We Knew It Was Coming

[Conager]

Good article as well as the follow-up article about what it takes to be a material statement.

This is one is about the charge documents: https://www.redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/05/07/the-process-used-to-coerce-gen.-flynns-guilty-plea-is-key-makes-his-admission-to-the-crimes-nearly-meaningless./

It isn't highlighted in the article, but I had never noticed that Flynn was never indicted. He could not have been, because there was no basis for the indictment, and indictment would have required discovery, and discovery would have given the game away.

This article is more talking about the fact that Flynn and his attorney is where we lying on the truth of what's being a certain in the charging document to decide whether or not he is by the definitions outline of the charging documents guilty of what he's being charged of with.

The problem is the charging documents are a certain things that are not true. It was never true that the agents were relying on his statements to decide the direction of a case that they'd already decided they needed to close. His statements about what he did or didn't say the the Russian ambassador we're likewise in material since they already knew what it actually been said in discuss. What plan fed about what was or wasn't discussed is absolutely in material to the case because they already knew nothing improper head been discussed.

This article gets inti the materiallity of the statements:

https://www.redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/05/07/why-newly-released-documents-in-the-flynn-case-undermine-a-finding-of-materiality-in-his-false-statements-and-would-doom-any-prosecution-of-him-at-trial/

 

[Hugh_Essay]

You should be ashamed of yourself. Knowing what we all know, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Shut it, gav.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Good article as well as the follow-up article about what it takes to be a material statement.

This is one is about the charge documents: https://www.redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/05/07/the-process-used-to-coerce-gen.-flynns-guilty-plea-is-key-makes-his-admission-to-the-crimes-nearly-meaningless./

It isn't highlighted in the article, but I had never noticed that Flynn was never indicted. He could not have been, because there was no basis for the indictment, and indictment would have required discovery, and discovery would have given the game away.

This article is more talking about the fact that Flynn and his attorney is where we lying on the truth of what's being a certain in the charging document to decide whether or not he is by the definitions outline of the charging documents guilty of what he's being charged of with.

The problem is the charging documents are a certain things that are not true. It was never true that the agents were relying on his statements to decide the direction of a case that they'd already decided they needed to close. His statements about what he did or didn't say the the Russian ambassador we're likewise in material since they already knew what it actually been said in discuss. What plan fed about what was or wasn't discussed is absolutely in material to the case because they already knew nothing improper head been discussed.

This article gets inti the materiallity of the statements:

https://www.redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/05/07/why-newly-released-documents-in-the-flynn-case-undermine-a-finding-of-materiality-in-his-false-statements-and-would-doom-any-prosecution-of-him-at-trial/

No confirmation bias here, dummy.

RedState was founded in 2004 as a 527 group by conservative bloggers Joshua Treviño,[4] Ben Domenech,[5] and Mike Krempasky.

Salem Media Group, Inc. (NASDAQ: SALM; formerly Salem Communications Corporation) is an American radio broadcaster, Internet content provider, and magazine and book publisher based in Camarillo, California, targeting audiences interested in Christian values and what it describes as "family-themed content and conservative values.

Epperson was reported in Time magazine as one of the "25 Most Influential Evangelicals in America".

GTFO, dummy.

 

[Conager]

Where, exactly did I imply there wasn't when quoting an opinion piece, dummy?

You seem very upset.

 

[DeluxAuto]

When did I say anything about an opinion piece, dummy?

You seem very dumb, dummy.

 

[Conager]

Not my fault you cannot recognize an obvious opinion piece.

There was far better journalistic practices displayed in that RedState opinion piece than the AP "news" article, by the way.

 

[Rightguide]

I suspect history will not be kind to William Barr.

Especially if it's written by the ever lying left who fabricated this entire conspiracy.

 

[Rightguide]

Nor to King Dong. I don't expect any honest prosecutions of the Reich members until The Dong is out of office.

There has to be a Democrat in the White House who will swear to a lie before it can happen.

 

[Rightguide]

Not my fault you cannot recognize an obvious opinion piece.

There was far better journalistic practices displayed in that RedState opinion piece than the AP "news" article, by the way.

Four friggin' years of spouting the proven lies contained in left wing opinion pieces and all of a sudden Luk's worried about opinion pieces.

 

[tog18]

I read your tripe, Connie. You're incapable of having critical thinking and you prove that daily by trying to pigeonhole others into you narrow-minded bull shit.

Here's what I googled:

If you weren't so quick to jump people's shit, you might learn a thing or two. But you don't so you can't.

You might as well just said what the new lame alt said.

