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senate votes to remove confederate names from military bases

Lazaran said:
No, you really didn't.

Your comment equating southern black slaves to southern white traitors is beyond racist.
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No, it's not and it couldn't be.

You need to look up the term "racism"....you clearly don't understand what it means.

Lazaran said:
The most telling line in his response to Horace Greely is the final line where he expresses his wish that all men everywhere could be free.
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How very right wing of him.....
 
hogjack said:
Every officer for the Confederacy believed they were with a new country led by Jefferson Davis (D). Every officer for the Confederacy took up arms to protect their new country.

The North did what it had to do from "forgiveness" to other measures to make the nation whole.

But, make no mistake, the South was its own country with its own capitol. Had it "won" the war - a highly unlikely outcome based on its severe disadvantages - the officers would have continued as Confederacy military leaders.

So, yes, the Generals and officers of the Confederacy spend four years working for another country.
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The winners write the narrative and the winners say they never left.
 
Wrong Element said:
I don't want to "erase history," but why not honor some different people? I'm probably forgetting a few, but the only military installations I can think of named after generals on the non-treason side of the Civil War are Fort Meade and Fort Sill.

Beetle Bailey is more deserving of having something named for him than Robert E. Fucking Lee.
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Why do you think this of Lee?
 
Biggs_Darklighter said:
Vette and Ish are especially triggered lately. Like way more than usual. I simply can't imagine why.
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Change terrifies the both of them.
Both of them want things to stay the way they are.
Remember, Ishmael declined penicillin when he got syphillis in the 1960s and asked for arsenic tincture instead...hey, if it was good enough for daddy....
 
RobDownSouth said:
Change terrifies the both of them.
Both of them want things to stay the way they are.
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Change terrifies all the Deplorables. They thought electing Trump was going to make everything the way it was when rich white men ruled the nation, but instead, it triggered a massive public movement against going backwards.

Poor Deplorables. :( Make sure you give them plenty of safe space for their grieving. :rose:
 
So the south loses it's participation trophies? Big deal. Looks like they're 2 time losers now.:)
 
Wrong Element said:
I note that the poster who has been most vehement about defining any opposition to Donald Trump as "treason" is awfully tolerant of military officers who actually took up arms against the United States.
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All but a few of those officers were pardoned after the Civil War.:rolleyes:
 
Wrong Element said:
I don't want to "erase history," but why not honor some different people? I'm probably forgetting a few, but the only military installations I can think of named after generals on the non-treason side of the Civil War are Fort Meade and Fort Sill.
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Of the 57 Army bases in the United States only ten are named for confederate generals.
:rolleyes:
 
I only just found out, all the bases named after traitors were named AFTER WW2.

Which makes Tucker Carlson's "it's part of the post civil war reconciliation" utter bullshit.
 
Sean said:
I only just found out, all the bases named after traitors were named AFTER WW2.

Which makes Tucker Carlson's "it's part of the post civil war reconciliation" utter bullshit.
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Fort Bragg began as Camp Bragg, as did Fort Benning, both named in 1918 for the reasons I pointed out in a post the other day. Pay attention.
 
Rightguide said:
Fort Bragg began as Camp Bragg, as did Fort Benning, both named in 1918 for the reasons I pointed out in a post the other day. Pay attention.
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My mistake, should have said WW1. Doesn't negate the point.
 
bellisarius said:
The winners write the narrative and the winners say they never left.
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Stop re-writing history to fit your own narrative.

The US Confederacy with a state capitol, legislature, and constitution is a fact. Jefferson Davis was the president of the Confederacy. Fact. He literally gave two inaugural addresses as the new president. Fact. The military of the Confederacy literally reported up to Jefferson, the president. Fact. Currency printed. Fact. Forming or attempting to form alliances with other nations. Fact.

The Confederate States of America, whether recognized or not by the North or any other nation, acted as its own country.

The 'winners' successfully stopped it from continuing beyond four years.

No base or fort or bathroom stall should be named after any officer serving another country. Traitors one and all no matter how skilled, talented, or effective in a war that could only be extended but not won..
 
After appropriate pause ....


Rucker was a Colonel, so the correct number is 9.
 
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