
The optimal learning opportunities are often best not prevented.
You cannot sway True Believers - all you can do
is get the hell out of their way and
take protective measures.
A hard working poor.person going to her second shift, after a long week of work and normal difficult life stuff, runs a red light. She's tired from raising kids and working all the time and yes, she ran a red light so that's not good. She gets pulled over by a cop who gives her a ticket and a summons to appear in court.
Well, she can't afford the ticket and she can't afford the time off to appear in court and her boss is not forgiving or considerate for matters like this so she isn't even going to tell him. What will she do? Taking the time off could end her job which she really needs. So, she skips the summons and doesn't pay the ticket.
This is all to common a scenario for working poor folks who end up having fines and penalties added on to minor ticketed violations or non- violent crimes. Many end up having arrest warrant issued and many can't afford bail money. A simple traffic moving violation can end a persons job if they can't pay or appear in court due to their circumstances and this in many cases results in the loss of a job and future jobs if person serves jail time.
Ending the above situation, by lower or eliminating fines, penalties, jail time for minor offenses is an attempt to keep people working and stable. This is one example of what social justice is supposed to look like and I can think of many more.
Well, she can't afford the ticket and she can't afford the time off to appear in court and her boss is not forgiving or considerate for matters like this so she isn't even going to tell him. What will she do? Taking the time off could end her job which she really needs. So, she skips the summons and doesn't pay the ticket.
This is all to common a scenario for working poor folks who end up having fines and penalties added on to minor ticketed violations or non- violent crimes. Many end up having arrest warrant issued and many can't afford bail money. A simple traffic moving violation can end a persons job if they can't pay or appear in court due to their circumstances and this in many cases results in the loss of a job and future jobs if person serves jail time.
Ending the above situation, by lower or eliminating fines, penalties, jail time for minor offenses is an attempt to keep people working and stable. This is one example of what social justice is supposed to look like and I can think of many more.
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Uh, no, it's not.
It is a contrived situation to poorly make a point.
I've been working poor in my life and you pay close attention
to the laws since you know the slightest infraction will be devastating to you..
It is a contrived situation to poorly make a point.
I've been working poor in my life and you pay close attention
to the laws since you know the slightest infraction will be devastating to you..
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PS - What a great country this is when the poor own cars and have air-conditioners...