2018

 

[tog18]

brhodes testified under oath

when asked whether he had evidence of collusion, conspiracy,coordination btwn Trump camp & #Russia:
"I saw indications of potential coordination, but I did not see, you know, the specific evidence of the actions of the Trump campaign"- per House Intel transcript


HillaryClinton campaign chair @johnpodesta told House Intel in 2017:"I have no specific facts or information relating to conversations that may have been had between people from the Trump camp.& either Assange (@wikileaks)or representatives of the Russian Gov't" #transcripts


Former AG Loretta Lynch was asked whether she had evidence of collusion, coordination or conspiracy.
She said that she did "not recall that being briefed up to me."
"I can't say that it existed or not," Lynch said,according to House Intel #Russia transcripts #LorettaLynch

@AmbassadorRice when asked whether she had evidence of collusion, conspiracy, coordination: "“I don’t recall intel or evidence to that effect," House Intel #Russia transcript shows

@SamanthaJPower, when asked if she had evidence of collusion,coordination, conspiracy btwn Trump camp & Russians:“I am not in possession of anything-I am not in possession and didn’t read or absorb information that came from out of the intelligence community,transcript shows

former DNI James Clapper says : "I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or someone in it was plotting/ conspiring with the Russians to meddle with the election." -- in transcript of interview with House Intel during its Russia probe.

How many times have these folks lied in public since? Why is it that this was known by Schiff etc, Why did these people say what they said UNDER OATH, yet on TV say the OPPOSITE? Why was this suppressed for so long?

It’s now CONFIRMED. Adam Schiff is a lying fraud who has purposefully and willingly lied to the American public for years about the collusion hoax. Assisted the entire time by morons in the media too stupid to get out of their own way.

 

[tog18]

Adam Schiff interviewed 53 witnesses during his Russia witch hunt.

Not a single one provided evidence of collusion.

How could he be on TV saying the exact opposite from 2017 till NOW? Will anyone on TV ask him about it? DAY, he still maintains COLLUSION!

 

[bellisarius]

Whether Flynn will have any redress in civil court is going to come down to how Sullivan words his final ruling, and Sullivan does have to make a ruling even concerning the dropping of the case.

Should Flynn be left with no recourse we'll have witnessed a travesty of justice.

 

[SpeareChucker]

So much for that smarmy little twit and his "sekret information"
that would show President Trump's guilt beyond a shadow of a doubt.
No Democrat will call for his head because they too were fully vested in a known lie.

He was willing to take one for the team and now the players will lionize him...

It sickens the soul and boggles the mind that the country
is of two such divergent minds.

Well, my guy is bad BUT yours
is infinitesimally worse.

 

[bellisarius]

I'm glad that Powell was so aggressive in the pursuit of justice. Those documents she forced out of the FBI represent a major unraveling of the tapestry that was constructed out of rotten cloth.

It's obvious that Jensen was coordinating with Durham and God only knows what Huber is doing. Everyone seems to have forgotten about Huber. Barr went outside the swamp for his selections and selected prosecutors that shun the press. I think that the shoes are going to start dropping quickly now.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Are you shitting me?
The wagons will be circled around the powerful claim:

Republicans used their power to cover for their criminal activities...

 

[tog18]

I'm glad that Powell was so aggressive in the pursuit of justice. Those documents she forced out of the FBI represent a major unraveling of the tapestry that was constructed out of rotten cloth.

It's obvious that Jensen was coordinating with Durham and God only knows what Huber is doing. Everyone seems to have forgotten about Huber. Barr went outside the swamp for his selections and selected prosecutors that shun the press. I think that the shoes are going to start dropping quickly now.

Barr didnt pick Huber and Huber has done nothing, that has already been established

 

[Conager]

The news on the radio this morning said "Bowing to pressure from Trump, the Department of Justice has filed a motion to dismiss the charges against Michael Flynn, causing the Democrats to decry the politicization of the criminal justice system"

Do these assholes have no shame?

General Michael Flynn has a lawyer. His lawyer drug this information out of the actually politicized DOJ, and for Trump, and the circumstances he was fairly muted about it.

There is no case.

There never was a case.

The FBI made up the case.

A Weissman protege did a Enron on Flynn.

THAT is the story.

 

[Conager]

I'm glad that Powell was so aggressive in the pursuit of justice. Those documents she forced out of the FBI represent a major unraveling of the tapestry that was constructed out of rotten cloth.

It's obvious that Jensen was coordinating with Durham and God only knows what Huber is doing. Everyone seems to have forgotten about Huber. Barr went outside the swamp for his selections and selected prosecutors that shun the press. I think that the shoes are going to start dropping quickly now.

