Minneapolis Protests

[Emerson40]

I read that it was right leaning terrorists who started the fires to make the peaceful protesters look bad.
Wouldnt surprise me one bit coming from such a shithole of a country. Common sense and human decency is dead in america.

There is some video and photos of an agent provocateur smashing windows to incite...

It's not applicable to today's reality.

The poopsmith delivers some unintentional irony.

 

[icanhelp1]

It's not applicable to today's reality.

Anarchist and selective victimhood are the flavor of the day. You have to feel for the family as these dickwads take over the narratives. How many years did we have to live with the false narrative " HANDS UP DON'T SHOOT" a big lie!!

 

[LesPatterson]

Them damn neutrinos. You're lucky! Those damn neutrinos can't penetrate your big happy Barnum and Bailey democratic circus tent.

a quote from your Ghetto?. a Ghetto is not a place it's the SHIT who inhabitants it.

 

[FlowersForFun]

Trump: Looting = Shooting!

https://media2.giphy.com/media/lnz5AsSJTwnkusAOJe/giphy.gif

Welcome to America bitch....people are allowed to protect their private property here.



Here is a little history lesson on 'Roof Koreans'.
https://i.imgur.com/jYLBryf.jpg

 

[hogjack]

You haven't been funny or relevant since the Obama administration.

I could say the same but...not sure who or what you are. Don't care.

My guess: you're 40 pounds overweight, balding, and still masturbating to Penthouse magazines from the 80s piled on the floor beneath your twin-sized, urine-stained mattress.

Seriously, you can change life. Don't give up. Ever!

 

[bestone4ever]

I could say the same but...not sure who or what you are. Don't care.

My guess: you're 40 pounds overweight, balding, and still masturbating to Penthouse magazines from the 80s piled on the floor beneath your twin-sized, urine-stained mattress.

Seriously, you can change life. Don't give up. Ever!

You are jealous, ask your mom for a bump in allowance.

 

[Mal_Huevo]

Anarchist and selective victimhood are the flavor of the day. You have to feel for the family as these dickwads take over the narratives. How many years did we have to live with the false narrative " HANDS UP DON'T SHOOT" a big lie!!

Selective victimhood.... the trump reelection strategy.

 

[LesPatterson]

I could say the same but...not sure who or what you are. Don't care.

My guess: you're 40 pounds overweight, balding, and still masturbating to Penthouse magazines from the 80s piled on the floor beneath your twin-sized, urine-stained mattress.

Seriously, you can change life. Don't give up. Ever!

that was very bitchy......

 

[bestone4ever]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/lnz5AsSJTwnkusAOJe/giphy.gif

Welcome to America bitch....people are allowed to protect their private property here.



Here is a little history lesson on 'Roof Koreans'.
https://i.imgur.com/jYLBryf.jpg

It's a good thing that all of you keyboard badasses only have the balls to post pics of what you fantasize about. Your fake children are embarrassed.

 

[Lazaran]

There have been studies galore, a disproportionately large percentage of the left DON'T think, they feel.

They can't separate rational though from their fee fees.

That's why when you state biological facts such as only women can make babies, gender is not a social construct and testosterone is an actual thing with physiological effects on the human body?

They flip out and call you a Nazi for attacking the Trans community.

This is readily observable here on the GB, daily.



LOL good luck.

The far left gets emotional, the far right is just fucking crazy. Especially the God and guns crowd. The climate deniers and the billionaire boot lickers, aren't crazy, they're just sociopaths who will support anything to maintain their personal status quo. The Trump crowd is a combination of crazy and sociopathic.

I don't care about people's personal relationships unless it involves predatory behavior or coercion. This can occur among those of any sexual preference.

I'm definitely left of center when it comes to climate, guns, healthcare, abortion, and most importantly, inequality, but it doesn't mean I'm emotional.

I just look at all the facts and circumstances and come to a conclusion.

