Prostitution: Yea or Nay

[Susscrofa]

I'm just curious how people on this site feel about prostitution from several perspectives:

1. Legally - Do you think prostitution should be illegal, decriminalized, legal but regulated, or legal with no restrictions (except age of consent laws, laws against coercion/assault, etc)?

2. Ethically - Is sex with prostitutes something that you find acceptable, separate from legal issues (i.e. you can support legalizing something even if you find it personally repellant)

3. Sexually - Does the thought of paying for sex appeal to you?

From my own perspective, I would answer 1-3 as follows:

1. I support legalization with some minimal regulations, such as zoning laws for places of operation, no streetwalking (potential public nuisance like panhandling) etc. The strongest argument against this position is the threat of human trafficking and coercion of people into prostitution. However, this is a separate issue from prostitution itself - people can be coerced and trafficked into being farm laborers, which says nothing about the legality or morality of farm labor itself.

2. I have no ethical problems with prostitution, mainly because people pay for sex directly or indirectly in other ways. In perfectly legal for-pay pornography, people have sex with strangers or near-strangers for money. It's perfectly legal for a girl to have a sugar daddy, or for a woman to gold-dig when looking for a boyfriend or spouse. It's a difference of degree rather than kind.

3. On a personal level, I do find the no-strings attached, we both don't have to deal with each other the following day or even the following hour somewhat appealing. Just pure, raw transactional sex with no pretense of being anything else

 

[oneblueye]

hey ...

I think that it should be regulated the same way any other business is regulated.

Ethically I look at it like this, its gonna get done, why should ya go to jail just because ya gotta-get-a-nut.

It isn't so much that the thought of paying for sex is exciting , (any more than the thought of PAYING for anything is exciting.) But as far as convenience goes, hey, I'm paying for a service ---, then by GOD whether I blow it fast or I blow that nut just as slow as I want, thats how it gets done and when its done, its done.
No weeping and crying and lying about when its gonna happen again.

 

[klippert]

Not like you'll get arrested these days.

 

[heathrowinneo]

I'm just curious how people on this site feel about prostitution from several perspectives:

1. Legally - Do you think prostitution should be illegal, decriminalized, legal but regulated, or legal with no restrictions (except age of consent laws, laws against coercion/assault, etc)?

2. Ethically - Is sex with prostitutes something that you find acceptable, separate from legal issues (i.e. you can support legalizing something even if you find it personally repellant)

3. Sexually - Does the thought of paying for sex appeal to you?

From my own perspective, I would answer 1-3 as follows:

1. I support legalization with some minimal regulations, such as zoning laws for places of operation, no streetwalking (potential public nuisance like panhandling) etc. The strongest argument against this position is the threat of human trafficking and coercion of people into prostitution. However, this is a separate issue from prostitution itself - people can be coerced and trafficked into being farm laborers, which says nothing about the legality or morality of farm labor itself.

2. I have no ethical problems with prostitution, mainly because people pay for sex directly or indirectly in other ways. In perfectly legal for-pay pornography, people have sex with strangers or near-strangers for money. It's perfectly legal for a girl to have a sugar daddy, or for a woman to gold-dig when looking for a boyfriend or spouse. It's a difference of degree rather than king.

3. On a personal level, I do find the no-strings attached, we both don't have to deal with each other the following day or even the following hour somewhat appealing. Just pure, raw transactional sex with no pretense of being anything else

1. legalize it, regulate it and tax it.. so 10% of the hummer/cumshot just went to us treasury, 4% to the state and 2% went to the locals... and it should be deductible as well, ya know, health relayed matters... so, if you are going to get fucked, do it with a professional...

2. no worries on ethics, as so many times the phrase is stated in the stories on lit, 'it's just sex'... politicians do it all day long, screwing us over and we have to pay for it so why not get some pleasure out of it cuz the other reason for taxation is not pleasurable...

3.hey, if you want to pay for it, go for it. there are enough hook-up sites to find some nookie, if you want...

 

[screwher]

I’m all for the legalization of prostitution. Regulate it so it’s run like a legit business so theres a safe environment of its workers. Get it off the streets.

The thought of paying for sex does arouse me. But with a twist. I have a fantasy that my wife is a high priced call girl. Her clients consist of rich travelling businessmen. Whenever they’re in town she makes arrangements to meet them at their hotel rooms. She’s paid quite well but it’s not about the money for us. But the thrill.

 

[Carnevil9]

As a libertarian, I'm in favor of legalizing prostitution, as well as all drugs. Things that hurt other people should be illegal, not things make you happy, or things that only hurt the person doing it voluntarily.

 

[Escierto]

As a libertarian, I'm in favor of legalizing prostitution, as well as all drugs. Things that hurt other people should be illegal, not things make you happy, or things that only hurt the person doing it voluntarily.

I completely agree with you. Why is selling the labor from your body legal but not the use of your body? Legalization would improve the lives of millions while leaving everyone else unaffected.

 

[stickygirl]

Not like you'll get arrested these days.