The only reason she even knew what to look for was because of Wiseman previous prosecutorial misconduct. How does that criminal still have a license to practice law, and why is he not serving a lengthy prison sentence. SCOTUS unanimously reversed his malicious Enron prosecution.

 

[SpeareChucker]

See post #91...

 

[Conager]

Are you shitting me?
The wagons will be circled around the powerful claim:

Republicans used their power to cover for their criminal activities...

Yeah just saw that. You nailed it.

All of the usual assholes around here who have been silent about #Bidentoo will be piping up as soon as their feeds tell them what a scandal this is. . .for the Republicans.

This is why we cannot have nice things. The other side is always either psychopathically disingenuous or astonishingly stupid.

 

[SpeareChucker]

They live in a state of fear.
The only entity big enough to fight that fear is government.
This creates a new fear, the fear that the wrong people will gain
control of government and misuse it to fight all of the wrong fears...

 

[icanhelp1]

“The calls [between Flynn and Kislyak] were entirely appropriate on their face”

“The evidence shows his statements were not “material” to any viable counterintelligence investigation—or any investigation for that matter—initiated by the FBI”

“Indeed, the FBI itself had recognized that it lacked sufficient basis to sustain its initial counterintelligence investigation by seeking to close that very investigation without even an interview of Mr. Flynn”

“With its [CI] investigation no longer justifiably predicated, the communications between Flynn and Kislyak—the FBI’s sole basis for resurrecting the investigation on Jan 4—did not warrant either continuing that existing [CI] investigation or opening a new criminal investigation”

“Nor was anything said on the calls themselves to indicate an inappropriate relationship between Mr. Flynn and a foreign power.”

“Indeed, Mr. Flynn’s request that Russia avoid “escalating” tensions in response to U.S. sanctions in an effort to mollify geopolitical tensions was consistent with him advocating for, not against, the interests of the United States.”

“the FBI [7th floor] sidestepped a modest but critical protection that constrains the investigative reach of law enforcement: the predication threshold for investigating American citizens”


Someone has to pay!

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Every word you wrote is right on. Many prior post go even further in the explanation of how the DOJ abused it's power. The left's pointing to a republican DOJ is a mischaracterization of the facts. They seem to forget that Jeff Sessions was shamed by the left loonies in congress with the help of the lame street media into a self imposed recusal leaving Rod Rosenstein, without adult supervision, to formulate a second memorandum of scope for the Mueller investigation expanding it to a no limit or boundaries investigation ( open ended ). Flynn being forced to cop a plea will expose the dirty dealings of DOJ all the way up to Obama.

As far as a FARA VIOLATION this article should help SKY PILOT and other lunes understand what really happened:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-flynn-fiasco-11545182606

Well, that was bizarre. We’re referring to the fiasco Tuesday of what was supposed to be the sentencing of Michael Flynn. The sentencing was postponed until next year, but not before federal Judge Emmet Sullivan damaged his own reputation with an extraordinary public attack on the former national security adviser for a crime he’s not been charged with or admitted to. That charge would be a FARA violation!

 

[bellisarius]

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Every word you wrote is right on. Many prior post go even further in the explanation of how the DOJ abused it's power. The left's pointing to a republican DOJ is a mischaracterization of the facts. They seem to forget that Jeff Sessions was shamed by the left loonies in congress with the help of the lame street media into a self imposed recusal leaving Rod Rosenstein, without adult supervision, to formulate a second memorandum of scope for the Mueller investigation expanding it to a no limit or boundaries investigation ( open ended ). Flynn being forced to cop a plea will expose the dirty dealings of DOJ all the way up to Obama.

As far as a FARA VIOLATION this article should help SKY PILOT and other lunes understand what really happened:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-flynn-fiasco-11545182606

Well, that was bizarre. We’re referring to the fiasco Tuesday of what was supposed to be the sentencing of Michael Flynn. The sentencing was postponed until next year, but not before federal Judge Emmet Sullivan damaged his own reputation with an extraordinary public attack on the former national security adviser for a crime he’s not been charged with or admitted to.

Which makes what Sullivan has to say at the dismissal hearing all the more important. Will he be contrite or avoid addressing that issue altogether?

 

[icanhelp1]

Whether Flynn will have any redress in civil court is going to come down to how Sullivan words his final ruling, and Sullivan does have to make a ruling even concerning the dropping of the case.

Should Flynn be left with no recourse we'll have witnessed a travesty of justice.

I think Trump will use his pardon authority if that becomes the case..