 

[FlowersForFun]

It's a good thing that all of you keyboard badasses only have the balls to post pics of what you fantasize about. Your fake children are embarrassed.

Fantasize about? LOL I've got far far more combat experience than anyone in that picture and 99% of the US military.

But hey, don't let the facts stop you from making up lies, because lying is what you do best.

I'm definitely left of center when it comes to climate, guns, healthcare, abortion, and most importantly, inequality, but it doesn't mean I'm emotional.

Inequality or inequity? Not the same and lefties LOVE to conflate the two.

Pursuit of equality (everyone treated the same) is reich wing shit only psychopathic racist Nazis support.

Equity (more equal outcomes for all) is what the left pursues....through wealth redistribution among other things like public HC and gun control.

 

[Comshaw]

There actually are laws about interfering in an officers ability to perform their duty.

These amateur paparazzi have caused injury and death in the past and will do so in the future.

I wasn't a cop but I did have some training in being cognizant of bystanders in a crisis situation, and recognizing that any one of them could be a potential threat.

I'll say it again.

The crowd helped kill the guy. Period.

While I would agree, if the cop had been by himself with a crowd gathered around him he would have been on high alert and had both hands ready to respond. However that wasn't the case, so let's look at the facts shall we?

1) The cop is sitting with his knee on the guys neck AND HIS HAND IN HIS POCKET. Does that suggest he was in anyway on alert for danger from the crowd?

2)There were 4 other cops present who should have been his cover while he got Mr. Floyd under control. In a situation such as that, that's exactly what the job of the four standing there would be, allowing the officer making the asset to concentrate on the subject.

While it could be as you describe, because of the afore mentioned facts, the premise of your argument does not stand up to scrutiny.

On the one hand, he's somewhat correct. The crowd did have a role in what happened by failing to stop what was going on right in front of them. That doesn't mean they were at fault or complicit, only that they played a role in the final result. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. The crowd stood by and did nothing.


On the other hand, I totally agree with you.

And in that situation, you would step forward and try to stop what was going on? Even with a threat of being shot or arrested?

Comshaw

 

[HisArpy]

While I would agree, if the cop had been by himself with a crowd gathered around him he would have been on high alert and had both hands ready to respond. However that wasn't the case, so let's look at that facts shall we?

1) The cop is sitting with his knee on the guys neck AND HIS HAND IN HIS POCKET. Does that suggest he was in anyway on alert for danger from the crowd?

2)There were 4 other cops present who should have been his cover while he got Mr. Floyd under control. In a situation such as that, that's exactly what the job of the four standing there would be, allowing the officer making the asset to concentrate on the subject.

While it could be as you describe, because of the afore mentioned facts, the premise of your argument does not stand up to scrutiny.




And in that situation, you would step forward and try to stop what was going on? Even at with a threat of being shot or arrested?

Comshaw

I have done so in the past. I am willing to do so in the future should the need arise.

The question is; why aren't you equally as willing?

 

[bestone4ever]

I have done so in the past. I am willing to do so in the future should the need arise.

The question is; why aren't you equally as willing?

You would never step to authority like that. You're a follower and too weak to do something so bold.

Plus, you get caught lying a lot.

 

[Comshaw]

I have done so in the past. I am willing to do so in the future should the need arise.

The question is; why aren't you equally as willing?

Perhaps you've spoken up when you saw something that you didn't consider to be right, but have you faced down armed men who would and legally could put bullet in you? Some how I doubt that.

And where did I say I wasn't willing? Or say that I was for that matter. That's projection on your part because I made neither claim.

As far as doing so, I cannot claim I'd do one or the other until I was in that situation. Most of us have no idea what we will do in situations like that. We know what we would want to do, but that's a far cry from being certain.


Comshaw

 

[FlowersForFun]

You would never step to authority like that. You're a follower and too weak to do something so bold.

Plus, you get caught lying a lot.

Biggest liar on the board is ascribing and projecting again....dishonest as ever and just as childish.

Likely LUk.

