Police reform? Not in Minnesota

[Counselor706]

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — A special session of the Minnesota Legislature appeared to be in a stalemate Friday with both parties deeply divided on how far lawmakers should go toward remaking policing in the state where George Floyd was killed.

The Democratic-controlled House early Friday passed an extensive package of police accountability measures wrapped into one bill. It includes elements of five more modest policing bills that the Republican-controlled Senate passed earlier in the week but would make bigger changes than what Senate Republicans have said they’ll accept.

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[Saint_Ann]

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[MNGuy]

My friend who runs a big box retail store had a couple get loud and threatening in his store two nights ago. They got a refund earlier in the evening, and left without taking back their original receipt, even though the clerk tried to hand it to them. Per policy, after ten minutes, the clerk ripped it up. Then they came back about a half an hour later and wanted the receipt. But became irate when they were given the receipt torn in half. They wanted them to 'un-rip the receipt.'

They called the police, because the couple would not leave. They were shouting they were being profiled because they were black. Threatening to come over the counter and punch the manager. The cops showed up, my friend told them they had been trespassed and he wanted them out of the store.

The police officers were timid, they refused to kick the two out, refused to enforce a trespass notice, and basically told my friend he was on his own. They told him couldn't he just give them what they wanted. (An un-ripped receipt?) Out of desperation my friend asked them what it would take to get them to leave. It took giving them a $100 out of the till. Basically a robbery by intimidation, while the cops just stood there.

That's what' coming.

 

[Klinkster]

Last one out of Minneapolis......please turn off the lights.

Baltimore II.
Read the book, and don’t wait for the movie!

 

[MNGuy]

In Saint Paul, you don't call the police for property crimes, you enter them into the form on the city's website. The 911 dispatcher flat out told my friend they will not respond to a call for a property crime. Shoplifting is through the roof.

 

[Rightguide]

It's claimed that Colorado just removed qualified immunity for police officers. That is not what it has done, because it can't. It did create a cause of action for citizens who's rights have been violated under Colorado's state Constitution. The general immunity established by the SCOTUS remain in place for suits filed in Federal Court.

 

[SpeareChucker]

...

That's what' coming.

Weaponized #BLM



Sharpton and Jackson to sue over copyright infringement.

Sharpton to attack Jackson over his Racist name.

Hilarity to ensue...

 

[Em_1]

Minnesota should pack their bags and join Canada. They even sound like us. Much better, much calmer.

 

[FlowersForFun]

My friend who runs a big box retail store had a couple get loud and threatening in his store two nights ago. They got a refund earlier in the evening, and left without taking back their original receipt, even though the clerk tried to hand it to them. Per policy, after ten minutes, the clerk ripped it up. Then they came back about a half an hour later and wanted the receipt. But became irate when they were given the receipt torn in half. They wanted them to 'un-rip the receipt.'

They called the police, because the couple would not leave. They were shouting they were being profiled because they were black. Threatening to come over the counter and punch the manager. The cops showed up, my friend told them they had been trespassed and he wanted them out of the store.

The police officers were timid, they refused to kick the two out, refused to enforce a trespass notice, and basically told my friend he was on his own. They told him couldn't he just give them what they wanted. (An un-ripped receipt?) Out of desperation my friend asked them what it would take to get them to leave. It took giving them a $100 out of the till. Basically a robbery by intimidation, while the cops just stood there.

That's what' coming.

SO MUCH PROGRESS!!!

 

[Rightguide]

My friend who runs a big box retail store had a couple get loud and threatening in his store two nights ago. They got a refund earlier in the evening, and left without taking back their original receipt, even though the clerk tried to hand it to them. Per policy, after ten minutes, the clerk ripped it up. Then they came back about a half an hour later and wanted the receipt. But became irate when they were given the receipt torn in half. They wanted them to 'un-rip the receipt.'

They called the police, because the couple would not leave. They were shouting they were being profiled because they were black. Threatening to come over the counter and punch the manager. The cops showed up, my friend told them they had been trespassed and he wanted them out of the store.

The police officers were timid, they refused to kick the two out, refused to enforce a trespass notice, and basically told my friend he was on his own. They told him couldn't he just give them what they wanted. (An un-ripped receipt?) Out of desperation my friend asked them what it would take to get them to leave. It took giving them a $100 out of the till. Basically a robbery by intimidation, while the cops just stood there.

That's what' coming.

What's coming will be far worse when citizens and businesses figure out they have to be their own police force when civil police forces have been emasculated and paralyzed to the point of inaction. People have a right to law and order, even if it comes by way of wholesale slaughter through civil war.

Businesses that do not do what it takes to protect their premises, their customers, and employees, from unruly people who threaten violence don't deserve to stay in business, and will probably be driven out of business, wherever they surrender their property rights to the mob. The mob needs to be physically confined to the areas they destroy and forced to undertake a harsh lesson in the scarcity they create.

Though having never entered one of the establishments, I used to be a supporter of Chick-fil-A for their principled stands in the past. However, after seeing their CEO this morning on a TV talk show, walk over to a black guest rapper on the same show and get down on his knees with a shoe brush and shine his shoes as a form of contrition for the slavery of the past. I know now I will never be walking into one of his establishments in the future. He's actually handed these shoe brushes out to his employees so that they can do the same when black customers enter his stores.

If this kind of collective humiliation is the "solution" of the day in order to regain so called "civility" in our society, who knows what it will be tomorrow, because it won't be enough, and their will be a tomorrow, we're all going to find out what hell really looks like. Because like me, there are millions of Americans in this country who are not going to kneel, not going to wash anyone's feet, not going to shine shoes, not going to beg forgiveness for the sins of somebody else's ancestors. We're going to collectively say, "FUCK THAT" and ask a simple question as we calmly contemplate our 2A rights, what are you going to do about it?

