Hydroxychoroquine/Azithromycin/Zinc Sulfate

[Comshaw]

I'm not about to debate with you what is and what is not a reputable new source. Here is the full statement by the colonel.

“As a matter of practice the National Center for Medical Intelligence does not comment publicly on specific intelligence matters. However, in the interest of transparency during this current public health crisis, we can confirm that media reporting about the existence/release of a National Center for Medical Intelligence Coronavirus-related product/assessment in November of 2019 is not correct. No such NCMI product exists.” -Col. R. Shane Day, Spokesman, National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI), a division of the rarely heard from Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)

I'm surprised it was as wordy as it was.

The original story was bullshit and everyone should have known it was bullshit because even a Chinese didn't have that level of certitude in November.

There's nothing wrong with anonymous sources from reporters and outlets that have a track record a being correct on a particular area. You don't know who the guys source is but you know that he's got one.

All too often during the get Trump media blitz you have unnamed sources from reporters who have no previous track record in that field of expertise claiming things that are then refuted. When that same outlet does not publish the denial and did not seek confirmation you really should rethink what you consider a reputable news source.

I'm sorry, but after doing a dozen differently worded searches using half a dozen different search sites, I can not find that quote any where. Would you be so kind as to point me to where you acquired it?

Thanks

Comshaw
'

 

[Conager]

There's always an unnamed "they" who allegedly want the disease to persist, because who the hell knows why. It's the same crowd who believe we discovered a cure for cancer in 1966 but it's been suppressed by the AMA because then none of their people would have jobs anymore.


Treatment for Covid-19, as opposed to prevention in the form of a vaccine, seems to me to be necessary for the resumption of anything like normal life ("treatment" meaning anything that lessens the seriousness of the disease for those who contract it, lessening the likelihood of having to use a ventilator, etc). Doctors all over the world are throwing everything at it, and I guess if you're an optimist you have faith one of them will work eventually.


But I'll wait to see what the doctors have to say, not a politician or sleazebag with something to sell me.

"Doctors" have weighed in.

65% of doctors say it's worth a shot to try it.

 

[Conager]

I'm sorry, but after doing a dozen differently worded searches using half a dozen different search sites, I can not find that quote any where. Would you be so kind as to point me to where you acquired it?

Thanks

Comshaw
'

No.

Call the public information office for the DIA if you doubt it.

Again, the problem is not "reputable" news sites the problem is that Google knows what flavor of bullshit you prefer.

Try a different search engine, if you do not want to go to the source at DIA.mil

 

[Aglaopheme]

Well I tried! I posted the article in full. Surprised I'm not bamhammered already!

It was spelled correctly.



All you did was link to the French study. Thant’s it. That is in no way supported by the publication.

 

[icanhelp1]

Comshaw wanted a cite. I was busy and didn't hit enter for a while.

Pretty busy around here!

 

[Richard_C]

No.

Call the public information office for the DIA if you doubt it.

Again, the problem is not "reputable" news sites the problem is that Google knows what flavor of bullshit you prefer.

Try a different search engine, if you do not want to go to the source at DIA.mil

Truth

 

[HisArpy]

It was spelled correctly.

*whistle*

The proper spelling of Hydroxychloroquine has an "L" in it.

 

[bunny4med]

It all depends on the patients symptoms. With a immune system that is going haywire it is effective, but with a depressed immune system it can be fatal. Not every Covid19 patient is the same.

 

[Aglaopheme]

I'm sorry, but after doing a dozen differently worded searches using half a dozen different search sites, I can not find that quote any where. Would you be so kind as to point me to where you acquired it?

Thanks

Comshaw
'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/defense-november-coronavirus-intelligence-assessment-reports-false

 

[Conager]

Ok, I'll take pity on you:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pentagon-bashes-bombshell-abc-report-135430708.html

https://www.reddit.com/r/DrainTheSwamp/comments/fxz3xh/ncmi_issues_rare_statement_debunking_media/

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/9/pentagon-says-covid-report-cited-abc-doesnt-exist/

https://www.econjobrumors.com/topic/no-such-ncmi-product-exists

Consider why Google might think you are uninterested in those web links as well as dozens of conservative-leaning sites.

My Google works better than your Google because it doesn't know what I think because I read sources that I don't agree with.

Google's ad sense routinely tries to Alyssa donations from me for progressive causes and candidates.

 

[Aglaopheme]

*whistle*

The proper spelling of Hydroxychloroquine has an "L" in it.

That’s funny. I copied it from the op. However, one gets the same results when it’s spelled correctly.

Again, what ican posted was not an article at all.

 

[icanhelp1]

It was spelled correctly.



All you did was link to the French study. Thant’s it. That is in no way supported by the publication.