 

[Lazaran]

Inequality or inequity? Not the same and lefties LOVE to conflate the two.

Pursuit of equality (everyone treated the same) is reich wing shit only psychopathic racist Nazis support.

Equity (more equal outcomes for all) is what the left pursues....through wealth redistribution among other things like public HC and gun control.

Wanting ALL people to be treated equally under the law is not a Nazi ideology.

It's GROSS inequality and GROSS inequity that are the problem. I guess I should have been more specific, although far right nut jobs sociopaths don't usually care about inequality or inequity, GROSS or otherwise.

Just as I can see all the things that contributed to Mr.Floyds death, I can see all the things that have contributed to GROSS inequality and GROSS inequity in this country and around the world.

GROSS economic disparity is the greatest cause of the current societal unrest and the greatest threat to long term societal tranquility.

I'm sure you disagree because it interferes with your personal status quo.

 

[HisArpy]

Perhaps you've spoken up when you saw something that you didn't consider to be right, but have you faced down armed men who would and legally could put bullet in you? Some how I doubt that.

And where did I say I wasn't willing? Or say that I was for that matter. That's projection on your part because I made neither claim.

As far as doing so, I cannot claim I'd do one or the other until I was in that situation. Most of us have no idea what we will do in situations like that. We know what we would want to do, but that's a far cry from being certain.


Comshaw

As I said, I HAVE done so. If you don't want to believe that, then don't.

When it comes time to actually step up, most people sit on the couch. I can see from your reply that you're thinking the couch is pretty comfy these days. Which is cool but it doesn't really give you any license to criticize or doubt those who aren't sitting alongside of you.

 

[Rightguide]

Interestingly, the officer and the victim knew each other and worked together as security for a local club. This however doesn't excuse his criminal action but is an indicator of a possible wider story:

https://www.kktv.com/content/news/M...ched-amid-George-Floyd-protest-570858641.html

 

[Comshaw]

As I said, I HAVE done so. If you don't want to believe that, then don't.

When it comes time to actually step up, most people sit on the couch. I can see from your reply that you're thinking the couch is pretty comfy these days. Which is cool but it doesn't really give you any license to criticize or doubt those who aren't sitting alongside of you.

Well my dear Sir, I think you are a blow hard. I believe you haven't ever been on the wrong end of a gun, legal or otherwise and faced it down.

It is amazing you are clairvoyant enough to know who I am and what I've done in my life!

And for clarity's sake, as a free citizen of this country, I have every right to criticize anything I wish, especially hollow, unsubstantiated braggadocios claims from someone on the 'net.

You seem to think I should take your claims as fact, while you can dismiss claims from others out of hand. You need to go find my post on credibility and read it. Show us some, build some and I'll begin to believe what you claim. Until then, if you claim it without proof, it's so much manufactured bullshit as far as I'm concerned.

TA

Comshaw

 

[Comshaw]

I thought I'd share this take on the incident form one of our local sheriffs:

Sheriff Paul Pastor, Pierce County Washington

The Necessity of Calling Out Our Own

As I read news stories and watched broadcast news about Minneapolis, these are my thoughts. What happened was wrong. And no, it cannot be explained away.

I know that policing is not easy. It involves the need to make balanced ethical decisions which can greatly impact people’s lives. Often these decisions need to be made in chaotic, emotional situations with insufficient information with real time constraints. At the same time, there is a need to protect the physical safety of the public, your own safety and that of your fellow officers. I respect and honor the men and women who do this incredibly difficult job correctly every day.

But now comes the incident in Minneapolis.

Mr. George Floyd died in Minneapolis last week. Police action caused or set the stage for this death. I do not know all of the details. And some could argue that until all of details are known, we cannot come to any conclusions.

To those, I would say “try watching the video again.” The same video I have seen and everyone has seen. Note the clear picture of the knee on the neck.

Sure, this sometimes happens in the midst of trying to get control in a fight. In the real world, unlike on television, violence is not carefully choreographed.