Really?
"in the U.S., prostitutes get busted more often than Johns or pimps by a huge margin. Every year in the U.S., between 70,000 and 80,000 people are arrested for prostitution, costing taxpayers approximately $200 million."

From the same article the death rates for prostitutes are unfavourably compared to other work, normally considered as hazardous. In the US the death rate is quoted as 204 per 100k for prostitutes against Alaskan fishermen 129 per 100k.

Personally I have no problem with people making a living that way, if you can call it that, but whatever changes make their lives safer need to be made. Trump ought to be on side with that...

 

[Ziggins]

I expect barter will become more common than hard currency. The internet will be long gone, but some writer then may have a story about the town wench fucking for a barrel of beer, which she trades for shoes.

 

[phil1955]

While I favor free enterprise and would like to see a person be able to sell their body if they so desire, the reality is that we would need to do a great deal to make this vocation safe. So much prostitution is forced on vulnerable people through drug abuse or even plain old slavery. Other than a few high priced call girls, this is not a profession that is good for a persons health.

 

[heathrowinneo]

I'm just curious how people on this site feel about prostitution from several perspectives:

1. Legally - Do you think prostitution should be illegal, decriminalized, legal but regulated, or legal with no restrictions (except age of consent laws, laws against coercion/assault, etc)?

2. Ethically - Is sex with prostitutes something that you find acceptable, separate from legal issues (i.e. you can support legalizing something even if you find it personally repellant)

3. Sexually - Does the thought of paying for sex appeal to you?

From my own perspective, I would answer 1-3 as follows:

1. I support legalization with some minimal regulations, such as zoning laws for places of operation, no streetwalking (potential public nuisance like panhandling) etc. The strongest argument against this position is the threat of human trafficking and coercion of people into prostitution. However, this is a separate issue from prostitution itself - people can be coerced and trafficked into being farm laborers, which says nothing about the legality or morality of farm labor itself.

2. I have no ethical problems with prostitution, mainly because people pay for sex directly or indirectly in other ways. In perfectly legal for-pay pornography, people have sex with strangers or near-strangers for money. It's perfectly legal for a girl to have a sugar daddy, or for a woman to gold-dig when looking for a boyfriend or spouse. It's a difference of degree rather than king.

3. On a personal level, I do find the no-strings attached, we both don't have to deal with each other the following day or even the following hour somewhat appealing. Just pure, raw transactional sex with no pretense of being anything else

and another thought on the topic, what will it do the underground economy of illicit sex? also, some of the same people that benefit and run the sex trade also contribute to politicals, to keep the profession illegal... just think, legitimizing the sex trade and making money through taxes, requiring regular check-ups by the workers, hmmm might make an honest man or woman out of them and the politicians that scream about the world's oldest profession... not to mention those driving the underground economy...

 

[hogjack]

Nay. Too expensive. Bartering is more cost effective.

 

[nfrrdscnnr1]

1. Legalize it.
2. No moral judgment against it here.
3. The idea is not all that appealing but if some of the ladies in my circle were available, I'd pay in a heartbeat.

 

[ChrissyCD64]

Totally legal! Having been propositioned many times while out dressed in super slutty outfits, my wife and I could have made a lot of money in addition to the great sex we had.

 

[OldFred65]

My wife is a former prostitute back in Vietnam where it is legal. She, and I, both say totally legal. She has done it her as well on a few occasions while I was away on deployments. It was always nice to get home and find her happy, and a new TV and/or new furniture without having the bank accounts drained.

 

[my_other_life]

I agree with Susscrofa on all points, but I suspect this is mostly a men's and customer perspective. Prostitution has historically involved exploitation of women, making it mostly favorable for men to fulfill a physical need at relatively low total cost. Realistically though, there's no reason why prostitution can't be an equal opportunity profession of small business entrepreneurs.

Is there anyone directly involved in prostitution (male or female), or is close to someone who is, that can weigh in? I'd be very interested to hear about this from the provider's point of view.

 

[my_other_life]

I took so long to type a reply that I didn't see OldFred65's note - that's exactly what I'm curious about.

 

[LupusDei]

1. Legally - Do you think prostitution should be illegal, decriminalized, legal but regulated, or legal with no restrictions (except age of consent laws, laws against coercion/assault, etc)?

2. Ethically - Is sex with prostitutes something that you find acceptable, separate from legal issues (i.e. you can support legalizing something even if you find it personally repellant)

3. Sexually - Does the thought of paying for sex appeal to you?

1. It should be legal and regulated. Most importantly, the act of prostitution should never be illegal for the prostitute. If it is deemed necessary to prohibit it, it should be done like it is in Sweden, where it is illegal to use services of a prostitute, but perfectly legal to prostitute. In other words, the persons prosecuted should be the client and the pimp, but never the prostitute.