This was a reference to PW MAR/30/2020 which does reference the French study in a PDF

I posted the entire article my post#82

 

[Aglaopheme]

The National Review, Reddit and whatever this is:



http://forum.literotica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2094053&stc=1&d=1586541780

 

[Aglaopheme]

This was a reference to PW MAR/30/2020 which does reference the French study in a PDF

Okey dokey, what did PW have to say about the study exactly?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

It all depends on the patients symptoms. With a immune system that is going haywire it is effective, but with a depressed immune system it can be fatal. Not every Covid19 patient is the same.

And here in lies the nature of the beast.

The human immune response known as a cytokine storm. As we are learning, this response may be linked to a person genetics, and that person's immune reaction to the virus, but since immune system is so complex, and there are literally thousands of types of cells which may initially be responsible for the storm, it will take a long time to develop a strategy to mute this response.

"The presence of dying cells and a replicating virus spark the immune system to react to the infectious intruder. Immune cells then flood the lungs to repair damaged tissues and wipe out the virus. While the immune response to the virus is generally highly controlled, it can sometimes go berserk and cause its own damage to healthy cells as well as dying ones. A flood of signals from the immune system, called a cytokine storm, can damage the lungs and cause respiratory failure, and can also harm other organs, leading to multiorgan failure."

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-questions-covid19-symptoms-deaths-spread

 

[Conager]

The National Review, Reddit and whatever this is:



http://forum.literotica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2094053&stc=1&d=1586541780

You are unfamiliar with forums, or with the idea of people discussing economics?

 

[HisArpy]

The National Review, Reddit and whatever this is:



http://forum.literotica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2094053&stc=1&d=1586541780

That's a reference to fake news that the National Center for Medical Intelligence (part of the US intelligence community) had issued a report back in November that they sounded alarm bells over CV19. The NCMI has done something that is rare, they issued a statement that any such "report" saying that they did that, is false.

Any media outlet that ran that story either fabricated it or failed to fact check it. You know, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC...

 

[Aglaopheme]

You are unfamiliar with forums, or with the idea of people discussing economics?

Classic case of spreading misinformation. Someone somewhere posts it online in a vague manner, and it bounces around until it’s picked up by the “media”. John Solomon called, he wants his technique back.

This is just as bad as the op’s YouTube post.

 

[Aglaopheme]

That's a reference to fake news that the National Center for Medical Intelligence (part of the US intelligence community) had issued a report back in November that they sounded alarm bells over CV19. The NCMI has done something that is rare, they issued a statement that any such "report" saying that they did that, is false.

Any media outlet that ran that story either fabricated it or failed to fact check it. You know, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC...

So, you’re saying a link to a post on a forum is some sort of proof something happened? Got it.

 

[Conager]

The dumb-fucks are actually proud of the fact that no one that they get their news from conveyed that little tidbit of news to them. Not even to present it, then insist they have valid sources. Just silence.

"Pay no attention to the nan behind the curtain!"

Think about that. They're proud tgat the people that they depend on for "news" would obscure that important statement about a huge new story that you now understand why it' petered out on their favorite news outlets.

They throw that charges against the wall; when it slides down into a greasy pile on the floor they slink away from the story and their loyal readers don't care set either new the newspaper or they newspapers sources lied to them.

This is the same intelligence community that they didn't trust after Iraq, but they have trusted throughout the Trump presidency despite evidence of the intelligence committee has been not just committing malpractice but actually engaging in disinformation against citizens of their own country. They forget that the intelligence community actually trains to disseminate that, and "journalists" and their leftist American consumers do not care that they are being played like a banana republic coup.

 

[Comshaw]

No.

Call the public information office for the DIA if you doubt it.

Again, the problem is not "reputable" news sites the problem is that Google knows what flavor of bullshit you prefer.

Try a different search engine, if you do not want to go to the source at DIA.mil

As you suggested I used a few other search sites. Each and everyone showed nothing for your posted quote. N-O-T-H-I-N-G.

I also took your suggestion and went to DIA.mil and searched, using these parameters:

Search query used:

Col. R. Shane Day, Spokesman, National Center for Medical Intelligence statement on Corona virus

And

Corona Virus statement

And

Corvid-19 Statement

And lastly

Col. R. Shane Day

For each and everyone I got this reply:

Sorry, no results found for (search query). Try entering fewer or broader query terms.


Nothing that you quoted or claimed, zip, zilch, nada.

It could be I'm inept at doing internet searches. It could be you mis-quoted. Or it could be it never existed. since I gave you the benefit of the doubt and tried all your suggestions I'll ask again, where did you acquire the quote? Since you quoted, you claimed it as accurate and factual, it's your responsibility to prove it. You quoted the good Col. (I assume) verbatim so you must have copied and pasted it from some where. If you did point me to it. If you did it from memory it is suspect and can be discounted as fiction, until such time as you provide a link to the actual quote.