But here, in this real world incident which we see take place in real time, the knee remains in place after resistance has stopped and for several additional minutes with four officers present. None of the officers intervened. None stepped forward to say, “That’s enough. Back off.”

This is wrong. And it needs to be recognized and called out.

Was it the result of racism, anger, improper tactics, or some combination of these things ? I don’t know.

I do know that America, for all of its many promises and blessings and for all of its tremendous strengths, has a large, unresolved racial divide. Like it or not, that is a fact. And we see that divide enhanced by incidents like this one.

For too many Americans, this divide and its awful consequences is an uncomfortable and embarrassing fact which is more easily downplayed than acknowledged. That discomfort and that embarrassment may be part of the reason that we, in law enforcement, are too often silent after situations like this.

No, I do not pretend to know all the details. But, yes, I see that there is a very real problem here.

No, I will not agree with all of the accusations and anger which will be directed at law enforcement nationwide as the result of this incident.

But, again, let’s be clear: there is a problem here. Let’s step forward and call that out.

Because it is the right thing to do.

Not just for George Floyd and his family, not just for the people of Minneapolis and not just for the Minneapolis Police Department. But because, ultimately, it is necessary to the well-being and credibility of our profession. And, ultimately, it is a necessary part of healing America’s large and unresolved racial divide.


Comshaw

 

[HisArpy]

Well my dear Sir, I think you are a blow hard. I believe you haven't ever been on the wrong end of a gun, legal or otherwise and faced it down.

It is amazing you are clairvoyant enough to know who I am and what I've done in my life!

And for clarity's sake, as a free citizen of this country, I have every right to criticize anything I wish, especially hollow, unsubstantiated braggadocios claims from someone on the 'net.

You seem to think I should take your claims as fact, while you can dismiss claims from others out of hand. You need to go find my post on credibility and read it. Show us some, build some and I'll begin to believe what you claim. Until then, if you claim it without proof, it's so much manufactured bullshit as far as I'm concerned.

TA

Comshaw

Lol. Compare and contrast sentence #2 above with sentence #3 above.

It's like you're arguing with yourself. And losing.

As for the rest, I have zero desire to discuss the who/what/when/where over the internet. I don't particularly care if you like it or not.

 

[Lazaran]

While I would agree, if the cop had been by himself with a crowd gathered around him he would have been on high alert and had both hands ready to respond. However that wasn't the case, so let's look at the facts shall we?

1) The cop is sitting with his knee on the guys neck AND HIS HAND IN HIS POCKET. Does that suggest he was in anyway on alert for danger from the crowd?

2)There were 4 other cops present who should have been his cover while he got Mr. Floyd under control. In a situation such as that, that's exactly what the job of the four standing there would be, allowing the officer making the asset to concentrate on the subject.

While it could be as you describe, because of the afore mentioned facts, the premise of your argument does not stand up to scrutiny.

Comshaw

Honestly, I can't read minds to know what was going through the cops head as he was kneeling on the guys neck. Do I think the cop could move HIS HAND FROM HIS POCKET to his weapon in less than a second?? Yes.

Was he catching his breath after restraining and cuffing Mr.Floyd?? Possibly.

Was he waiting until one of the other officers who were controlling the crowd came over to assist him in lifting the cuffed Mr.Floyd to his feet and getting him into the cruiser?? Possibly.

The cop was alone with Mr.Floyd, so he would have had to attempt to move Mr.Floyd by himself at that time. If he was out of breath from cuffing Mr.Floyd (who apparently resisted if he was face down on the ground cuffed), he may not have felt he was capable of moving him by himself and was not going to move until he got assistance from another officer, or until he sufficiently recovered himself to do it alone. Mr. Floyd was a very large man by the way, and even rested it would have been difficult for the one cop to safely get Mr.Floyd off the ground and into the cruiser.

Again, this does not absolve the cop for his actions, but it does support my assertion that the crowd interfering with the officers making the arrest contributed to Mr.Floyds death.