However, souternism, pimps of any kind should always be illegal. I know it can't really be enforced, it would be just reframed as providing a service of some kind or another for the prostitutes, and that in principle should be as legal as any other business, still, if it can be proven that the "service" has a direct interest or share in the sex trade itself they should be in hot water. In similar vein, public advertising of such services likely have to be prohibited, but I'm less sure that's absolutely necessary.

2. The only ethical objections are: first, the extent of consent of the prostitute -- it's never okay if she's forced in it in any way, even if only just by extreme hardship -- to speak about consent there must be meaningful choice; and second, regardless are you breaking law by proposing a prostitute, it is unethical to do so if she has to break laws by accepting your offer. I mean, it is one thing if I break law by my own choice, but it is worse if I facilitate you breaking laws. The second objection is completely eliminated by legalization of the trade (or even in Sweden prohibition model); the first always remains.

3. I can't deny there's a specific appeal, but I have thought about it and concluded I wouldn't feel comfortable with it and likely have hard time to enjoy myself in such a situation. I tend to overthink badly and I'm a hopeless romantic at the core, I guess.

 

[OldFred65]

I agree with Susscrofa on all points, but I suspect this is mostly a men's and customer perspective. Prostitution has historically involved exploitation of women, making it mostly favorable for men to fulfill a physical need at relatively low total cost. Realistically though, there's no reason why prostitution can't be an equal opportunity profession of small business entrepreneurs.

Is there anyone directly involved in prostitution (male or female), or is close to someone who is, that can weigh in? I'd be very interested to hear about this from the provider's point of view.

I can tell you that my wife never felt exploited, in fact she loved it. The only reason she left that life was the fall of South Vietnam. During the evacuation of Saigon, a client of hers who worked at the embassy put her on the helicopter that I was crewman on with the promise to meet up with her later. He never made it out and she ended up staying with me after we got back to our home base in Okinawa and we ave been together ever since. I never knew how much money she had made and saved up until after diplomatic relations were restored and we went back to visit and she was able to access her bank account. She (we) are quite well off.
By the way, her mom who is now 89 still owns a brothel there although she is no longer active in the sex part of it. It is run by her younger sister, 66.

 

[ChrissyCD64]

I can tell you that my wife never felt exploited, in fact she loved it. The only reason she left that life was the fall of South Vietnam. During the evacuation of Saigon, a client of hers who worked at the embassy put her on the helicopter that I was crewman on with the promise to meet up with her later. He never made it out and she ended up staying with me after we got back to our home base in Okinawa and we ave been together ever since. I never knew how much money she had made and saved up until after diplomatic relations were restored and we went back to visit and she was able to access her bank account. She (we) are quite well off.
By the way, her mom who is now 89 still owns a brothel there although she is no longer active in the sex part of it. It is run by her younger sister, 66.

That is so amazing! Glad you are both happy!

 

[JackOffer]

I think prostitution should be legal for both man and women. I'd love to get paid for sucking cock and getting my butt fucked.

 

[phil1955]

I think prostitution should be legal for both man and women. I'd love to get paid for sucking cock and getting my butt fucked.

I once read that there are more male prostitutes in the world than women. Not sure how accurate that statement was but there certainly are many male prostitutes and I would guess their primary clientele is other men.

 

[bone251]

No matter how legal it is, girls have an something that will be easily traded for funds or favor. Might be a smile for moving a box in the office of money for sex.

Any kind of pimp or manager will make a bad situation. Abuse and bad service starts this way. Best to find a FWB for funds situation. Girls that like sex and money will be the least likely to be abused. Been told this by the girls.

A man will pay a girl because she will leave and be discreet. It is not just about the sex.

In a past life I played in the hobby. Had a lot of fun. Even made some friends. Communication and research will make things work better.

In the US, you meet a girl someplace like a hotel or her place. You leave the money in an envelope on a table and never hand it to her. Verifying and checking references is a good thing. Canada is legal, but soliciting is not.

Yes there are problems. But meeting someone at a bar can have problems too. And dating your secretary is not discreet.

I have PMed girls on this board that were Escorts. These girls said they were poorly treated by many girls on this board and disappeared. Maybe sex for money is bad and maybe sex outside of marriage is bad too. But this is a board that is supposed to be open to all kinds of sex. This should include all.

When I was playing, I used to look for ladies that were more mature and stayed away from the young girls. There were several girls that used to just meet guys at the bar for a one night stand that found escorting safer and easier to control. And the money was good. I had a great time.

Several years ago I left a bad marriage and now have a great life with lots of fun sex. So, I am out of the hobby.

 

[Just4AFriend]

I expect barter will become more common than hard currency. The internet will be long gone, but some writer then may have a story about the town wench fucking for a barrel of beer, which she trades for shoes.

Wait? What happens next!??

Should I know this story?
Does she end up at a convent and then gets put out as singing nanny?

It’s legal in Nevada

We all now have legal gambling closer, why not a bro-thel
Note... now? Men would bitch because their ladies might make them
Cat-houses. I would bet women are better customers

 

[my_other_life]

OldFred65, thank you for your insight. I'm glad things turned out well. It sounds like you and your wife have quite a story to tell.