So, the snowflakes and the rest of the masked pussies in American social justice left can chew on that one for a while, or just simply buckle up and bring it.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Minnesota should pack their bags and join Canada. They even sound like us. Much better, much calmer.

50% of my relatives are in Minnesota, the other 50% are in Connecticut. All were born in Canada, the ones in Connecticut would rather be here.... up until recently the Minnesotans were cool being there, but that has changed....

 

[MassiveGiantBrain]

Global problem

Last one out of Minneapolis......please turn off the lights.

Baltimore II.
Read the book, and don’t wait for the movie!

It would be nice if this crap was isolated to MN. Tragically it is a global problem. I wonder what percentage of people are wise enough or brave enough to face the truth about the direction that human civilization is headed.

 

[Em_1]

50% of my relatives are in Minnesota, the other 50% are in Connecticut. All were born in Canada, the ones in Connecticut would rather be here.... up until recently the Minnesotans were cool being there, but that has changed....

Minnesota is pretty much giving Manitoba and Ontario the proverbial wedgie, and a fraction of the state is actually in Canada. They could set up a state wide CHOP and as an autonomous country secede to Canada. I'll take Colorado, too, they seem pretty chill.

 

[Ziggins]

MPD uses drones to spy on topless and nude at beach. That may lead to some reform if toplessness is legalized.

 

[hogjack]

Minneapolis has a good plan. Hopefully they go forward with it.

Fuck the rest of the state.

 

[bellisarius]

It would be nice if this crap was isolated to MN. Tragically it is a global problem. I wonder what percentage of people are wise enough or brave enough to face the truth about the direction that human civilization is headed.

IMHO the planet is over populated by approx. 4 billion +/-. And that's the way it's going.

 

[hogjack]

IMHO the planet is over populated by approx. 4 billion +/-. And that's the way it's going.

So, the cull has begun.

Eh, I didn't know all 4 billion anyway...

 

[bellisarius]

So, the cull has begun.

Eh, I didn't know all 4 billion anyway...

Can't count on comets anymore.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

My friend who runs a big box retail store had a couple get loud and threatening in his store two nights ago. They got a refund earlier in the evening, and left without taking back their original receipt, even though the clerk tried to hand it to them. Per policy, after ten minutes, the clerk ripped it up. Then they came back about a half an hour later and wanted the receipt. But became irate when they were given the receipt torn in half. They wanted them to 'un-rip the receipt.'

They called the police, because the couple would not leave. They were shouting they were being profiled because they were black. Threatening to come over the counter and punch the manager. The cops showed up, my friend told them they had been trespassed and he wanted them out of the store.

The police officers were timid, they refused to kick the two out, refused to enforce a trespass notice, and basically told my friend he was on his own. They told him couldn't he just give them what they wanted. (An un-ripped receipt?) Out of desperation my friend asked them what it would take to get them to leave. It took giving them a $100 out of the till. Basically a robbery by intimidation, while the cops just stood there.

That's what' coming.

Wait, why didn't your friend just print a new receipt?

 

[phrodeau]

Wait, why didn't your friend just print a new receipt?

Here in Minnesota is a company that manufactures a very useful product. It’s a transparent, flexible plastic ribbon with adhesive on one side. Perfect for repairing a ripped receipt. They call it Scotch Tape.

 

[WillJ8787]

Wait, why didn't your friend just print a new receipt?

Yup, something wrong with this story. I love it how one story, which doesn't sound right, becomes how it will be everywhere.

This is called "magical thinking" and it is a clinical term.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Yup, something wrong with this story. I love it how one story, which doesn't sound right, becomes how it will be everywhere.

This is called "magical thinking" and it is a clinical term.

And the magical part is that his friend stole $100 dollars and that's somehow ok.

 

[MNGuy]

Wait, why didn't your friend just print a new receipt?

Here in Minnesota is a company that manufactures a very useful product. It’s a transparent, flexible plastic ribbon with adhesive on one side. Perfect for repairing a ripped receipt. They call it Scotch Tape.

The original receipt was not from his store, he couldn't reprint the receipt.

As for taping the receipt, he said they offered to do that, but they didn't want that, they wanted a new receipt. Plus their stores do not do refunds on torn receipts, because of 'dumpster divers' who find receipts and take products off the shelf and try to get a refund. They tear up the receipts to stop this, as a result, no torn receipts are accepted for refund.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

The original receipt was not from his store, he couldn't reprint the receipt.

As for taping the receipt, he said they offered to do that, but they didn't want that, they wanted a new receipt. Plus their stores do not do refunds on torn receipts, because of 'dumpster divers' who find receipts and take products off the shelf and try to get a refund. They tear up the receipts to stop this, as a result, no torn receipts are accepted for refund.

Of course they could print a new receipt. You just run it through as a return/exchange. They run it through as the customer returned the items and then immediately bought the same ones.

Your friend's store has all those policies but no policy that prevents an employee reaching in the cash register and taking out $100???

 

[MNGuy]

Of course they could print a new receipt. You just run it through as a return/exchange. They run it through as the customer returned the items and then immediately bought the same ones.

Your friend's store has all those policies but no policy that prevents an employee reaching in the cash register and taking out $100???

Yeah, they could have done that. I'll have to give him shit.

Added:

I texted him and he said he didn't think of that until later.

I told him that's why he still works in retail and I got the hell out.