Nothing you presented undermines my premise or my conclusion.

 

[Lancedalot]

I thought I'd share this take on the incident form one of our local sheriffs:

Sheriff Paul Pastor, Pierce County Washington

The Necessity of Calling Out Our Own

As I read news stories and watched broadcast news about Minneapolis, these are my thoughts. What happened was wrong. And no, it cannot be explained away.

I know that policing is not easy. It involves the need to make balanced ethical decisions which can greatly impact people’s lives. Often these decisions need to be made in chaotic, emotional situations with insufficient information with real time constraints. At the same time, there is a need to protect the physical safety of the public, your own safety and that of your fellow officers. I respect and honor the men and women who do this incredibly difficult job correctly every day.

But now comes the incident in Minneapolis.

Mr. George Floyd died in Minneapolis last week. Police action caused or set the stage for this death. I do not know all of the details. And some could argue that until all of details are known, we cannot come to any conclusions.

To those, I would say “try watching the video again.” The same video I have seen and everyone has seen. Note the clear picture of the knee on the neck.

Sure, this sometimes happens in the midst of trying to get control in a fight. In the real world, unlike on television, violence is not carefully choreographed.

But here, in this real world incident which we see take place in real time, the knee remains in place after resistance has stopped and for several additional minutes with four officers present. None of the officers intervened. None stepped forward to say, “That’s enough. Back off.”

This is wrong. And it needs to be recognized and called out.

Was it the result of racism, anger, improper tactics, or some combination of these things ? I don’t know.

I do know that America, for all of its many promises and blessings and for all of its tremendous strengths, has a large, unresolved racial divide. Like it or not, that is a fact. And we see that divide enhanced by incidents like this one.

For too many Americans, this divide and its awful consequences is an uncomfortable and embarrassing fact which is more easily downplayed than acknowledged. That discomfort and that embarrassment may be part of the reason that we, in law enforcement, are too often silent after situations like this.

No, I do not pretend to know all the details. But, yes, I see that there is a very real problem here.

No, I will not agree with all of the accusations and anger which will be directed at law enforcement nationwide as the result of this incident.

But, again, let’s be clear: there is a problem here. Let’s step forward and call that out.

Because it is the right thing to do.

Not just for George Floyd and his family, not just for the people of Minneapolis and not just for the Minneapolis Police Department. But because, ultimately, it is necessary to the well-being and credibility of our profession. And, ultimately, it is a necessary part of healing America’s large and unresolved racial divide.


Comshaw

You should try selling that racial divide bullshit to Tony Timpa's fam.

 

[HisArpy]

Honestly, I can't read minds to know what was going through the cops head as he was kneeling on the guys neck. Do I think the cop could move HIS HAND FROM HIS POCKET to his weapon in less than a second?? Yes.

Was he catching his breath after restraining and cuffing Mr.Floyd?? Possibly.

Was he waiting until one of the other officers who were controlling the crowd came over to assist him in lifting the cuffed Mr.Floyd to his feet and getting him into the cruiser?? Possibly.

The cop was alone with Mr.Floyd, so he would have had to attempt to move Mr.Floyd by himself at that time. If he was out of breath from cuffing Mr.Floyd (who apparently resisted if he was face down on the ground cuffed), he may not have felt he was capable of moving him by himself and was not going to move until he got assistance from another officer, or until he sufficiently recovered himself to do it alone. Mr. Floyd was a very large man by the way, and even rested it would have been difficult for the one cop to safely get Mr.Floyd off the ground and into the cruiser.

Again, this does not absolve the cop for his actions, but it does support my assertion that the crowd interfering with the officers making the arrest contributed to Mr.Floyds death.

Nothing you presented undermines my premise or my conclusion.

You should watch the full video where Floyd was arrested and cuffed on the sidewalk without resisting, and then walked peacefully to the car. Where he was murdered on camera for all of us to see.