The problem isn't Google as you claim, it isn't my insistence that you prove up, it's your refusal to verify what you claim is true. Even a 4th grader knows that doesn't fly.

So prove up, shut up or try to worm your way out of it. Your choice.

Comshaw

 

[Aglaopheme]

The dumb-fucks are actually proud of the fact that no one that they get their news from conveyed that little tidbit of news to them. Not even to present it, then insist they have valid sources. Just silence.

"Pay no attention to the nan behind the curtain!"

Think about that. They're proud tgat the people that they depend on for "news" would obscure that important statement about a huge new story that you now understand why it' petered out on their favorite news outlets.

They throw that charges against the wall; when it slides down into a greasy pile on the floor they slink away from the story and their loyal readers don't care set either new the newspaper or they newspapers sources lied to them.

This is the same intelligence community that they didn't trust after Iraq, but they have trusted throughout the Trump presidency despite evidence of the intelligence committee has been not just committing malpractice but actually engaging in disinformation against citizens of their own country. They forget that the intelligence community actually trains to disseminate that, and "journalists" and their leftist American consumers do not care that they are being played like a banana republic coup.

Their statement is all over the news, actually. That doesn’t make your “sources” any less amusing.

 

[Aglaopheme]

As you suggested I used a few other search sites. Each and everyone showed nothing for your posted quote. N-O-T-H-I-N-G.

I also took your suggestion and went to DIA.mil and searched, using these parameters:

Search query used:

Col. R. Shane Day, Spokesman, National Center for Medical Intelligence statement on Corona virus

And

Corona Virus statement


And

Corvid-19 Statement

And lastly

Col. R. Shane Day

For each and everyone I got this reply:

Sorry, no results found for (search query). Try entering fewer or broader query terms.


Nothing that you quoted or claimed, zip, zilch, nada.

It could be I'm inept at doing internet searches. It could be you mis-quoted. Or it could be it never existed. since I gave you the benefit of the doubt and tried all your suggestions I'll ask again, where did you acquire the quote? Since you quoted, you claimed it as accurate and factual, it's your responsibility to prove it. You quoted the good Col. (I assume) verbatim so you must have copied and pasted it from some where. If you did point me to it. If you did it from memory it is suspect and can be discounted as fiction, until such time as you provide a link to the actual quote.

The problem isn't Google as you claim, it isn't my insistence that you prove up, it's your refusal to verify what you claim is true. Even a 4th grader knows that doesn't fly.

So prove up, shut up or try to worm your way out of it. Your choice.

Comshaw

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/int...isis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273

 

[Conager]

Classic case of spreading misinformation. Someone somewhere posts it online in a vague manner, and it bounces around until it’s picked up by the “media”. John Solomon called, he wants his technique back.

This is just as bad as the op’s YouTube post.

Call up ABC News ask them if they still stand by there story.

Call the DIA, you dumb-fuck.

You believe the unnamed sources are not disinformation but the named source with an actual title next to his name is nothing but a conspiracy theory.

I simply posted the first four google links, you nitwit. Comshaw is so insulated that he got NONE. I got HUNDREDS of returns.

You are incredibly stupid. you know that, right? Like Sgt Sgt Spidey / Phrodeau level stupid?

 

[Dribble]

As you suggested I used a few other search sites. Each and everyone showed nothing for your posted quote. N-O-T-H-I-N-G.

I also took your suggestion and went to DIA.mil and searched, using these parameters:

Search query used:

Col. R. Shane Day, Spokesman, National Center for Medical Intelligence statement on Corona virus

And

Corona Virus statement

And

Corvid-19 Statement

And lastly

Col. R. Shane Day

For each and everyone I got this reply:

Sorry, no results found for (search query). Try entering fewer or broader query terms.


Nothing that you quoted or claimed, zip, zilch, nada.

It could be I'm inept at doing internet searches. It could be you mis-quoted. Or it could be it never existed. since I gave you the benefit of the doubt and tried all your suggestions I'll ask again, where did you acquire the quote? Since you quoted, you claimed it as accurate and factual, it's your responsibility to prove it. You quoted the good Col. (I assume) verbatim so you must have copied and pasted it from some where. If you did point me to it. If you did it from memory it is suspect and can be discounted as fiction, until such time as you provide a link to the actual quote.

The problem isn't Google as you claim, it isn't my insistence that you prove up, it's your refusal to verify what you claim is true. Even a 4th grader knows that doesn't fly.

So prove up, shut up or try to worm your way out of it. Your choice.

Comshaw

He can't prove it. But the Republicans are desperate. Only thing...independents are finally opening their eyes to the false reality they hoped from Trump.